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Ron Block
Richard Thompson
Dan Tyminski
Nic Jones
Top list, but, these – yes. Especially Graham Gouldman.
Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart
Richard Wagner
John Lennon,
Freddie Mercury,
Jim Morrison,
Billy Joel,
Win Butler,
Eithne Pádraigín Ní Bhraonáin (Enya)
Jean Michel Jarre,
Sophie Michalitsianos (Sol Seppy)
Black Francis,
Martin Gore,
Roger Waters,
David Bowie,
Thom Yorke,
Michael Wayne Atha,
Marshall Bruce Mathers III
I know it's the easy cliche answer but Lennon/McCartney and George Harrison have written the songs that effected & inspired me most. First as a second generation fan (born in '75 so my Dad turned me on to a lot of great 60's-70's stuff) and as a musician who could go back & see what they were doing through that lens.
After that Pete Townshend is a very close second (or fourth I guess if we're being technical). Also respect & love Lindsey Buckingham, Sting, John Fogerty, Beck, David Bowie (and Eno because the Berlin Trilogy is brilliant), Stevie Wonder and even though the disco backlash pigeonholed them, the BeeGee's incredible songwriters.
There's a lot of electronica, hiphop (Dr. Dre especially), new & older pop I respect (even Madonna's "Ray of Light" album was great songs), but my favorite songwriters write traditional music/lyrics, verse/chorus songs. Some DJ's and club acts are brilliant but I don't know if what they do is necessarily "songwriting" in the traditional sense.
Chas and Dave played Bangface Weekender 2008!
Fairly recent, then.
One of mine is Betty Thatcher, she wrote for Annie Haslam & Renaissance, Running Hard, Carpet of the Sun, and Trip to the Fair are some of my favs. Peter Gabriel and early Genesis. Jon Anderson from Yes, Run the Jewels, Kendrick Lamar, Hope Sandoval, Ani Difranco, Tori Amos, Dr. Dre, Dan Snaith, Fleet Foxes
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Haven’t seen Nick Cave mentioned in this conversation yet.
Stuck on an island songwriter would have to go to Tom Waits though Leonard Cohen and Sufjan Stevens write music that moves me.
Best new artist for me would be Sorne. Not for everyone I’m guessing but pretty adventurous to be sure. Worth a listen.
Is he actually a songwriter? I don’t think so – I don’t think he can string a song together, but what is is a superb poet and effectively a scriptwriter if he ever diverted his gaze to that direction. He’d make good films. Seriously. Stop making fucking rap songs, and grab a decent camera and put together some rushes for an editor to craft for you.
Andy Partridge
Todd Rundgren
...Aimee Mann
Laurie Anderson
Byrne, Bowie, Eno, N Young, Lennon, Townshend, Robert Smith, L Reed, H Hancock, Manuel Gottsching, Ray Davies)
Heartbreaking talent; don't care where it comes from
Wholeheartedly agree
No one like Franz Schubert. He invented the 3 minute song.
Erlkönig is 1800s Heavy Metal
Kraftwerk devoted a track to him
and of course young Joni Mitchell, she was magical
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Some great ones there. The Chinn and Chapman sound in particular dominated an era in the UK. Also, the Motown trio soundtracked the youth of consecutive generations. George Michael was so classy in his songwriting and had so much more work to do.
But did Michael Jackson actually write anything himself? I’ve read so many stories about him pilfering this or that song element, or adding two words to a song then insisting he got a songwriting credit.
He did write something himself – a big cheque, when Manu Dibango sued him for using the line “ma-mako, ma-ma-sa, mako-mako ssa”, which came from Soul Makossa.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soul_Makossa
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Thieving git.
cool people:
Kurt Cobain (great riffs and great ear for a melody)
Elliott Smith
Sam Beam
decidedly uncool people, and thus sadly underrated:
Neil Diamond
Elton John
The BeeGees
I think Colin Meloy of the Decemberists is a really good writer of both words and melodies, Lee Hazlewood had a few moments of genius, especially his duets with Nancy Sinatra, and I guess Max Martin deserves a mention for writing just about every top ten hit of the last 20 years (only Lennon and McCartney are still ahead of him).
Bob Dylan obviously should get a mention, and Lennon/McCartney + Jagger/Richards, but the crown has to go to Neil Young for actually being the best songwriter ever.
But… Bernie Taupin actually?
Good point - but it's both together. Goodbye Yellow Brick Road and Tiny Dancer have wonderful melodies as well as words. And honestly, watching Elton John write a song on the spot, which is how he always writes, is quite amazing.
Haven't seen Ray Davies mentioned, so I'll stick him in, and while I'm at it add Jim Morrison and Ian Dury.
Andy Plankton
Was just thinking that
Arthur Lee too
Gainsbourg Serge
Ian Dury ++. Can't ever listen to 'My Old Man' without reminding myself how difficult simplicity is (through teary eyes etc).
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Quite right. Reg did the showmanship, and came up with winning tunes. But without Taupin’s poetry what do we get....the Lion King. Oh dear.
I forgot:
Hank Williams
Kris Kristofferson
Jimmy Webb