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Pay twice for Iphone and Ipad versions?

Hi,

I've purchased Audiobus remote from the Ipad, when I wanted to download it in the iphone...it asks me to pay again? Is it correct? Pay for each version?

thanks!
Kulo.

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  • No app should require that

  • It’s just the App Store being really annoying since its big overhaul. If you go ahead it won’t actually charge you again and tell you you already own the app. Apple should really fix that.

  • edited March 2018

    @Redo1 said:
    No app should require that

    There’s lots of apps that aren’t universal and have separate iphone and iPad versions

    For example
    https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/korg-ielectribe-for-ipad/id363714043?mt=8
    https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/korg-ielectribe-for-iphone/id1006939067?mt=8

    Which have to be paid for separately

    Audiobus Remote isn’t one of them though and should be a free download on 2nd device.

  • edited March 2018

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  • @BiancaNeve said:

    @Redo1 said:
    No app should require that

    There’s lots of apps that aren’t universal and have separate iphone and iPad versions

    For example
    https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/korg-ielectribe-for-ipad/id363714043?mt=8
    https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/korg-ielectribe-for-iphone/id1006939067?mt=8

    Which have to be paid for separately

    Audiobus Remote isn’t one of them though and should be a free download on 2nd device.

    So....remote it isn't of this kind, right?

    thank you for you comments.

  • edited March 2018

    @brambos said:
    It’s just the App Store being really annoying since its big overhaul. If you go ahead it won’t actually charge you again and tell you you already own the app. Apple should really fix that.

    @BiancaNeve said:

    @Redo1 said:
    No app should require that

    There’s lots of apps that aren’t universal and have separate iphone and iPad versions

    For example
    https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/korg-ielectribe-for-ipad/id363714043?mt=8
    https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/korg-ielectribe-for-iphone/id1006939067?mt=8

    Which have to be paid for separately

    Audiobus Remote isn’t one of them though and should be a free download on 2nd device.

    You both are right. I went crazy and pressed purchase again on the iphone :smiley: . The store came up with a message: " You already bought this app. Press accept to download it".

    Thank you all.

  • Or paying for both desktop and mobile versions.

  • @Lady_App_titude said:
    Or paying for both desktop and mobile versions.

    Yeah these developers trying to put food on their table, who the hell do they think they are ?

  • @Samplemunch said:

    @Lady_App_titude said:
    Or paying for both desktop and mobile versions.

    Yeah these developers trying to put food on their table, who the hell do they think they are ?

    I know, right? Next thing you know musicians will be expecting to get paid for their music. What’s the world coming to!

  • Supply and demand
    Music software for sale = Customers buy
    Your music for sale = Nobody buys
    "must be that damn sneaky developers fault charging me twice because they had to do twice as much work"

  • edited March 2018

    @Samplemunch said:

    @Lady_App_titude said:
    Or paying for both desktop and mobile versions.

    Yeah these developers trying to put food on their table, who the hell do they think they are ?

    Seriously tho, my point had nothing to do with anything like that but was simply that in addition to the iPhone/iPad version thing, in the current state of affairs we have other, bigger ironies — like $300 vs $30 for Gadget , and how, with exponentially evolving platforms, companies are starting to develop means of integrating both platforms in ways that could appeal to their dual platform customers.

    For example, KV311 allow you to use the expansion packs from your desktop purchase with your mobile version. Which is very COOL!

    $300 may seem like a lot to pay for Gadget for Mac, compared to mobile, but they include almost all the expansions, which add up to a considerable IAP cost if you were to purchase them separately with iOS Gadget.

    With the iPad rapidly catching up to desktop-level power, (and typically a tenfold difference in software price) no standard solution has emerged. But it will be interesting to see how things develop.

    We now return to your regularly-scheduled non-sequitur, marginally amusing, pseudosocioeconomic Internet sarcasm.

