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Animals & Synthesis

My wife and I have some SERIOUS issues when it comes to collecting animals 😞

...to be politically correct we “do rescues” 🐱 🐶

Currently our family is at full capacity with 3 beloved pooches & 5.5 cats (one of our cats, Bebop is an amputee and has no tail or back leg, just a little stump)

I am fortunate to have my own room in the house where I can retreat, be creative, and “do music”

I generally do not like my pets to be allowed in the studio...

Ok. That’s not entirely true. I am a big softee. On occasion I let the dogs sit on the love seat and chill (only IF they are on good behavior, no barking or ruckus)

It’s remarkable how perceptive animals are and how much they too enjoy music guys!

Strange how they each prefer different styles too.

Cats and synthesizers is a tricky one...

The cats LOVE weird sounds and particularly songs with arpeggios !?

While the dogs like more acoustic sounds and melodies.

Also worth noting. My dog Cosmo LOVES Christmas music ? True fact.

I’ve actually seen them bop there heads in approval which is interesting.

So my wife would decapitate me if one of her cats (our cats) got electrocuted, so I ONLY let one in at a time. This is for both of our well beings. Safety first!

I generally prefer them to sit in my lap, but as you all know, cats do what they want to do...

Here is a photo of Dax. He is your stereo typical large farm cat, onery by nature but cuddles with the best of them. He has an affinity towards pizza and noodling around on synthesizers


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  • My cat flicks her tail to the beat while laying near the speakers. Kind of like she is conducting. And she does love synths and heavily processed guitars.

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    You guys are lucky. My dog is terrified of the guitar. Acoustic or electric unplugged or plugged, normal size/small scale, it doesn’t matter. I have never been able to get him any more used to it over time, either. I can just say the word ‘guitar’ and he tucks his ears and hurries off to the farthest corner of the house.

    Seriously, you sound like an animal lover...any tips for solving this? My guitar playing has gone down like 80% since I’ve had him.

  • Yes! Try strumming with a fuzzy glove or mitten to mute your playing. It won’t sound as loud, but at least you can still practice.

    Also try leaving an opened up bag of jelly belly jelly beans in a cup close to where you are playing will keep him in the same room! All those different smells are very interesting to dogs.

    Reward him with a scoop of peanut butter if he hangs out 😏

    Oh and don’t play ANY nickelback

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    The guitar solo of this song always drove my dog crazy. Maybe it will work with yours

  • @stuck80s said:
    Yes! Try strumming with a fuzzy glove or mitten to mute your playing. It won’t sound as loud, but at least you can still practice.

    Also try leaving an opened up bag of jelly belly jelly beans in a cup close to where you are playing will keep him in the same room! All those different smells are very interesting to dogs.

    Reward him with a scoop of peanut butter if he hangs out 😏

    Oh and don’t play ANY nickelback

    I’ll have to try the jellybeans thing, he’s already getting enough peanut butter Kong though.

    And sorry to derail the point of the thread for a second, but what do use the GameBoys for?

  • edited March 2018

    I use a music tracker called LSDJ on the gameboys.

  • edited March 2018

    I thought this thread would be about sampling your pets as a sound source.

    I have a huge library of strange soundsthat use a small dog as the source. Having the full eventide plugin suite helps here. Highly recommended :)

    The dog definitely has certain apps that he really does not enjoy!

  • @stuck80s said:
    I use a music tracker called LSDJ on the gameboys.

    the little thing has a really nice synth engine B)
    @oat_phipps same strange experience here with a dog that could be best described as a she-alpha, fearless and dominating, but any silent strum across my Martin caused instant panic in her :o

  • edited March 2018

    My cat is a big synth lover, too. She is not so very much into arpeggios, but always loves Acid and screaming filter drives. Modular stuff, too. The more electronic the music gets, the better for my cat. Bending of notes always rules. One of her favorite synth is the Korg monologue. This one is perfect for her needs.

    Additionally she loves FM (especially the wild tones), prefers real analogue above VA or iOS synths, and yes, sample players usually are a bit boring.

    And, no piano, please!

  • My wife and I found a stray Boston terrier on the street the other day. I was singing in the car, and the little sh!t was singing his heart out along with me! I've always wanted a singing dog, but I already have two labs and don't like small dogs much. He got left at the shelter in spite of his vocalizing talent.

