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Model D iPhone small knobs

Hi,

Model D has killer sound, but looks so small on iPhone. I’ve got a big 7 Plus and I’ve to use iOS zoom if I want to be able to read any knob values.

I’ve contacted Moog about this, they don’t plan any update. I don’t understand why they sell it on iPhone. Ok it’s nice to have it for presets but no other synths is that small and need iOS zoom on my idevice.

Has anybody noticed?

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  • edited April 2018

    I’ve got an iPhone 8 Plus and I have had no complaints about the size of my knob. Above average, I’d say (taking into account foreshortening).

    Mind you, I am wearing reading glasses, which are quite edifying under the circumstances.

  • For me it would be enough with numerical feedback (similar to Model 15) when moving the knobs.

    I'm on an Air 2 and my eye-sight is degrading and things are on the smaller side but I see the panel values as 'cosmetics' and it doesn't affect the way I use it.

    Model D is easy enough to tweak so there's not even a point looking at the 'painted values'.
    I've seen a real Model D where the front panel was almost completely blank due to wear and tear :)

  • @Janosax said:
    Hi,

    Model D has killer sound, but looks so small on iPhone. I’ve got a big 7 Plus and I’ve to use iOS zoom if I want to be able to read any knob values.

    I’ve contacted Moog about this, they don’t plan any update. I don’t understand why they sell it on iPhone. Ok it’s nice to have it for presets but no other synths is that small and need iOS zoom on my idevice.

    Has anybody noticed?

    Sure and i was close to ranting about it. The fonts are unreadable. It helps slightly if you double tab in an empty field on the GUI to hide the "controllers". But still the most tiny GUI ever......so far i try to live with it since i´ve gone deep into it and compared it to some of my desktop synths and i stand to it when i say it is the freaking sounding best synth on iOS for analog flavor with grunt and growl and might be even better than all desktop Minimoog emulations.
    would pay 150 for a plug-in with 8-16 voices :)
    But yeah....the GUI is really bad, sorry.

  • You know you can double-tap to get just the osc/mix/modifier-filter blocks into view up bigger, and eschew the controllers block?

  • edited April 2018

    @u0421793 said:
    You know you can double-tap to get just the osc/mix/modifier-filter blocks into view up bigger, and eschew the controllers block?

    I suggested this but it really is not that much better. I mean it is a multi-touch screen and there would be 100 ways to make it much better for sure for iPhones. It even looks small on a big iPad from what i see.
    They go smaller and smaller while the synths get simpler, lol.
    Animoog has the best GUI, Model 15 is O.K. but not great here and Model D is really one of the worst in terms of GUI and readable fonts. Zooming would be great but maybe it would kill the rest of the cpu this app needs.
    I think it must be the most resource hungry synth which is O.k. since it just sounds superb.
    And why is that not standard to have an option to hide the whole keyboard if i use an external midid input. That would help a lot!!! (and vice versa to have just the keyboard full screen would be handy too)

  • edited April 2018

    @u0421793 said:
    You know you can double-tap to get just the osc/mix/modifier-filter blocks into view up bigger, and eschew the controllers block?

    No I didn’t know that, it’s much better now big thanks for that!!! It’s correct now, even if bigger would be better. I fell in love with its sound too, so dirt and unperfect like analog is!!
    BTW zoom in full screen works really good on iPhone, you can set accessibility parameters to enable/disable zoom with triple home button tap, or even via control center shortcut. Don’t forget to disable it while playing a keyboard. I sometimes use it in AUM with AU or with Gadget. Most of the time I don’t need it.

  • @Janosax said:

    @u0421793 said:
    You know you can double-tap to get just the osc/mix/modifier-filter blocks into view up bigger, and eschew the controllers block?

    No I didn’t know that, it’s much better now big thanks for that!!! It’s correct now, even if bigger would be better. I fell in love with its sound too, so dirt and unperfect like analog is!!

    It´s even funny that you have to tune if you want the OSC in sync. I thought DRC and especially Zeeon are the most dirty growlers but Model D put them to shame (dramatized) if you start to further detune the beating.

  • The small size is why I asked for a refund and deleted it from my iPhoneX, it’s practically unusable for me.

  • Ah, thanks. That schadenfreude makes me feel a lot better for getting an iPhone 8 Plus when I could have spent a small fortune more and got an X. Who needs facial gesture synthesis anyway?

  • @Tarekith said:
    The small size is why I asked for a refund and deleted it from my iPhoneX, it’s practically unusable for me.

    I find the UI fine, even on my standard iPhone 7 (not plus). The knobs are no more difficult to target than those on Zeeon. And, to be honest, I’m so familiar with the iconic Minimoog knob and switch layout I don’t need to read the labels and markers.

  • edited April 2018

    Seems that I’ve found a bug, knobs become frozen impossible to move them after a while in AUM. Have to eject Model D node and reload it. It was in landscape mode on iPhone 7 Plus, around 50 % cpu usage. Anybody has encounter that?

  • I’m on the SE and it’s not great but useable. I prefer iPad now for sure.

  • edited April 2018

    But i can´t get this "brutal" sound out of other iOS synths. No FX used here.
    I made a comparison with my favorite P900 (parts of it are also modeled after a Minimoog) and they can quite sound really the same if i stay in Minimoog territory.
    The Model D might even beat it in overdrive mode for some specific sounds (but not in general) like this:

    Or this:

  • Model D’s front panel is super easy to memorize though. Compared to Model 15, where it’s easy to get lost in your attenuators, the Minimoog is a piece of cake to follow.