  • I had an experience with this when I was about to download the ElasticFX update to expand it to iPhone. I decided in that moment, that hell they deserve my money again but then I was told that oh its ok you have paid already.

  • edited March 2018

    The only thing I hate about paying for two versions is both versions must be updated separately. For instance, iPad Sunrizer was updated frequently while the iPhone version remained dormant for three years. It’s been updated since, but it’s a major pain to have to update two versions of anything.

  • I guess it's a bit of a debate. They are different and require extra developing time. But in some cases they are identical and.....
    Hmmm I don't know.

  • If you go to purchased apps (hit the little head icon at the top right of the app store then go to purchased), you can bypass all the drama. The apps you've purchased but not installed will show up with a little cloud icon and you only have to click there.

    Just one of many very surprisingly weird user experience design choices at Apple these days.

  • @wim said:
    If you go to purchased apps (hit the little head icon at the top right of the app store then go to purchased), you can bypass all the drama. The apps you've purchased but not installed will show up with a little cloud icon and you only have to click there.

    Just one of many very surprisingly weird user experience design choices at Apple these days.

    But this doesn't account for IAPs, for example Beatonal ask everytime you (re)install and want to upgrade to pay for the update although you have payed for the update. Launchpad does btw the same and is even more confusing while with a fresh install of the iPAd version all IAPs show automatically, with the iPHone version it ask to apy again for the IAPs. Very, very, annoying. If I read @brambos comment this is rather a bug, but the wierd thing is I never have this with IAP purchase of say Gadget, you just tick on restore putchase and it restores them. I somehow have the idea it has also to do with how the app and IAPs were programmed.

  • @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    The only thing I hate about paying for two versions is both versions must be updated separately. For instance, iPad Sunrizer was updated frequently while the iPhone version remained dormant for three years. It’s been updated since, but it’s a major pain to have to update two versions of anything.

    In sunrizer's case though the two apps actually were different. Sunrizer patches often did not work on Sunrizer xs.

    Apps like amplitube for example are separate costs for the same app. Luckily it is an app that sounds good. But now ik allows you to share iap's between the versions, whereas animoog does not, even though there are workarounds that sort of make it possible.

  • @Lady_App_titude said:

    With the iPad rapidly catching up to desktop-level power, (

    Really ?

  • @enc said:

    With the iPad rapidly catching up to desktop-level power, (

    Really ?

    Well, of course, desktop keeps pulling ahead too, so it may always be ahead, but compared to just a few years ago, today’s top of the line iPad (512GB, 4GB RAM, dual core 64 bit cpu, high res display) rivals what was once MacBook-level power.

    Meanwhile, the MacBook itself is starting to slim down to the point where it rivals the form factor of the tablet. So, yes, the distinction between the two platforms is narrowing. It’s just a matter of time. Moore’s law and all that.

  • edited March 2018

    So say what you mean then, iPads catching up with Macbooks that rarely have high end CPU/Mobo/RAM on board.
    Macbooks are the lowest end of the food chain in computing technology on the desktop.

    There really is some nonsense in this thread.
    Busineses should work for free and phone technology has parity with desktops, welcome to cloud 9 !!!

    Reality check time.
    We should support independent developers if we like and use their products, and just because something has the same name and usage, does not mean they waved their wand and a new version for a new platform existed.
    And we certainly do not and will not ever compare to desktop users in terms of technology, enjoy the mobile tech for what it is and dont talk utter nonsense about what it isnt.

  • “Businesses should work for free” is certainly nonsense, but it is nonsense that you introduced to the conversation. I personally never thought of or implied anything of the sort, nor do I recall seeing anyone else suggest anything along those lines.

