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[Solved] iOS Files App without iCloud Drive
I want to be able to take some of my good samples I have built up in Ableton over the years and access them in Cubasis. Sometimes I try to figure this out, and when I do I end up in some stupid iCloud situation. I do not want file transfer processes to be dependent on server storage or even needing Wifi or Bluetooth or any automated syncing. I want to be able to plug my iPad into my MacBook and transfer samples over to my iPad from my MacBook. This should be straightforward and easy. How do I do this?
I bet most people would prefer to skip iCloud and syncing and all of that racket. How do I do a hardline minimal data transfer?
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If you have AudioShare, Documents by Readle or any other app that is Files.app enabled put them files there.
What you need is just one app that shows it's folder in Files.app so the files you dump on your iPad have a place to live in. No need to use 'iCloud'.
I think everything has to go through the iTunes file management if you hook up directly, but would love to be wrong on this. It seems that “wireless” and “cloud” tech was seen as very important with regard to aesthetic design, so they forced that inconvenience on us all, while selling it to us as some new tech that would make things more convenient. It makes everything more complicated, expensive, and slow if you ask me. But my phone sure looks sleek and chic.
Okay so you just helped me address one of those evil workflow hangups that sit around that you don't even want to look at. For anyone else reading this, I plugged my iPad into my may, opened iTunes and selected my iPad --> opened file sharing --> selected Audioshare ---> then went to finder on my mac and dragged the samples into the audio share window that I opened in iTunes. Then I hit sync and moved over to my iPad. I opened up the Audioshare app, then selected the "iTunes File Sharing" folder where I immediately found the files I transferred. I selected the files and chose the paper with the upward arrow button (send) , then selected "save to files." Then I went into the Cubasis folder and dropped in it there. I then went into the "files app" on iPad and reorangized the folder layout to my taste for Cubasis.
*** One drawback to Audioshare is that you can not "select all" and drag files around. So you may want to transfer your samples in folders.***
Another question: I am really not into the domestic sampler in Cubasis. Can you recommend solid alternatives?
There's a solution above but it requires Audioshare, so far as I know.
At least I bypassed #$%ing iCloud!
I use that too, but there are still so many apps that still require iTunes and a computer. Like Apple Music, for instance. It is impossible to load any files into it without a computer and iTunes, and that is the native music player on iOS. Animoog presets and Moodscaper custom instrument samples are a couple more that I hate dealing with.
Really, I just can’t believe Apple didn’t combine iTunes with Files, those stupid, greedy D-bags.
Academically I am an historicist. This means I take Darwin's contribution to sociology to be that most "design" issues are deeply related to the development of phenomena over time. Any atheist (I am agnostic) worth their salt really ought to notice this "design hangover," and drop these expectations for the historicist position. My dad tends to curse the layout of parking lots endlessly. I tend to haze out and not dwell too much, while looking for "workarounds." iOS comes from having a phone operating system, but clearly we are at an intersection with the power of iPad Pro's. I am sure it is just a matter of time until adaptations are made to have iPads run on a serious OS. At the same time, backwards compatibility and multi device integration is probably a nightmare for apple coders -- considering all of these issues we are pretty blessed with our first world problems.
Agreed.
Even though the topic is marked 'solved', the 'free' option here is to use Documents by Readle.
https://readdle.com/documents
It's a very nice file-manager and has options to connect with network-drives, web browser for downloads etc.
(Well worth to have on any iOS device).
As for samplers I'm a 'nerd' so BM3 suits me just fine
(BM3 is also Files.app enabled so it's a good alternate place to store samples too).
Cubasis is Files.app enabled since the latest release it's also possible to store files in there.
(Meaning apps that support Files.app can browse each others files).
I keep my files either in Documents(web downloads etc), AudioShare(legacy import/export) or BM3(where I do most of my sampling of AUv3's and other stuff).
@Samu I was thinking BM3 as well, but was waiting to see what you had for suggestions.
Not a lot of options, it seems.
Yes, Documents app is awesome!!!
I love it too, but was so mad when I saw you could show the Apple Music folder. I thought, finally, I can just drop stuff in there. But, you can only copy out of there, not write to it. So steamed!
Well I am trying to work with Cubasis and be disciplined about dropping cash for another DAW. They really ought to change the name of BM3 -- it makes it sound unfriendly to real instrument audio recording.
I have been skimming this Forum post trying to get up to date: https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/20468/sampler-audio-unit-needed.
iFiles 2, FileBrowser, VLC are a few others
(VLC also is quite handy for previewing obscure file-types or simply as a .mod/.xm etc player).
Many apps have 'silent' Files.app support, ie. the folder pops up in Files.app when it contains files and disappears when there are no files at all.(KQ Dixie for example doesn't pop-up in Files.app if it's Documents folder is empty).
Many 'File Managers' that can be found on the AppStore have been updated for Files.app support.
Same goes for 'Video & Photo Editors'.
One big 'miss conception' here is that Files.app provides a place to store the files when the truth is that Files.app simply 'shows' the folders that have been made browsable with a minor modification to an apps info.plist.
(Apple could if they wanted make all apps documents folders accessible but that would create a chaos if the user has say >1000 apps installed).
Hopefully iOS12 will bring some improvements...