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TNR-e is on the bus!
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Looks fun but couldn't they have updated the original with extra sound banks and these whizzy new effects? Kick in the face for existing users, I say, and makes a generally confusing purchase dilemma for newbies. Poor show.
Yeah looks like an extremely expensive sound pack...
So it does work as a virtual midi sequencer?
I kinda want it because I like TNR-I, but exactly what @synthandson said.
Maybe they got the strange idea that people don't like IAPs...
@PaulB This.
Question: how is this different from ifretless bass -> guitar -> sax being separate apps despite having mostly the same interface / features?
I'm not saying its the same thing - i agree that somehow this feels wrong yet ifretless sax feels right. I'm trying to understand why that is the case. Is it just because we know Hans?
Yeah...this sucks. I finally purchased TNR-i about a month ago after spending months wondering if the price was worth it. Now they throw out a totally separate (and high priced) app that basically includes all the functionality i wanted out of TNR-i. Terrible.
@Rhism: I think the main difference is that iFretless-x is half the price of TNR-x plus any enhancements to one iFretless is made to all variants (I think).
It is two fingers to customers, pure and simple, and doesn't make commercial sense (to me, at least). If they had issued this as an update to the existing app, it would have presumably made that app more attractive to potential buyers and built on goodwill with those who already have it. Better reviews, more advocates, etc.
Now there are two, and one of them offers better features, who is going to opt for the original and how do they arrive at such a decision. Just bizarre.
This is just pure greed. I won't be buying this as it would be like buying the same app twice. Next.
...and we're not talking about their strange strategy of restricting sales to some AppStores only. There's not a single paid app from Yamaha on the Brazilian App Store.
I could never get TNRi, one of the first apps I got interested in when I was just thinking about buying an iPad... Now I'm glad I couldn't, and now I'm absolutely not interested anymore if there's a cool new app from Yamaha or not. They can eventually release a new app I really like and make it available on my App Store, I'm sure I won't even look at it. I'm done with Yamaha.
I looked at the promo video over discchord, and it sounds really cheesy. In class with their Mobile Music Sequencer app. So not missing much here anyway I think. The only thing they could put into tnr-i is those new FXs, and while they're at it make it an IAA node app, not just a host app..
I think the key info I was missing earlier is that TNR-e includes everything from TNR-i i.e. all the features, interface, sounds etc. And then it has a little bit more. Not a lot more, which might warrant a new app (e.g. BM to BM2) but a tiny bit more, which feels totally unfair for $20. Agreed with the sentiment that this doesn't seem to be a smart move on their part.
Usually, the bigger the company/corporation, the worse its marketing...
Many iOS musos would have upgraded to an IAP if it was offered for say £/$ 10? I would have and I think it would have made more financial sense for Yamaha. 100 x 10 as against 10 x 20 for example. I cannot see 100 tnr-i owners spending another £13.99 or $20 on this new app just because it says dub step etc Not to mention all the negativity that will be surrounding this new app from existing tnr-i owners. Bad move. Lessons learned on how not to lose your existing customers.
It's probably futile but I emailed them this morning to state my dissatisfaction with how they handled the TNR-e release. I echoed what others have stated regarding putting those features into TNR-i either as an app update or IAP.
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I actually received a response from Yamaha support. According to them, "We aim to target a different new customer segment by TNR-e."
Riiiiiiiight.
@Simon: I'd argue that $20 is significant for people that just purchased the TNR-i and now see basically the same app w/a few more sounds and features that could have been offered to existing app owners.
It will be interesting to know how many of this new customer segment buy this app. App Store reviews and or ratings could give us a clue. No reviews or ratings on the UK App Store. Usually an app that is going to fly will have had a review by now.
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I agree with @Simon on the fact that since this app has completely different sounds (in a different style from the original), it's intention is to target a different kind of customer. Given that it has roughly the same number of sounds as the original it's price point makes sense - indeed, perhaps they're thinking about releasing a suite of TNR apps targeting different genres, each with ~250 sounds and the same interface and selling for $20. It's exactly the same thing as iFretless Bass vs Sax being two separate apps with the same interface and features, separate sounds and selling for the same price.
That said, the reality might be that Yamaha fails to attract this theoretical "new customer base" in which case this app will fail.
In addition, it's not clear to me whether the "existing customer base" (i.e. TNR-i customers) would find the new sounds attractive or not. If they would find them attractive then Yamaha would do well to offer the TNR-e sounds as an IAP into TNR-i (in addition to having that separate app for the new target audience).
Good points, guys. I think it's lame to have several different apps that are only differentiated by the internal sounds, but that's obviously their choice.
I just think that, like Rhism said, they could offer the sounds of TNR-e to TNR-i users for a discounted rate. That way, TNR-i folks don't feel like they're missing out and people new to Yamaha's apps can just buy the TNR-e.
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