    My own dogs and cats could not care less about my music. But many years ago I had a pair of parakeets that would excited and f*ck during my guitar solos.

  • @Looping_Loddar said:
    My cat is a big synth lover, too. She is not so very much into arpeggios, but always loves Acid and screaming filter drives. Modular stuff, too. The more electronic the music gets, the better for my cat. Bending of notes always rules. One of her favorite synth is the Korg monologue. This one is perfect for her needs.

    Additionally she loves FM (especially the wild tones), prefers real analogue above VA or iOS synths, and yes, sample players usually are a bit boring.

    And, no piano, please!

    Your cat has excellent taste in timbres. B)

  • @stuck80s First of all both you and your wife are top people for helping the animals and secondly, man you have sweeeeet vintage gear there too, lovely

  • @thesoundtestroom said:
    @stuck80s First of all both you and your wife are top people for helping the animals and secondly, man you have sweeeeet vintage gear there too, lovely

    You should read some of his other postings on the forum. Great, interesting variety of topics, and super helpful and knowledgeable insights. So glad to have you on the bus, @stuck80s . B)

  • edited March 2018

    Cats eat too many other animals(fish,birds,mice etc) to be a good companion.
    They should be put down unfortunately. More animals are saved this way.

    controversy

    https://www.google.ca/amp/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.3130437

    http://newsroom.ucla.edu/releases/the-truth-about-cats-and-dogs-environmental-impact

  • @Redo1 said:
    Cats eat too many other animals(fish,birds,mice etc) to be a good companion.
    They should be put down unfortunately. More animals are saved this way.

    controversy

    https://www.google.ca/amp/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.3130437

    http://newsroom.ucla.edu/releases/the-truth-about-cats-and-dogs-environmental-impact

    Ok. But everyone knows the real problem causers are humans. >:)

  • Sure, if you need pest control, apparently chickens can do the job of cats AND they're vegetarian...

    (I love my damn cats!)

  • @oddSTAR said:
    Sure, if you need pest control, apparently chickens can do the job of cats AND they're vegetarian...

    (I love my damn cats!)

    HATE chickens. Had 3 for about a year. They poop, eat, and look unsettling. The eggs aren’t worth the trouble of cleaning the coop.

    I will admit they did learn to be affectionate and liked to be petted, but I couldn’t reciprocate the relationship, so I took em back to my uncle. They’re too creepy.

  • @oat_phipps said:

    @oddSTAR said:
    Sure, if you need pest control, apparently chickens can do the job of cats AND they're vegetarian...

    (I love my damn cats!)

    HATE chickens. Had 3 for about a year. They poop, eat, and look unsettling. The eggs aren’t worth the trouble of cleaning the coop.

    I will admit they did learn to be affectionate and liked to be petted, but I couldn’t reciprocate the relationship, so I took em back to my uncle. They’re too creepy.

    LOL! :D

  • edited March 2018

    Worth checking out...

    For the pussy lovers 🐱

    PurrPedal by Isaac Clarke

    Cat Orchestra: musical singing cats by James Hudson


  • None of my pets have ever seemed particularly responsive to music with the exception of Nick. That cat LOVED jazz. All manifestations...brass, sax, piano, drums, trad, bop, modal, free, small combo, bigger outfits...it didn't matter. As soon as it went on, he would come trotting into the room, and plop down in front of the speakers.
    The only other thing that would bring him running was the guitar playing of Robert Quine. Whether it was with Richard Hell, Lou Reed, solo, Matthew Sweet, or whoever, Nicky somehow always knew it was Quine.
    This is all the honest truth.
    I miss that cat.

  • edited March 2018

    I’ve never thought about it until this thread, but tried to ease my dog into music today. I put the Bluetooth speaker on the floor near us and the first track I played was Let’s Go Crazy (Prince). He loved it! He got all excited and he just plopped down beside the speaker and was wagging his tail in time, double time when the fast guitar solos kicked in.

    I left it at that then experimented again with a few different songs and genres a few minutes ago. He responded poorly to all 4-5 of them (he’s a big scaredy cat), so I put Let’s Go Crazy back on and he was back in the zone lovin it! Can’t wait to experiment more tomorrow to see if he likes anything else. The dog definitely knows his stuff so far though. Only the best for him.

