Cubasis Minisampler and AKWF

[Deleted User]

Has anyone had any luck getting the single-cycle waveforms from Adventure Kid to work in Minisampler? I’ve tried everything I know to do, but I can’t get a waveform to loop/play properly. No probs with longer samples.

CracklePot

@overorange said:
Has anyone had any luck getting the single-cycle waveforms from Adventure Kid to work in Minisampler? I’ve tried everything I know to do, but I can’t get a waveform to loop/play properly. No probs with longer samples.

Maybe try loop pasting the single cycle in an audio editor to get a longer sample to work with. Cubasis minisampler must have a minimum sample length screwing up your efforts.

[Deleted User]

That crossed my mind, too, but I haven’t given it a shot yet. Will do. Thanks!

Samu

Single-Cycle/Short samples should work anyway.
I'll give it a spin later and see if I can make it work.

Other issues we might bump into with the AWKF samples is that there is no 'fine-tune' in the Cubasis mini-sampler, only the root-key can be set (by dragging the sample to D1 or D2) so if we load those 600 sample long wave-forms they will most likely play out of tune...

Just tested, AKWF's are a no-go with the Cubasis mini-sampler, bummer...
(It's simply un-able to correctly loop a very short sample).

[Deleted User]

Oh well. Thanks for checking it out, Samu.

CracklePot

The sampler in Caustic works really well with AKWF. It’s called the PCM synth. It is on the Caustic forum where I first came across AKWF a few years back.

Samu

@CracklePot said:
The sampler in Caustic works really well with AKWF. It’s called the PCM synth. It is on the Caustic forum where I first came across AKWF a few years back.

They work well with just about any sampler (BM3, BM3, Gadget's Vancouver, Caustic, NanoStudio) but NOT with Mini-Sampler in Cubasis!

@LFS is there a technical limitation as to why the Mini-Sampler in Cubasis can't properly handle short single-cycle samples?

AKWF's waveforms can be downloaded here:
https://www.adventurekid.se/akrt/waveforms/adventure-kid-waveforms/

The samples are 600 samples long (the whole 'cycle' is meant to be looped and root key set to D1+2(cents).
Then again the sampler in Cubasis is pretty limited so maybe a new more advanced sampler is in the works?

CracklePot

@Samu said:

@CracklePot said:
The sampler in Caustic works really well with AKWF. It’s called the PCM synth. It is on the Caustic forum where I first came across AKWF a few years back.

They work well with just about any sampler (BM3, BM3, Gadget's Vancouver, Caustic, NanoStudio) but NOT with Mini-Sampler in Cubasis!

@LFS is there a technical limitation as to why the Mini-Sampler in Cubasis can't properly handle short single-cycle samples?

AKWF's waveforms can be downloaded here:
https://www.adventurekid.se/akrt/waveforms/adventure-kid-waveforms/

The samples are 600 samples long (the whole 'cycle' is meant to be looped and root key set to D1+2(cents).
Then again the sampler in Cubasis is pretty limited so maybe a new more advanced sampler is in the works?

Another reason to make me want Vancouver.

rs2000

It's not only the single-cycle samples, it's the loop and x-fade-loop behaviour of Minisampler and so many other limitations that reduce it to a simple 1-shot sample player. Well, it's better than nothing but BM2 and BM3 have shown how good an iOS sampler can be.
Anyway, there's Scythe (the 3D wavetable candidate) and Nave, but my personal favourite is Stroke Machine. Very fast to use, single cycle waves as oscillator waveforms, FM, RM, many filter types, distortions, bit depth/sample rate reducer, 2-band EQ per synth part and above all, an extensive modulation matrix. Custom waveforms plus 2-OP FM synthesis alone is a powerful source of organic sounds.

CracklePot

Stroke machine you say? Time to get familiar with that one now too.

Samu

@rs2000 said:
but my personal favourite is Stroke Machine. Very fast to use, single cycle waves as oscillator waveforms, FM, RM, many filter types, distortions, bit depth/sample rate reducer, 2-band EQ per synth part and above all, an extensive modulation matrix. Custom waveforms plus 2-OP FM synthesis alone is a powerful source of organic sounds.

+1 The sound-engine in Stroke Machine is mildly put 'inane' in a good way even 1 part as AUV3 would be enough
(The UI how-ever is a pain for my eyes, it's too fiddly. Maybe when 15" iPads come around I'll give it another go).

RUST( i )K

@rs2000 said:
It's not only the single-cycle samples, it's the loop and x-fade-loop behaviour of Minisampler and so many other limitations that reduce it to a simple 1-shot sample player. Well, it's better than nothing but BM2 and BM3 have shown how good an iOS sampler can be.
Anyway, there's Scythe (the 3D wavetable candidate) and Nave, but my personal favourite is Stroke Machine. Very fast to use, single cycle waves as oscillator waveforms, FM, RM, many filter types, distortions, bit depth/sample rate reducer, 2-band EQ per synth part and above all, an extensive modulation matrix. Custom waveforms plus 2-OP FM synthesis alone is a powerful source of organic sounds.

Wolfgang?