Groove box pro and presets

reasOne

So if you spend the 15$ on groove box pro, do you get any of the presets / sound packs in addition? I would deff like full access to the synth settings so it seems worth it either way, but starting with a preset on these soft instruments is helpful as opposed to creating a patch on hard ware..

AndyPlankton

Pro unlocks the synth parameters....it does not give you any additional soundpacks.

reasOne

@AndyPlankton said:
Pro unlocks the synth parameters....it does not give you any additional soundpacks.

Seems fair.... Thank you brother!

Purpan

As the preset pack IAPs proliferate, it seems fair to ask if Ampify could at least give us a way to mark favourites, as it's getting quite clunky now and awkward to navigate. Of course, user presets are the real answer, but their business model seems to exclude this.

Tarekith

Agreed. I really wish there was a way to view presets for a particular synth from ALL the packs in one view. Jumping around between everything organized as packs is a bit clunky.

Purpan

It's a shame, because Groovebox looks lovely and sounds great (although a bit FX heavy in the presets for my taste, as though they've been assembled by people with a morbid dread of finding themselves in a dry place). On many tracks, for example, I tend to tweak the Moth Flame preset in the Sunset Electronica pack to give quite a nice electric piano. It's a real pain having to do the same tweaks every time. I know I could save a song as a template, but often the decision to add the tweaked preset comes later in the process.
I understand the preset pack business plan, but surely Ampify could find some sort of solution that didn't slowly kill off the ease-of-use by drowning it in presets. They were quite vocal on this forum a while back, but it's all gone quiet.

reasOne

I haven't gone pro yet because I don't know if it lets you record automation, that's really what I'm looking for to create all on iPad, I still export to Ableton to do all that

RUST( i )K

DO NOT GET ME STARTED!

What could be the best performance production app family in recorded history some how squanders the opportunity to sell midi devices by implementing a cc agenda and midi core channel framework.

I love Novation .

I would love to delete all apps except a few and use Blocs GrooveBox Launchpad and my Circuit

BUT NO MIDI MEANS NO CAN DO

We have all been patient with this process.

But the process is starting to feel like the status quo.

If no midi and cc's are coming let me know that I can get back to Gadget where I have control.

THEY HAD OUT LAUNCHKEY APP ONE THE FIRST MIDI MASTERPIECES SYNCING THE KEYBOARD AND 2 APPS INDEPENDENTLY.

Now I can't stop midi notes from triggering things in Groove Box.

Geez

Yes venting.

RUST( i )K

@Purpan said:
It's a shame, because Groovebox looks lovely and sounds great (although a bit FX heavy in the presets for my taste, as though they've been assembled by people with a morbid dread of finding themselves in a dry place). On many tracks, for example, I tend to tweak the Moth Flame preset in the Sunset Electronica pack to give quite a nice electric piano. It's a real pain having to do the same tweaks every time. I know I could save a song as a template, but often the decision to add the tweaked preset comes later in the process.
I understand the preset pack business plan, but surely Ampify could find some sort of solution that didn't slowly kill off the ease-of-use by drowning it in presets. They were quite vocal on this forum a while back, but it's all gone quiet.

Maybe less time doing live "lets show and tell video series about the devices we all own already." and blowing up my inbox

Live Beats and Bytes....blah blah blah

Let me save some presets on Groovebox

Let me import samples into Groovebox

Let me use midi on Blocs as well.

Maybe some people want more than xfer over to Launchpad

Maybe using both all at the same time. Novel idea?

AndyPlankton

@reasOne said:
I haven't gone pro yet because I don't know if it lets you record automation, that's really what I'm looking for to create all on iPad, I still export to Ableton to do all that

No you cannot record automation currently

RUST( i )K

@AndyPlankton said:

@reasOne said:
I haven't gone pro yet because I don't know if it lets you record automation, that's really what I'm looking for to create all on iPad, I still export to Ableton to do all that

No you cannot record automation currently

Smacks head......

AndyPlankton

@RUST( i )K said:

@Purpan said:
It's a shame, because Groovebox looks lovely and sounds great (although a bit FX heavy in the presets for my taste, as though they've been assembled by people with a morbid dread of finding themselves in a dry place). On many tracks, for example, I tend to tweak the Moth Flame preset in the Sunset Electronica pack to give quite a nice electric piano. It's a real pain having to do the same tweaks every time. I know I could save a song as a template, but often the decision to add the tweaked preset comes later in the process.
I understand the preset pack business plan, but surely Ampify could find some sort of solution that didn't slowly kill off the ease-of-use by drowning it in presets. They were quite vocal on this forum a while back, but it's all gone quiet.

Maybe less time doing live "lets show and tell video series about the devices we all own already." and blowing up my inbox

Live Beats and Bytes....blah blah blah

Let me save some presets on Groovebox

Let me import samples into Groovebox

Let me use midi on Blocs as well.

Maybe some people want more than xfer over to Launchpad

Maybe using both all at the same time. Novel idea?

Being able to use Circuit to sequence Groovebox would be good

TozBourne

@RUST( i )K said:
DO NOT GET ME STARTED!

What could be the best performance production app family in recorded history some how squanders the opportunity to sell midi devices by implementing a cc agenda and midi core channel framework.

I love Novation .

I would love to delete all apps except a few and use Blocs GrooveBox Launchpad and my Circuit

BUT NO MIDI MEANS NO CAN DO

We have all been patient with this process.

But the process is starting to feel like the status quo.

If no midi and cc's are coming let me know that I can get back to Gadget where I have control.

THEY HAD OUT LAUNCHKEY APP ONE THE FIRST MIDI MASTERPIECES SYNCING THE KEYBOARD AND 2 APPS INDEPENDENTLY.