    The only place where I came into it was to simply point out that there are certain ironies (including sometimes pricing structures) owing to the history of how this technology developed. For example, the reason why the iOS world enjoys software prices that are typically 10 times lower than the same product on the desktop side is because the whole thing evolved out of a PHONE platform. In fact, the iPhone itself evolved from the iPod. And the model before that was the Walkman! So originally, the iPod was just a digital solution for a music player. Then it morphed into a phone, and suddenly there were “apps” and other functions. But the starting price point for apps was FREE-99 cents. So that’s how we got to a point were $30 seems like a lot of money for an iPad app, but a steal compared to a $300 desktop app.

    That’s just the software side of it. Other ironies, and sometimes limitations and frustrations, come with the hardware side of it. For instance, a tablet is basically just a touchscreen computer. So why can’t we simply hook up any hard drive or other USB peripheral and and drag and drop data just like any computer? Again (as we all know) the history. The whole iTunes Store model and the evolution of the 30-pin to Lightning, etc. have imposed bottlenecks that now have become roadblocks. Now that the iPad is poised to become the next generation of recording studio (and a zillion other things not envisioned in its infancy as a Walkman-turned-phone-turned phone-with-bigger-screen-turned…), we have all these crazy messes that need to be sorted out, like we have a separate store for apps and music and other content, and different “norms” that seem to apply to different products.

    It seems inevitable that the Lightning port will be replaced with a USB-C port (hopefully!), and maybe then the iPad will start to become more like a computer than an overblown phone. For the time being, we are in this transitionary phase, where we are still sorting out things like “paying twice for iPad and iPhone” sometimes,and other weirdness.

    I know people like to be right, and even more, they enjoy showing the world how right they are on a public platform. But please, I wish people would prove to themselves how right they are without twisting others views into artificially “wrong” versions of some prefab agenda.

    This is not a battle between the "noble hard working developer" and the "ignorant, ungrateful consumer". Have no idea where that cartoon version of a scenario came from, but I certainly never intended to step into it.

  • @Lady_App_titude said:
    I know people like to be right, and even more, they enjoy showing the world how right they are on a public platform. But please, I wish people would prove to themselves how right they are without twisting others views into artificially “wrong” versions of some prefab agenda.

    This is not a battle between the "noble hard working developer" and the "ignorant, ungrateful consumer". Have no idea where that cartoon version of a scenario came from, but I certainly never intended to step into it.

    It’s because some musicians love behaving like sullen sardonic perpetually petulant depressants to try and white knight on behalf of “bereaved developers” rather than discussing things like rational functioning adults. :lol: Usually you’ll find such trolls and flamewar-provokers around KVR and Gearslutz, and they’re almost always Gen-Xers who denounce all commercial music, even when it’s Sia. It’s as if their grey matter mainframes are a few years short of the rest of us. ;)

    Cheers, and have a fun night.

  • @Lady_App_titude said:
    Or paying for both desktop and mobile versions.

    Implied fully, dont try and back track

  • @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Lady_App_titude said:
    I know people like to be right, and even more, they enjoy showing the world how right they are on a public platform. But please, I wish people would prove to themselves how right they are without twisting others views into artificially “wrong” versions of some prefab agenda.

    This is not a battle between the "noble hard working developer" and the "ignorant, ungrateful consumer". Have no idea where that cartoon version of a scenario came from, but I certainly never intended to step into it.

    It’s because some musicians love behaving like sullen sardonic perpetually petulant depressants to try and white knight on behalf of “bereaved developers” rather than discussing things like rational functioning adults. :lol: Usually you’ll find such trolls and flamewar-provokers around KVR and Gearslutz, and they’re almost always Gen-Xers who denounce all commercial music, even when it’s Sia. It’s as if their grey matter mainframes are a few years short of the rest of us. ;)

    Cheers, and have a fun night.

    If that was pointed at me, either say it direct to me or shut up.

  • It is kind of sad when people seem to feel the need to go on the attack or to belittle others opinions in order to make their point - which often would actually be pretty good points without all the agression. Lack of self worth? Just being brought up in that kind of environment? I dunno.

    I’m thankful that AB forum is mostly free of all that.

