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MOOG Model D app vs ARTURIA iMini │ Can you hear it? - haQ attaQ 281
Does the Arturia iMini Minimoog clone sound like Moog Model D? Do you think you can spot the difference in sound? Well, I made my Oscilloscope work hard for this one and so all you have to do now is look, listen and judge. I even threw in Propellerhead Thor into the mix as base of reference sine it's not trying to be a minimoog clone. Get ready for some oscilloscope madness.
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Nice one, thank´s.
Was not so clear at the beginning but when you use the slope and especially resonance there is a clear winner.
In general i wished you have gone more mad with the feedback/saturation and audio rate stuff etc.
Then there is really one who stands out.
The pure waveforms and "save" presets doesn´t really show the beast inside.
I mean many synths can sound close to the same until a certain point and then they really loose out fast.
Going by Jacob's video & the comparisons I did with iMini when I first bought Model D (day one when it was released) I hear the Moog app as more warm & analog-ish while the Arturia app is more "spikey" and bright.
I appreciate the control of the ProppelorHead app thrown in for Jacob's tests. It demonstrates why it isn't so crazy to have 50 iOS synth apps. They ALL sound different even when set to the same settings.
I still dig iMIni, for some things like airy pads & certain stabs it is actually preferable to Model D; but when it comes to stereotypical Moog bass & sounds from that 70's synth mold, this is one instance where the "original" does eclipse the "tribute/emulation".
I say get both but if you have to whittle it down and have just one app, go with the genuine Moog Model D app.
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Magnificent test Jakob. (throwing a 6pack cold Norwegian beer over the border)
I just wondered... wouldn’t “mood” be a good app to put in a test like this. On par with Thor?
They sound like they have different saturation or levels so not easy.
But i wonder why comparisons for a single waveform. Each mediocre synth can sound goo at that today.
The magic happens in the sum of the parts.
F.e. the second one has more low end in the attack and so i would prefer it for that raw sound.
And i wouldn´t wonder if that is not Model D.
It´s also tricky since some synths saturate or slightly distort by default with higher levels and resonance etc.
Try to do some of the sheets from the Moog Minimoog Model D hardware manual pdf.
They all can sound nice to a point but if you go further into filter modulation, OSC FM and so on only the Model D sounds really nice. But Model D is an outstanding app for me in terms of filter design together with the very musical, smooth and snappy envelopes. Like i said i like it more than my favorite desktop Minimoog emulation (The Legend).
And nice high quality saturation at high resonance is not even possible in iMini or Mood for my taste.
Model D is something i get an instant analog/vintage flavor and it really has bite and grown and so on i don´t hear really in any other iOS synth at this quality.
Now if they update it to a Voyager XL
Would be interesting to hear a comparison where the sound starts the same on both synths and is then tweaked equally more until one synth wasnt keeping up anymore, find the breaking points.
But it´s not only that. There is also something if you start to live tweak the filter, envelopes, modulations.
Also here Model D is just smooth and i really can´t be bothered to use the others anymore. Thank you Moog
That's exactly the issue I have with many synth comparison videos. I'm not interested in how two different synths can sound with 100% "equal" knob settings, also the oscilloscope doesn't really help with judging a sound. I usually listen with my ears.
I'm rather interested in what can be done with a synth and what its limits are.
iMini can certainly reproduce 95% of the well-known Minimoog sounds very well, but it's often with different knob positions than the original, sometimes going as far as choosing different octaves for the oscillators.
Model D behaves differently at extreme settings and can do things iMini can't, but it's not as much of a relevation as I thought it would be. Not that Model D is bad, just that iMini is much better than I expected when spending some time comparing both.
I would bow down on a mat 5 times a day towards the Moog headquarters, if I new which way to turn.
Instead I’m spinning with joy, playing The Byrds: turn turn turn
Even a cheap casio can do
Nah... I’m still turning
Many great sounding synths on iOS. I look for charm in the interface, stability and a sense of commitment by the developer.
Yep. Audio rate modulations and saturation/distortion/feedback is where most not so good engines falls apart.
But i remember Arturia updated the engine for their desktop synth. Isn´t that the case for the iOS app yet.
I didn’t understand shit from the video lol
texting of course, I seldom use it because of my visual OCD
Hahaha... must be the weed 😝