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They have ports on the rear.
Fair point. Perhaps my suggestions took too much emphasis off the quality of the monitors. Horrible monitors in a well treated room will still be horrible. But at the same time, great monitors in an UNtreated room won’t be great, or as great as they should be. Like driving a Ferrari in rush hour traffic vs. driving it on an open road. The full potential needs to be realized.
@stuck80s I’m unfamiliar with these monitors, but I read the reviews and they seem rather impressive based on that. If they’re comfortably in your budget I’d say go for it!
I suggest buying the monitors first, and the look into how you can improve the sound of the room with the speakers you purchase.
BUT - The bigger the monitors, the more your room problems will start to come into play, and the more treatment your room will need.
(so I would avoid 8 inch drivers unless your room is a large rectangular shape that sounds nice already)
As noted previously, a couple of book shelves filled with books (or anything) will have a great impact on the acoustics of the room. A couch will help too.
Those foam tiles will only affect the very high frequencies - and so would a blanket or rug hanging on the wall, so maybe save some $.
High frequencies are easy and simple to deal with.
The JBL range is great quality for the price you are looking at.
The LSR305's are very good monitors with a surprizing good low end,
with JBL's more than half a century of R&D behind them.
If your room is large, and you like a big low end, then the LSR308's are the go.
https://www.amazon.com/KRK-RP5G3-NA-Generation-Powered-Monitor/dp/B00FX7MMRO/ref=as_sl_pc_qf_sp_asin_til?tag=dimitridealen-20&linkCode=w00&linkId=e9253d6e9fcd5c403d6f180a26321101&creativeASIN=B00FX7MMRO
KRK Rokit 5. Robust, good sound. Ported, but with your budget you won’t find a decent non-ported option, even passive (which would require a preamp anyway, adding to the cost). So I think the Rokit 5 is the one for you, and it’s the one I use at home as well. If the ports bother you, stuff socks in them (it’s what I do as well).
The Focal Alpha 50's are just a bit above your price range - $600 for the pair - and have a really good reputation. The studio I play in has the Solo 6's and they are amazingly detailed.
Do they have to be new?
I got a really nice pair of used Adam A5 for 350.-
I do most of my listening and playing in what the wife and I call our library! Basically it’s our living room, but a lot of the wall surfaces are covered by book shelves. The day bed is literally swamped in throws and cushions.
Strangely my rather cheap and old Fostex powered monitors sound pretty neutral in there. Yeah they are not the best, but when I can be bothered to use them, they do the job well and in an environment that’s OK for a no cost solution.
I’m with what others have said - don’t spend a lot if your rooms sound is not up to the job and work to the size of your room.
I could see having ample bass response in one's monitors could possibly excite some low end problems in unlucky shaped rooms, but removing the bass from the speaker is not a great solution- your mixes will not come out any better, if you simply cannot hear the offending frequency.
One idea in monitoring with small speakers, "near field" monitors, is that, by getting them closer to your ears, and turning down the volume, you excite a bad room's acoustics less, while hearing more of the direct sound. This is valid. The closer the speakers are to your head, vs the walls, will make the sound clearer, in a room with hard surfaces where the sound bouces around and is live. I'd still opt for 8" monitors in a small room though. Even though they look ridiculous on a small desk.
8" isn't big, in the world of speakers- it's medium size. Most full sized home stereos have larger woofers. 8" is just the size where you're able to hear the bass extension. Little speakers can produce "one note bass", this is where the ports in small speakers are tuned to be able to give an impressive little thump when the bass hits, which makes them fine for listening to music, but the "one note bass" is lumpy, so certain bass notes will be louder, and certain ones will disappear, which is bad for mixing. The 8" are a size where the bass response gets smoother, and more accurate.
I had the Alesis Monitor 1’s for years. Supposed knock on them was that the horns would puke out. Held up great for me. I sold them to a friend that still uses them in his studio.
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I'm a Mackie HR824 user and have often considered stepping down in size as I don't often run these very loud but - and this is a huge "but" - if you're doing any kind of bass-focused work it's very hard to economize monitoring and expect to hear frequencies that aren't there.
A huge difference between HR824's (or any comparable monitor like the KRK VXT8) and their younger-brother 6" versions is in the audible sub-range: the approximate lows on both above 8" monitors is 37hz while the step down to 6" takes the bottom up to 49hz. This may not seem like a big deal on paper - and again this point really depends on how important low-end visibility is to you and your music - but as a bass-centric kinda guy knowing exactly what's going on from the ground up is a crucial and so are the monitors that can represent that.
Trying to decide between KRK Rokit 8 or KRK VXT 8 (for twice as much) ... I'm getting serious about music , so my thinking is that it's probably best to spend $900 for the best I can afford, rather than to buy a starter set, only to lose money when I want to upgrade later.