    Thanks for this thread, this is a pretty big breakthrough for my pup because he’s scared of almost anything new and foreign. I’d always just used headphones around him since he was so scared of the guitar.

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    this anthropomorphic reception is generally false. Animals do not really 'like' electronic or acoustically reproduced sounds. They just respont to their environment and act accordingly. Animals do not have this distinction about beautiful or not beautiful we humans have.

    Anthropomorphic means that we humans project our own perceptions and emotions to animals, which have a very different perception and a very different emotional behaviour. There is a place for anthropomorphic projections in fables, fairy tales, etc, which only transfer our perception into the archaic realms, into deep down realms. Fairy tales use archetypal animal characters to portray human characteristicts and qualities.

    Animals do not have the sense we humans have for music and entertainment. Dancing bears do not enjoy the music they dance to, they just follow a training. A rather cruel training I must add.

    Animals are in a very, very different realm of perception. They have no mind as we humans have. They are animals. We humans are not animals, although we have, physically, many things in common. But that doesn't compare to the mind state of animals. It is a huge difference between us and them.

    Projecting human emotion and behaviour to animals is, I must say, very silly. And rather stupid. Think about it.

    I know that I hurt your feelings with this comment. But just let go of those feelings and think about the matter. The difference between animals and humans. Projections, expetations, etc.

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    @Phil999 said:
    this anthropomorphic reception is generally false. Animals do not really 'like' electronic or acoustically reproduced sounds. They just respont to their environment and act accordingly. Animals do not have this distinction about beautiful or not beautiful we humans have.

    Anthropomorphic means that we humans project our own perceptions and emotions to animals, which have a very different perception and a very different emotional behaviour. There is a place for anthropomorphic projections in fables, fairy tales, etc, which only transfer our perception into the archaic realms, into deep down realms. Fairy tales use archetypal animal characters to portray human characteristicts and qualities.

    Animals do not have the sense we humans have for music and entertainment. Dancing bears do not enjoy the music they dance to, they just follow a training. A rather cruel training I must add.

    Animals are in a very, very different realm of perception. They have no mind as we humans have. They are animals. We humans are not animals, although we have, physically, many things in common. But that doesn't compare to the mind state of animals. It is a huge difference between us and them.

    Projecting human emotion and behaviour to animals is, I must say, very silly. And rather stupid. Think about it.

    I know that I hurt your feelings with this comment. But just let go of those feelings and think about the matter. The difference between animals and humans. Just think about it. When you allow yourself to go into it, you realise that it is actually true what you've been reading here.

  • edited March 2018

    @Phil999 said:
    this anthropomorphic reception is generally false. Animals do not really 'like' electronic or acoustically reproduced sounds. They just respont to their environment and act accordingly. Animals do not have this distinction about beautiful or not beautiful we humans have.

    Anthropomorphic means that we humans project our own perceptions and emotions to animals, which have a very different perception and a very different emotional behaviour. There is a place for anthropomorphic projections in fables, fairy tales, etc, which only transfer our perception into the archaic realms, into deep down realms. Fairy tales use archetypal animal characters to portray human characteristicts and qualities.

    Animals do not have the sense we humans have for music and entertainment. Dancing bears do not enjoy the music they dance to, they just follow a training. A rather cruel training I must add.

    Animals are in a very, very different realm of perception. They have no mind as we humans have. They are animals. We humans are not animals, although we have, physically, many things in common. But that doesn't compare to the mind state of animals. It is a huge difference between us and them.

    Projecting human emotion and behaviour to animals is, I must say, very silly. And rather stupid. Think about it.

    I know that I hurt your feelings with this comment. But just let go of those feelings and think about the matter. The difference between animals and humans. Projections, expetations, etc.

    You're projecting your human arrogance onto species that don't use human language. You have no idea what the animals are experiencing or the nature of their reality. Get over yourself.

  • @Phil999 said:
    this anthropomorphic reception is generally false. Animals do not really 'like' electronic or acoustically reproduced sounds. They just respont to their environment and act accordingly. Animals do not have this distinction about beautiful or not beautiful we humans have.

    Anthropomorphic means that we humans project our own perceptions and emotions to animals, which have a very different perception and a very different emotional behaviour. There is a place for anthropomorphic projections in fables, fairy tales, etc, which only transfer our perception into the archaic realms, into deep down realms. Fairy tales use archetypal animal characters to portray human characteristicts and qualities.

