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iOS DAW poll

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  • @Michael something seems to be bugged with the poll in the first post - it's disappeared!

  • Cubasis for me. It began with GarageBand which was great for getting started on iOS - it had been almost 20 years since I last recorded with a Fostex 4 track, Yamaha Qy20, Yamaha r100, various guitars + effects and bass... GB was a revelation! I then got Auria (up to Pro shortly thereafter) and a few of the FabFilter addons - an impressive host of production capabilities but like a few others (from what I’ve read on AB forum) I found it hard to keep creative momentum going given the UI complexity. Also I found the iPad Air (which I was using at the time) a little underpowered for what the software was asking of it. But there is no denying it’s an impressive iDAW and as the iPad gets increasingly powerful - and Wavemachine Labs iteratively refines the interface - it could definitely be something I turn back to (having already made an investment in it). But when I then switched to Cubasis I really got into my stride. Steinberg are smart - they seem to introduce new capabilities only when they feel the iPad has the power to handle it, which is especially sensible when striving for stability. Also the UI is slick and conducive to creativity and of course if they overcrowd it with bells and whistles they risk losing that - so I am happy to live without things like crossfaders and buses (...for now!). The Waves addons and IAPs provide FX that are certainly good enough and with so many amazing AUv3 apps - well simply pick the best, most stable ones and you’re sorted. My 2 cents...

  • @zeroG said:
    … Yamaha Qy20, Yamaha r100 …

    I remember the Yamaha R100. I had three of those. I traded them in for a Yamaha FX500, then got another FX500.
    A few years later I got a QY10, then a few years later, a QY20, and that QY20 (now dead and thoroughly corroded) was responsible for the peakest peak of my song emitting in the late 90s.

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  • I use multitrack daw and also BM2 on the iPhone, but am very excited about BM3 once it becomes universal. I typically use my presonus ar12’s onboard SD recorder to capture the majority of my recordings than bounce them back to IOS and use grand finale. I do use garage band occasionally but mainly for some of the instruments, it doesn’t seem to play well with a lot of apps.

  • @richardyot said:
    @Michael something seems to be bugged with the poll in the first post - it's disappeared!

    Bugger. Looks like the new Vanilla version is a lot more problematic than one might be led to believe! Will try to fix this over the next couple days.

  • @tja said:

    @philowerx said:
    Definitely BeatMaker 2/3. Cubasis is too basic and Auria is too Pro Toolie.

    In what exactly is Cubasis too basic for you?

    There is no way to adjust the IAP Classic Drum Machines Attack and Release times or tune individual drum sounds like you would on the original drum machines they attempt to emulate and equally important for my usage, the sampler is way, way too basic.

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  • +1 for cubasis (90%, 5% BM3, 5% impcPro) but where can I vote?

  • @Satie said:
    +1 for cubasis (90%, 5% BM3, 5% impcPro) but where can I vote?

    The forum update has killed the poll which was in the first post. The gaffer is looking into it.

  • @tja said:

    @philowerx said:

    @tja said:

    @philowerx said:
    Definitely BeatMaker 2/3. Cubasis is too basic and Auria is too Pro Toolie.

    In what exactly is Cubasis too basic for you?

    There is no way to adjust the IAP Classic Drum Machines Attack and Release times or tune individual drum sounds like you would on the original drum machines they attempt to emulate and equally important for my usage, the sampler is way, way too basic.

    Uhm.
    Yes.
    Cubasis is not the world best sampler.
    I would never try to use it as such.

    But samples are nearly of no interest for me.
    I use a DAW for MIDI tracks, IAA and AU synths.
    And i think that few things can beat Cubasis in this.

    Everyone has specific needs. I use BM3 as a linear DAW for MIDI tracks, IAA/AU effects and instruments and as a sampler. Cubasis is fine for the basics if you don't need a good sampler, BM3 is just a much deeper DAW.

  • Yay - the poll is back. Thanks @Michael

  • @richardyot said:
    Yay - the poll is back. Thanks @Michael

    :+1:

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  • @tja said:

    As far as i know, BM3 has nothing in regard to MIDI that Cubasis does not offer.

    Support for Link, AUv3 Midi Plug-Ins, more options for Grid-Lines when editing notes and higher PPQ.

    Hopefully Cubasis catches up soonish, me want my triplet grids and a way to use Bram's awesome Rozeta Suite in Cubasis! :)

  • Imho BM3 is another IOS zero-workflow scorer - I even watched some videos (as I might have missed something essential exploring on my own), but it remained a mess.
    Possibly ok for stitching together ready-made loops, but anything beyond that scope is way too much steps.

  • Cubasis is nice and streamlined, but not enough to where I’m compelled to record tracks in it then go through the export/import rigmarole into Auria. I’ve finally learned that it’s best for me to just stick with Auria. I don’t do a lot of MIDI editing or other finicky stuff, just recording me playing or a Patterning track. I’ve learned to deal with Auria’s clunkiness to make things simpler.

    And yes, it is a real shame those Cubasis classic drum packs don’t allow for tuning. A real shame.

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  • Pulse Per Quarternote. I.e. how many possible places a midi note/cc/etc can be. Cubasis is very low (I believe it’s 48 ppq), so minor shifting of notes to get a certain feel is limited. I believe Auria’s Ppq is 960.

  • I voted for Gadget because it's the best way to get the most out of the Mono/Poly and the ARP ODYSSEi. When I'm in the mood to work with AUs, I go for Cubasis. For the most part, I play it safe with the iPad and rely more on the Mac and Reason. So I keep it simple with the iPad and might end up getting a lot of use out of Groove Rider when I decide to make some time for it.

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