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what sealed the deal for me on the analog vs digital debate...

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  • @vpich not sure about that max cooper ‘no synths’ source, his studio here has a few: https://www.xlr8r.com/features/2017/08/live-essentials-max-cooper/
    Personally I’m in the camp of both digital and analog are great (and complimentary), I love being able to pull my iPad out or open ableton and get into some serious sound design or sequencing, but sitting down with a hardware synth can be a real joy in a different way. I’ve been recently using the Repro (Prophet 1 & 5) VSTs from u-he. I know I’ll never be able to own the original hardware, so learning about these machines and being able to make music with such amazing synths is fantastic.

  • edited February 2018

    An important factor in the analog vs digital comparison, is the da conversion quality. Eg a good digital emulation of an analog filter or envelope easily fades away when run trough low quality convertors. This is a design flaw in a lot of hardware analog emulation synths. The typical quality advantage of purely analog signal paths regarding clearness, dynamics, ‘directness’ of the signal, has to be challenged in the conversion realm. But digital synthesis brought a completely different world soundwise, of which analog emulation is only a small part. In my opinion :smile:

  • @rickwaugh said:
    My only problem with the original posts, is that when I listened to the two artists mentioned in the original, I found them dull. Lack of melody, lack of harmonic structure, dull rhythmically. I'm not an electronic music guy. But I find too much music built on loops to be like that. I keep looking, thinking that with all the amazing tools and sounds available, something will really grab me. So far, I haven't found anything I really want to listen to again. I come from a prog, classical, finger style guitar, instrumental background. I guess I just have different expectations from instrumental music, that don't mesh with what's being produced today.

    absolutely, I hardly buy any current dance music for that reason, mega high polished production minus anything resembling how to keep a track interesting or funky. There is hope though:

  • This is why converted my iPad to analog. Sounds better now since all my apps are analog.

  • @cian said:
    There are some areas where digital still can't emulate analog, but it's a shrinking list.

    And even more where analog can't touch Digital.. swing and roundabouts

  • All the paths lead to analog anyway....but if it works, it works.

  • edited February 2018

    @Artefact2001 said:
    @vpich not sure about that max cooper ‘no synths’ source, his studio here has a few: https://www.xlr8r.com/features/2017/08/live-essentials-max-cooper/
    Personally I’m in the camp of both digital and analog are great (and complimentary), I love being able to pull my iPad out or open ableton and get into some serious sound design or sequencing, but sitting down with a hardware synth can be a real joy in a different way. I’ve been recently using the Repro (Prophet 1 & 5) VSTs from u-he. I know I’ll never be able to own the original hardware, so learning about these machines and being able to make music with such amazing synths is fantastic.

    Hmmmnn that’s weird. Maybe the interview i saw was from before he got the synths. And also he went on about spending all his money on treating the room and that just looks like one box of auralex thrown up in his attic.

  • @lerosa said:

    @rickwaugh said:
    My only problem with the original posts, is that when I listened to the two artists mentioned in the original, I found them dull. Lack of melody, lack of harmonic structure, dull rhythmically. I'm not an electronic music guy. But I find too much music built on loops to be like that. I keep looking, thinking that with all the amazing tools and sounds available, something will really grab me. So far, I haven't found anything I really want to listen to again. I come from a prog, classical, finger style guitar, instrumental background. I guess I just have different expectations from instrumental music, that don't mesh with what's being produced today.

    absolutely, I hardly buy any current dance music for that reason, mega high polished production minus anything resembling how to keep a track interesting or funky. There is hope though:

    Love Nu Era / Marc Mac!!

  • I just ordered the Digitone last week. It's an 8 voice digital synth. A 4-OP FM synth. How can I throw away all that cash when there are great FM synths on the appstore for just a few bux? My last hardware purchase was a Digitakt. That's even worse, it's just a mono sampler with 8 monophonic tracks. Even my iPhone 3GS can do better. Oh and, I'm poor AF (self inflicted damage but still).

    I kinda have three workflows which provides three different experiences and, in turn very different sounds and music.

    •The desktop DAW (a midi keyboard and software instruments)
    •iOS (mobility, touch screens, software instruments + DAWs)
    •Hardware (No DAWs, no controllers, n...I'll come back next year and write something here)


    @brambos said:
    Is there actually an Analog vs. Digital debate outside of the echo chamber of Gearslutz? :D

    There are still daily wars being faught in random Facebook synth groups. Fascinating stuff. I wish I had half the energy some people put into their daily online synth struggles.

  • @ChrisG said:
    I just ordered the Digitone last week. It's an 8 voice digital synth. A 4-OP FM synth. How can I throw away all that cash when there are great FM synths on the appstore for just a few bux? My last hardware purchase was a Digitakt.

    Love elektron. Am interested in the digitone but i have 3 elektron boxes and at most use two together.

  • @vpich said:

    @ChrisG said:
    I just ordered the Digitone last week. It's an 8 voice digital synth. A 4-OP FM synth. How can I throw away all that cash when there are great FM synths on the appstore for just a few bux? My last hardware purchase was a Digitakt.

    Love elektron. Am interested in the digitone but i have 3 elektron boxes and at most use two together.

    I got the Analog Keys as well. I never use anything else when I'm infront of the AK, partially because you can obviously make entire tracks with it, partially because it's such a deep and fun synth to tweak and make new sounds on (often get sidetracked by this), partially because 2 boxes of anything is what I'm able to juggle, comfortably. I'm not a fan of using midi other then for sync, if it's really needed. Anyways I'm hoping the Digitakt and Digitone will be a fun combo.

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