    Animals do not have the sense we humans have for music and entertainment. Dancing bears do not enjoy the music they dance to, they just follow a training. A rather cruel training I must add.

    Animals are in a very, very different realm of perception. They have no mind as we humans have. They are animals. We humans are not animals, although we have, physically, many things in common. But that doesn't compare to the mind state of animals. It is a huge difference between us and them.

    Projecting human emotion and behaviour to animals is, I must say, very silly. And rather stupid. Think about it.

    I know that I hurt your feelings with this comment. But just let go of those feelings and think about the matter. The difference between animals and humans. Projections, expetations, etc.

    My feelings aren’t hurt, but I watched my dog react with curiosity and excitement (tail wagging, ears perked up, head tilting at certain frequency notes) to the Prince song. The second time I did it, I played several other songs that he responded to with hostility (ears tucked, barking, ready to pounce on the speaker). When I went back again to Prince, he acted exactly the same as he had earlier.

    Is this far from a legitimate study? Yes, but I’m interested enough in my dog to continue it and see what happens as it’s one of the few new experiences he has responded positively to. That’s the important thing.

    Much of what you said is true. It’s important to recognize that we are different species and to behave accordingly at times, especially early on in training. Luckily, though, dogs do share the same basic emotions with us; it doesn’t matter if their reason for reacting the way they do is processed differently in their brain. It’s fun and comforting to make a connection and share emotions with any species. And also kind of luckily for them, they don’t share more complex emotions like pride and derision, to use two examples of human emotion from your post.

    Long story short, I’m not lookin to talk music theory with my dog. I’m happy I can hang with him and listen to Prince. He makes my dog’s tail wag so he’s doing something right.

  • Oh let’s please don’t allow this otherwise very enjoyable thread to devolve into a debate over animal sentience and anthropomorphism where we use demeaning terms like “silly” or “stupid.”

  • What about an Octave Cat.
    Indeed, i disagree that humans are no animals.
    We are hairless apes. But yeah, animals are mostly better humans :)

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    @raindro said:

    You're projecting your human arrogance onto species that don't use human language. You have no idea what the animals are experiencing or the nature of their reality. Get over yourself.

    +100 - I could not agree more

  • edited March 2018

    @Phil999 said:
    this anthropomorphic reception is generally false. Animals do not really 'like' electronic or acoustically reproduced sounds. (...)
    Anthropomorphic means that we humans project our own perceptions and emotions to animals, (...)
    Animals do not have the sense we humans have for music and entertainment. (...)

    I have a lot of sympathy for your point of view, and usually i tend to think about these issues like you. The only problem is, my cat (and some other animals) just ignores our way of thinking.

    What i say is this: You will make the same observations with my cat. It is possible to create experiments and make precise predictions. There are some tones, and even styles of music, where my cat clearly reacts to. Oh, and it is not depending to the question, if i am in the room or such. She really reacts to some synth tones - not me.

    I cannot say, if my cat "like" some electronic sounds, but i clearly can see, that she comes into my room, sometimes even starts to purr, sit down next to the boxes (and her attention goes into the direction of the boxes which is shown by her ears and cat tail moves). She even protests (!) - and i know my cat good enough to understand when she protests - if i turn out the music or these synth tones.

    All in all, animals and human beeings are quite different, but they do have emotions, they are really able to like things or to dislike them, and on a basic level they sometimes share some basal emotions and even mind processes with us. It is not quite easy to interpret them in a correct way - and usually i am very skeptical here.

    When you are discovering, that some animals do react to music (or sounds or synth tones), one of the most fascinating things is to discover, that a lot of these reactions are individually (!) different from animal to animal, different from cat to cat, from bird to bird and so on.

    Animals can have very astonishing abilities (for example trained dogs can smell if you are in danger because of your diabetes and can appropriately react to this), and all in all, science only knews a small part about this. In the feet of a bug, there are more miracles than the smartest scientist can find out. Therefore, we should be a bit careful in our decision, if animals are completely unable to react to music or to differeciate different styles (or synth tones or such) - or if they have emotional reactions here.

    Oh, and sometimes, seriously, i am planning to write an synth "music" album for cats...

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