Now I can't stop midi notes from triggering things in Groove Box.

Geez

Yes venting.

Venting is okay, especially when I totally agree with said vent! Thanks for this!

RUST( i )K

@AndyPlankton said:

@RUST( i )K said:

@Purpan said:
It's a shame, because Groovebox looks lovely and sounds great (although a bit FX heavy in the presets for my taste, as though they've been assembled by people with a morbid dread of finding themselves in a dry place). On many tracks, for example, I tend to tweak the Moth Flame preset in the Sunset Electronica pack to give quite a nice electric piano. It's a real pain having to do the same tweaks every time. I know I could save a song as a template, but often the decision to add the tweaked preset comes later in the process.
I understand the preset pack business plan, but surely Ampify could find some sort of solution that didn't slowly kill off the ease-of-use by drowning it in presets. They were quite vocal on this forum a while back, but it's all gone quiet.

Maybe less time doing live "lets show and tell video series about the devices we all own already." and blowing up my inbox

Live Beats and Bytes....blah blah blah

Let me save some presets on Groovebox

Let me import samples into Groovebox

Let me use midi on Blocs as well.

Maybe some people want more than xfer over to Launchpad

Maybe using both all at the same time. Novel idea?

Being able to use Circuit to sequence Groovebox would be good

@TozBourne said:

@RUST( i )K said:
DO NOT GET ME STARTED!

What could be the best performance production app family in recorded history some how squanders the opportunity to sell midi devices by implementing a cc agenda and midi core channel framework.

I love Novation .

I would love to delete all apps except a few and use Blocs GrooveBox Launchpad and my Circuit

BUT NO MIDI MEANS NO CAN DO

We have all been patient with this process.

But the process is starting to feel like the status quo.

If no midi and cc's are coming let me know that I can get back to Gadget where I have control.

THEY HAD OUT LAUNCHKEY APP ONE THE FIRST MIDI MASTERPIECES SYNCING THE KEYBOARD AND 2 APPS INDEPENDENTLY.

Now I can't stop midi notes from triggering things in Groove Box.

Geez

Yes venting.

Venting is okay, especially when I totally agree with said vent! Thanks for this!

But do they give a shit.

A wise man said to me........they are the next AUXY

But I said, yeah, but AUXY doesn't sell midi devices........

Saga continues........

RUST( i )K

Would it not be the best day to have an Ampify Novation person come and tell us,

MIDI everywhere on GBOX as of NOW!

YAY YAY YAY.

But that won't happen.

reasOne

Things we need.
Midi
automation recording
Save presets
preset organization
Import samples
An undo button if you delete something on accident (maybe this exists)

JohnnyGoodyear

Yup. Silence has gotten loud.

RUST( i )K

@JohnnyGoodyear said:
Yup. Silence has gotten loud.

Because these are standard features for a product like this.

So, at one point, needs and wants cross the same plane.

Consensus becomes obnoxious to oneself, creating resentments with each keystroke.

Too much?

RUST( i )K

ExAsperis99

You did that in Groovebox?
Not bad.

oat_phipps

Lole no midi still? Im gonna go see if i can still apply for a refund for the synth. Its probably too late though as its been SO LONG. It sucks when obviously capable coders get away with bullcrap like this. It can only be chalked up to laziness.

oat_phipps

Update: nope, way too late. Ridiculous

Tarekith

Yeah, undo would be amazing too.

RUST( i )K

@Tarekith said:
Yeah, undo would be amazing too.

Yeah

That's a little complicated request

Easy there fella'.

kobamoto

RUST( i )K

@kobamoto said:

LOL

db909

There’s no automation, there’s no proper song mode, there’s no user presets, you can only get velocity variation with an external midi controller otherwise you’re looking at gratiuitous piano roll wanking so expression is limited with the app by itself and on top of that, presets are a chore to navigate, there’s no “init” for the synth. What do we really have here? Just an 8 track loop maker for a solid synth engine. Honestly there’s no reason to continue using this app unless you are totally in love with those sounds. But cmon, even Figure has automation and a unique rhythm sequencer thing.

If a groovebox is what you’re after, get Groove Rider if you don’t already have it. And apparently user presets and midi out is on the menu for that.

Oh an I forgot to mention that they charge an arm and a leg in music App terms for the privilege of making some static loops with a pretty good synth

RUST( i )K

@db909 said:
There’s no automation, there’s no proper song mode, there’s no user presets, you can only get velocity variation with an external midi controller otherwise you’re looking at gratiuitous piano roll wanking so expression is limited with the app by itself and on top of that, presets are a chore to navigate, there’s no “init” for the synth. What do we really have here? Just an 8 track loop maker for a solid synth engine. Honestly there’s no reason to continue using this app unless you are totally in love with those sounds. But cmon, even Figure has automation and a unique rhythm sequencer thing.

If a groovebox is what you’re after, get Groove Rider if you don’t already have it. And apparently user presets and midi out is on the menu for that.

Oh an I forgot to mention that they charge an arm and a leg in music App terms for the privilege of making some static loops with a pretty good synth

So you aren't a fan?

LOL

db909

@RUST( i )K I’ll admit am I fan of the synths. But when the sound is the only unique thing and everything else is lacking some basic functionality and also not particularly fun or unique, then it becomes just a constant reminder of “oh shit I forgot I can’t do that in here”

CracklePot

@RUST( i )K Dude, I feel your pain.

RUST( i )K

@db909 said:
@RUST( i )K I’ll admit am I fan of the synths. But when the sound is the only unique thing and everything else is lacking some basic functionality and also not particularly fun or unique, then it becomes just a constant reminder of “oh shit I forgot I can’t do that in here”

I agree

It is frustrating.