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FL Studio with FL Studio Mobile
So I've got a 16-year-old beatmaker in my house who is really pushing for FL Studio 12. We're a Mac family, and I'd prefer to get him Logic, which would mean I could put it on all the family's laptops. But apparently FL Studio works flawlessly with Bootcamp. It's the preferred DAW among his hip-hop friends.
Does anybody have any experience running FLStudio on a Mac?
Second, does the PC DAW integrate nicely with the iOS app?
Any and all advice welcome.
Thanks.
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They are working on a Mac version.
https://support.image-line.com/knowledgebase/base.php?ans=114
They’ve been working on it for years. I’ve seen people run FL studio on a Mac and it seems to work fine for them.
But I’m not sure how well it works with the iOS app as I have neither FL studio or FL mobile. Here’s a guide on how it works https://www.image-line.com/support/flstudio_mobile_online_manual/html/plugins/FL Studio Mobile_HomePanel.htm?_ga=2.28557180.1755218971.1518634015-2044409916.1516137819#sharingdata
Yeah, wait for the OSX version.
I appreciate that, but you're talking about an ADD 16-year-old who is using the Mac beta, which doesn't allow the savings of projects! There's much nashing of teeth and keening coming from his "studio" when he loses a project.
That is very helpful, thank you.
PC daw version (I’m on Surface Pro 3) integrates beautifully with iOS projects.
As a side benefit, touch capability for FL 12 on the PC touch laptop is very nicely sorted, (but isn’t/won’t be available on Mac - unless Mac goes touch). You don’t have to pop for the Microsoft touch machines, there’s many cheaper ones from other brands (or u can seek out later model SPs, the 3 with i7 is sweet)
I would get the PC version since it is what is available right now, unless waiting around for whenever th OSX version comes out is really an option and that’s what you feel is better in the long run. It could be a long wait though, correct?
But waiting for said 16 yr old might not be an option, and result in much frustration and possibly resentment. I try to be supportive of my kids’ creativity as much as I can, and try to help them get whatever they feel is needed for them to do their thing, but within reason. We don’t have funds for expensive things, and I explain that to them and teach them to use what they have on hand to it’s fullest instead of always looking to buy a convenient solution. So for me personally, it would be to use the Beta and the Mobile versions and wait for the OSX version which would go on everyone’s laptop, like you mentioned.
Maybe ImageLine could switch your license to OSX version when it comes out if you go with the PC version now. It’s worth an ask.
That's an excellent idea. I'll send a note to ImageLine.
And I appreciate the smart words about fostering creativity. It's always been an unspoken rule in my house: You want a book? You want music? Done. Let's go.
The software is a little more expensive than books or CDs, and FL Studio isn't ideally suited to my genre (ex-indie rocker who has a serious day job but wants to make weird ambient musique concrete but also wants you to know he owned the first DJ Shadow singles on vinyl, man!).
But as you say, when someone is motivated, help them get what they need.
This is a possibility:There’s also a mobile version.
http://www.kangaroo.cc/
That's really a great deal. Why, again, am I a "Mac guy"?
I heard FL Studio for Mac would be free for FLS Windows users. Also, all it's major updates are free forever so its price is justified. It should work better on a Mac if they nail it. Install FLS on Windows bootcamp and switch to Mac version when it gets launched. Just reconfirm with Image Line if Mac version is free for Windows version users.
My 2c
Your son will have moved on, and you'll be an octogenarian before a native OSX version comes out. It has been years and years, and I don't see any concrete evidence of an end in sight. I'm a huge ImageLine - FL Studio fan, but I have no confidence level in anything satisfactory coming out for Mac in the timeframe you're probably looking at.
However, that could be changing eventually. At least now I think they have dedicated resources on it. Before it was just a side project really. (Sorry if any of this info is out of date)
As far as BootCamp goes, do you know that what that means is you boot your Mac up with a Windows operating system when you want to run FL Studio? Sure, it will work great - but you'll just be running a PC (on Mac hardware). You'll need to buy a Windows operating system license, BootCamp, and FL Studio. You won't be able to run your Mac OS and applications while booted up under Windows. You'll need to shut down and boot into OSX when you want to go back to Mac Land.
As far as FL Mobile goes, it ain't FL Studio. It's a plugin within FL studio that works exactly like the FL Studio Mobile app, but as a single plugin instrument. It's nothing like Ableton Export where you can transfer work over to a native project. You'll just have a window within FL Studio that runs the FL Mobile app and outputs sound into the desktop version. At this point I don't think it even has multi-channel audio output into the mixer. I think it's still a single stereo out.
All that said, FL Studio is the bomb. I'm certainly not one to try to talk you out of it. I'm just trying to clear up any confusion you might be having between the different versions and how they would interact with your Mac.