  • edited March 2018

    @Samplemunch said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Lady_App_titude said:
    I know people like to be right, and even more, they enjoy showing the world how right they are on a public platform. But please, I wish people would prove to themselves how right they are without twisting others views into artificially “wrong” versions of some prefab agenda.

    This is not a battle between the "noble hard working developer" and the "ignorant, ungrateful consumer". Have no idea where that cartoon version of a scenario came from, but I certainly never intended to step into it.

    It’s because some musicians love behaving like sullen sardonic perpetually petulant depressants to try and white knight on behalf of “bereaved developers” rather than discussing things like rational functioning adults. :lol: Usually you’ll find such trolls and flamewar-provokers around KVR and Gearslutz, and they’re almost always Gen-Xers who denounce all commercial music, even when it’s Sia. It’s as if their grey matter mainframes are a few years short of the rest of us. ;)

    Cheers, and have a fun night.

    If that was pointed at me, either say it direct to me or shut up.

    Right, so I don’t recall addressing you at all, but since you asked so politely and well-mannered... ;) ;) ;)

    I’d like to say that since you seemed to take deep personal insult with the type of sad-sack billy no mates characters I described, you should take some time for self reflection. Seriously, try to step back and reread every last reply you’ve left in this particular thread with an objective lens. Do you see how childish you’re behaving?

    I mean, if I’m not mistaken (although I certainly could be mistaken), you used to go by the handle @5pinlink , right? And as anyone with two eyes and a browser can see, you were banned under that name. :smirk: I see the level of arrogance hasn’t been adjusted at all! I mean it’s hilarious and consistently entertaining, so thank you, but it’s not a good thing if you want to continue flying under the radar over here without some fat know-nothing ignorant yankee like me spilling the beans. ;)

  • @wim said:
    It is kind of sad when people seem to feel the need to go on the attack or to belittle others opinions in order to make their point - which often would actually be pretty good points without all the agression. Lack of self worth? Just being brought up in that kind of environment? I dunno.

    I’m thankful that AB forum is mostly free of all that.

    Me too, but when it does happen, it’s simply time to pull out the popcorn, sit back, and laugh at how entertaining such childish arrogant people can be. :wink:

  • @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @wim said:
    It is kind of sad when people seem to feel the need to go on the attack or to belittle others opinions in order to make their point - which often would actually be pretty good points without all the agression. Lack of self worth? Just being brought up in that kind of environment? I dunno.

    I’m thankful that AB forum is mostly free of all that.

    Me too, but when it does happen, it’s simply time to pull out the popcorn, sit back, and laugh at how entertaining such childish arrogant people can be. :wink:

    Oh the irony hahahaha.

    FYI i'm not 5pinlink, but you think what you like ;)

  • @Samplemunch said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @wim said:
    It is kind of sad when people seem to feel the need to go on the attack or to belittle others opinions in order to make their point - which often would actually be pretty good points without all the agression. Lack of self worth? Just being brought up in that kind of environment? I dunno.

    I’m thankful that AB forum is mostly free of all that.

    Me too, but when it does happen, it’s simply time to pull out the popcorn, sit back, and laugh at how entertaining such childish arrogant people can be. :wink:

    Oh the irony hahahaha.

    FYI i'm not 5pinlink, but you think what you like ;)

    Well regardless, cheers mate. ;)

  • @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Samplemunch said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @wim said:
    It is kind of sad when people seem to feel the need to go on the attack or to belittle others opinions in order to make their point - which often would actually be pretty good points without all the agression. Lack of self worth? Just being brought up in that kind of environment? I dunno.

    I’m thankful that AB forum is mostly free of all that.

    Me too, but when it does happen, it’s simply time to pull out the popcorn, sit back, and laugh at how entertaining such childish arrogant people can be. :wink:

    Oh the irony hahahaha.

    FYI i'm not 5pinlink, but you think what you like ;)

    Well regardless, cheers mate. ;)

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