Wish I could find a sale on the KRK Expose line though..$3000 is over the limit, but I'd snatch up em if I could ever find em for half that.
Currently producing with headphones - Senn HD600 and Beyer DT990s.
Adam Audio T5V - $400 US
Adam Audio T7V - $500 US
PreSonus Eris E5 - $300 US
PreSonus Eris E8 - $500 US
I’m very happy with my PreSonus Eris 8 set that I’ve had for a few years now. At $500 a pair that’s same price that I paid, I think it was in 2014.
Well if you going in with the big guns(which is sensible really, especially if your serious into music) maybe look into Focal Studio Moniters(I've got there Focal Sprit Pros which are very good)....... But they are a bit exspensive(like the headphones, but the headphones price were worth it)
Maybe those cheaper monitors of Tannoy are something for you? They have the advantage of having a bass port at the front, so you can more easily use them in smaller rooms. Not that expensive and getting positive reviews here and there.
What’s your guys opinions about a pair of Yamaha MSP5’s for 325?
I originally was looking at 8” speakers, but the room is not very large and I thought a 5” speaker with a front facing bass port might be a better choice...
I found a guy locally who has the speaker pair for 325 which seemed like a great value.
The three choices I’ve narrowed it down to are:
Yamaha msp5’s 325
Monoprice 8” studio monitors 255
JBL lsr308 300
not too bad...
my personal favourite (2nd hand, if you manage to find one) is a pair of K+H O110
https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/kleinhummel-o-110
they've been twice as expensive than the MSP-5 back in those days and are the direct predecessor of the Neumann KH 120
At that price level : Behringer Truth 2031a has to be a contender.
as a pair of great hifi speakers: yes - but not as monitors: everything sounds just nice, it won't reveal the truth of your mixes
I’ve got a pair of JBL Control Ones (or are they 1s?) in the attic. I must get them down one day and actually connect them to something.
They don't sound that 'nice' to me..they can be somewhat harsh ..but I find them quite transparent..
As with any monitors, it depends on the room, their settings and it takes time to learn them and how mixes made with them translate..
That I’ve done, today, and hooked them up to a Lvpin LP2020A+ tripath amp. I’m listening to the album I’m about to release, for some last minute critique (and there’s changes to be made) and it certainly sounds quite different to how I’ve become accustomed to hearing it on my Sennheiser in-ear headphones on the commute in and out and at lunch hour, and on other headphones (my decades-old Sennheiser HD-480 classic) and on my Bose RoomMate speakers. The JBL Control Ones are certainly detailed – bringing out stuff I forgot was in there. They’re not warm, not lovable, not cuddly, but on the other hand, they’re not harsh, not grating, not fatiguing. They’re just accurate and true. I like them.
I didn't read the comments, but I LOVE my JBL LSR308 s. I used to have Adam A7's and these cost about 1/3 as much, sound as good and in some cases better... Best O Luck!!
I’d strongly consider some model of ADAMs. The ribbon tweeters are remarkably warm and revealing in the midrange, which is where the detail really lies and generally very uncolored. Those Monoprice speakers are intriguing, I have to say. You couldn’t pay me enough to use any KRKs, the low end on those is, in my experience, way over hyped. Like the speaker equivalent to Beats headphones.
But really, any speaker will take getting used to to make mixes that translate widely. Personally, I really disagree with the notion that you should use crappy speakers as your main monitors just because most people use crappy speakers. You need to hear the detail as much as possible and get to the point, through practice, to understand how they relate to common listening experiences. For this argument to be true, all crappy speakers would have to be crappy in the same way, which is certainly a fallacy. Over time, you’ll be able to afford a couple of pairs of monitors and switch between them for reference. The room treatment point is very fair but I’m in the camp of get the speakers you want, experiment as much as possible with placement, then treat the room. Speakers and microphones are where compromise hurts the end product the most, in my experience.
Do let us know what you get and how it goes, as this is a valuable thread, for sure.
I very much like my personus Eris e8 monitors. And so did my daughter when she beat the cone like it was the last bongo drum she was ever going to play. The speaker didnt like it that much. Thank goodness for warranties
I kept an eye on the Monkey Bananas, but I have not tested them yet. Maybe an option for you?
https://www.monkey-banana.de/project/turbo-serie/?lang=en
I think the OP began this thread in March. Surely he must have bought speakers by now! I personally love my Mackie MR4s, but I do not do bass heavy music.
Yes I checked, the OP @stuck80s hasn't posted since end of April. We are talking to a ghost! Still, I know there is pleasure in talking about gear. We all like it. At least monitors are something I can understand! @stuck80s at least deign to tell us what you finally bought. Maybe something untoward happened to the poor fellow. Gosh!