    I would love an option to hide the keys, though. My primary use case right now is through IDAM so I’m usually not playing onscreen.

  • edited April 2018

    @Cib said:
    But i can´t get this "brutal" sound out of other iOS synths. No FX used here.
    I made a comparison with my favorite P900 (parts of it are also modeled after a Minimoog) and they can quite sound really the same if i stay in Minimoog territory.
    The Model D might even beat it in overdrive mode for some specific sounds (but not in general) like this:

    Or this:

    It sounds really crazy love this synth too, first iOS synth that leads me to turn knobs for long sound design sessions. And it fits also really well in mixes too, giving great punch and color.

  • @Janosax said:

    @Cib said:
    But i can´t get this "brutal" sound out of other iOS synths. No FX used here.
    I made a comparison with my favorite P900 (parts of it are also modeled after a Minimoog) and they can quite sound really the same if i stay in Minimoog territory.
    The Model D might even beat it in overdrive mode for some specific sounds (but not in general) like this:

    Or this:

    It sounds really crazy love this synth too, first iOS synth that leads me to turn knobs for long sound design sessions. And it fits also really well in mixes too, giving great punch and color.

    Yep, it‘s a new step up in analog sounds in iOS.
    It‘s even better than Monark and i think at least on par with The Legend (beside the FX and preset management are better on most desktop plug-ins).
    It‘s actually the ony iOS synth i really need to record inside Logic. It shines even more with a proper FX channel. Awesome!

  • There are more fiddly synth UIs on iPhone. Some Gadgets are quite awkward to use on my 7 and the knobs in Unique are quite small and close together. Apps like Redshrike and Mersenne by iceGear don’t even bother with value markers; because it’s only important for recalling patches in old analog hardware as they can’t be saved. Model D isn’t any more difficult to use than the majority of iPhone synths, and the sound results are more than worth the effort.

  • @Janosax said:
    Hi,

    Model D has killer sound, but looks so small on iPhone. I’ve got a big 7 Plus and I’ve to use iOS zoom if I want to be able to read any knob values.

    I’ve contacted Moog about this, they don’t plan any update. I don’t understand why they sell it on iPhone. Ok it’s nice to have it for presets but no other synths is that small and need iOS zoom on my idevice.

    Has anybody noticed?

    No complaints here. I’m grateful for the iPhone support!! :smile:

  • @Audiojunkie said:

    @Janosax said:
    Hi,

    Model D has killer sound, but looks so small on iPhone. I’ve got a big 7 Plus and I’ve to use iOS zoom if I want to be able to read any knob values.

    I’ve contacted Moog about this, they don’t plan any update. I don’t understand why they sell it on iPhone. Ok it’s nice to have it for presets but no other synths is that small and need iOS zoom on my idevice.

    Has anybody noticed?

    No complaints here. I’m grateful for the iPhone support!! :smile:

    Me too as I’m currently iPhone only, I use lightning to audio/midi on mac and map the controls to my microkorg for that hands on feel....that said a zoom option would be nice

  • edited April 2018

    @DaveMagoo said:

    @Audiojunkie said:

    @Janosax said:
    Hi,

    Model D has killer sound, but looks so small on iPhone. I’ve got a big 7 Plus and I’ve to use iOS zoom if I want to be able to read any knob values.

    I’ve contacted Moog about this, they don’t plan any update. I don’t understand why they sell it on iPhone. Ok it’s nice to have it for presets but no other synths is that small and need iOS zoom on my idevice.

    Has anybody noticed?

    No complaints here. I’m grateful for the iPhone support!! :smile:

    Me too as I’m currently iPhone only, I use lightning to audio/midi on mac and map the controls to my microkorg for that hands on feel....that said a zoom option would be nice

    I’m with you on that and iPhone only too, but we pay the app like iPad users do and I find sometimes that some devs, as we represent a little percentage of iOS music market, don’t do the effort which go that the fact we’re also customers. Some of us do serious music stuff on iPhone too, it became a musical tool like another. Don’t want to troll here but this shouldn’t be a taboo either. Adapted GUI is the minimum we can ask for IMO.

  • Last year I was trying to use Model 15 on an iPhone SE, which drove me to get the Big Boy.

    In my (limited) experience, there are very few synths don't feel like an annoying compromise on a small screen. I can probably count the ones that I'll still use on my phone on the fat sausage fingers of one hand (iPulsaret, FieldScaper, SunVox, sometimes Gadget).

    This said, Model D has relatively few controls and it is fiddly on a phone. How about an option to scroll along the front panel in portrait mode?

  • @tomato_juice said:

    This said, Model D has relatively few controls and it is fiddly on a phone. How about an option to scroll along the front panel in portrait mode?

    That would be a cool effect even on the iPad! Me like BIG knobs :D

  • @Samu said:

    @tomato_juice said:

    This said, Model D has relatively few controls and it is fiddly on a phone. How about an option to scroll along the front panel in portrait mode?

    That would be a cool effect even on the iPad! Me like BIG knobs :D

    Haha, let's hope Moog are still reading!

  • edited April 2018

    @Samu said:

    @tomato_juice said:

    This said, Model D has relatively few controls and it is fiddly on a phone. How about an option to scroll along the front panel in portrait mode?

    That would be a cool effect even on the iPad! Me like BIG knobs :D

    You can also use iOS zoom with great results, I’ve made this short video to illustrate.

    All you have to do is to activate zoom in full screen mode. Also, activate zoom in accessibility shortcuts, this allow to toggle zoom by a triple home button tap. Always disable zoom after using it because it affects multitouch when you use more than two fingers. I use it sometimes with Gadget too while mixing.

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