FL Studio 12 is a work of art!
Scalable Vectorial Interface up to 8K resolution.
Lifetime FREE updates including major versions!
P.S. I think there has also been some success essentially running FL Studio under Windows emulation within OSX. If you're familiar with WINE on Linux- same idea. An emulator running within OSX attempts to provide Windows functionality sufficient to run the app. This approach can work with limitations and performance hit of the emulation. Lotsa people run FL Studio under WINE on Linux, so maybe good enough. I can't say.
That's different from BootCamp, though. BootCamp just lets you alternate between booting up Windows and OSX (one at a time).
The advantage with bootcamp is that you have 100% resources, memory, etc. available to your apps (as it is 100% Windows environment installed on a separate partition) - as opposed to running Windows inside OSX like using vmWare Fusion all installed on the same partition and running simultaneiously that share resources with Windows and OSX operating system, apps, tasks, etc. If you run memory hungry Windows apps like games, bootcamp is the way to go (if you have a Mac). If you do not want to setup bootcamp, you can buy vmWare Fusion but still need a licensed copy of Windows.
On another note, from my experience, a Mac is ideal for for kids as they tend to download malware, spyware (I've seen a kid completely crash his Windows laptop and made it unusable and beyond repair) and OSX has almost zero issues with malicious software as most of them are targeted for Windows. The kid had no issues with a Mac
This is very helpful @wim and @powerobject. I didn’t realize I have to buy the Microsoft OS. What a hassle. The thing is, Logic is kind of intimidating. And all his soundcloud-producer friends use FLS. Asking him to use Logic would be like trying to point out that New Balance offer better support than vintage Nike Jordans. And they cost a lot less!
VirtualBox is a free alternative to VMware fusion. I haven't tried it on a Mac or with FL Studio, but it does a great job running Virtual Machines under Windows. But yes, still requires purchase of a Windows license.
Not saying I recommend this option at all .... but I have run FL Studio on a $79 Windows tablet. Can't do a whole lot with it though. Still, there's way more power in that little tablet than I had in my first couple of PCs that I ran FL Studio on back in the day.
@ExAsperis99 As you well know I know nothing about most of anything but I have a 15 year old in the house who has access to all sorts of stuff and a father willing to indulge him but it's FL Studio that has taken vast and serious hold. He loves it and makes it fly.
EDM is easy to learn and FL Studio being EDM-centric, facilitates that.
I love EDM
This is just a funny caution (not to mean that you would do it
):
If you use a cracked version of FL Studio and your kid becomes the next Martin Garrix producing a very HIT song down the road, you could get sued for IP infringement: ! @ #$%^&*(
https://www.image-line.com/company/stoppirating.php
I think they don’t like Ableton Link.
So what happened here? End result? Happiness or otherwise? Always interested in how others are getting along with the aliens masquerading as teenagers in the house etc.
Man this is what I have to look forward to ugh (dad of 6 and 2 year old). If not music it’ll be something else
For what it’s worth that native Mac version finally did come out, hell froze over lol. So I guess either way you go / went you’re cool now
Oh, yes!
Literally, the week I looked into this, FL Studio finally introduced a fully Mac-native version. Works like a dream, and the kid is making beats every day. He's got kids traipsing up to his bedroom to record vocals on the beats he makes. (They pay $15 per beat!) It's pretty great to watch, because I can hear him growing. We were in Guitar Center, and he got talking with this guy at the keyboard/midi counter about FL Studio and various plugins. The Guitar Center guy looked at my kid and said, "Wow, I wish I started making beats when I was 16...." I just went to a corner and pretended to be interested in a Volca so no one could see me blush with pride.
Awesome
yeah really hoping my kids get into it at least a little. I mean if not, it's cool. Glad it worked out though!!
FL Studio gets dismissed by the experts, but I think for a certain kind of artist, it has a really fast workflow. The stock sounds are not bad. I think its reputation as second tier comes from the fact that it was much easier to find a cracked copy of FL Studio than ProTools or Cubase etc.
For me, the shocking thing was the price of plugins. The kid is agitating for Omnisphere. Wow, that's expensive.
Good to hear! (Not the cost, the blushing with pride etc...)
I found myself playing with FL (mobile) again a few days ago because I had got swayed by some lovely folks here into getting an Auxy sub again, but then thought hang on, FL will do this but better surely? and, Lo, it does/did for me....and the more I play with it, the more I wonder about that 'second tier' bollocks also...I understand there are some older/previous users who are unhappy with how things have worked out, but if I remove their smears from my consciousness and just play with the damn thing, it is quick and fun and (most importantly) very productive...and I must give @Littlewoodg props for always being an enthusiastic fellow on the FL subject....
@JohnnyGoodyear
Quick, fun and productive, words to live by.