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Any Roli Seaboard Block Users Here?

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  • I just missed the ‘free update to full versions of Equaltor and Strobe 2’ sale when I purchased mine. I’ll likely save up my pennies so that if/when the deal rolls around again I’ll pick up a second Seaboard. Having 4 octaves available would be amazing! (Yes, I know what a significant expense this would be... I’m not rich! But the possibilities these instruments present really make it a tool as valuable for creative expression as my beloved Martin guitar).

    But as a word of warning, for most of us, you need to remember owning one of these only provides the possibility of amazing results. These boards (at least in my case) take time to master!

  • @u0421793 said:

    @Zen210507 said:

    What’s it like to be rich. ;)

    Well, you have more money, for a start.

    >

    Starting what?

  • @Zen210507 said:

    @u0421793 said:

    @Zen210507 said:

    What’s it like to be rich. ;)

    Well, you have more money, for a start.

    >

    Starting what?

    I didn’t start the fire.

  • edited April 2018

    @u0421793 said:
    I didn’t start the fire.

    >

    There’s a fire, in the Forum. EVACUATE!

    https://youtu.be/Ie9XSiFJ_e0

  • @eross said:
    used to have one. It was fun, but got tired of their interface. It could be great, but their business model is geared toward selling to apple
    store point of purchase customers, and selling sample packs, and restricts from unlocking the full potential of MPE. i sold it and bought a Sensel Morph. it’s much better. I use it daily, and love it.

    I was planning to get a Seaboard Block someday, but this thread is making me lean towards the Sensel Morph. I don't want to get something that's going to fall apart on me.
    The Sensel Morph is a bit more expensive because you have to buy the sounds from Roli. But for $329 you get a piano overlay, Music production overlay, and drum pad overlay. The piano overlay has controls for octave up and down, program changes, sustain and even transport controls. It's got full MPE.

    I like the idea that I can use it for video editing too. In fact, the sky is the limit with this because they can keep adding more overlays and improving the technology. Still, looking at their forum, there are certain limitations with the tech. There are issues with its application for drawing. But I don't care about that, as I have a wacom tablet.

    @eross What do you see as the downsides to the Sensel Morp vs the Seaboard?

    My main concern is that they won't sell enough to stay in business. Roli really dominates this market.

  • @Reid said:

    @eross said:
    used to have one. It was fun, but got tired of their interface. It could be great, but their business model is geared toward selling to apple
    store point of purchase customers, and selling sample packs, and restricts from unlocking the full potential of MPE. i sold it and bought a Sensel Morph. it’s much better. I use it daily, and love it.

    I was planning to get a Seaboard Block someday, but this thread is making me lean towards the Sensel Morph. I don't want to get something that's going to fall apart on me.
    The Sensel Morph is a bit more expensive because you have to buy the sounds from Roli. But for $329 you get a piano overlay, Music production overlay, and drum pad overlay. The piano overlay has controls for octave up and down, program changes, sustain and even transport controls. It's got full MPE.

    I like the idea that I can use it for video editing too. In fact, the sky is the limit with this because they can keep adding more overlays and improving the technology. Still, looking at their forum, there are certain limitations with the tech. There are issues with its application for drawing. But I don't care about that, as I have a wacom tablet.

    @eross What do you see as the downsides to the Sensel Morp vs the Seaboard?

    My main concern is that they won't sell enough to stay in business. Roli really dominates this market.

    I have sensel morph. I was, like yourself, debating between morph and block. The Morph is highly customizable and could have incredible possibilities. I would think that, out-of-the-box, the block would be more musical and expressive... but the morph can be used for so many different things. I’m probably going to pick up He video editor overlay soon to try that out. I use it for qwerty keyboard too. It’s a cool product. Very portable and small footprint... i still may go for a block at some point.... althugh the Op-z is, finally, on He horizon.
    Good times for us creative folk!

  • @Reid said:

    @eross said:
    used to have one. It was fun, but got tired of their interface. It could be great, but their business model is geared toward selling to apple
    store point of purchase customers, and selling sample packs, and restricts from unlocking the full potential of MPE. i sold it and bought a Sensel Morph. it’s much better. I use it daily, and love it.

    I was planning to get a Seaboard Block someday, but this thread is making me lean towards the Sensel Morph. I don't want to get something that's going to fall apart on me.
    The Sensel Morph is a bit more expensive because you have to buy the sounds from Roli. But for $329 you get a piano overlay, Music production overlay, and drum pad overlay. The piano overlay has controls for octave up and down, program changes, sustain and even transport controls. It's got full MPE.

    I like the idea that I can use it for video editing too. In fact, the sky is the limit with this because they can keep adding more overlays and improving the technology. Still, looking at their forum, there are certain limitations with the tech. There are issues with its application for drawing. But I don't care about that, as I have a wacom tablet.

    @eross What do you see as the downsides to the Sensel Morp vs the Seaboard?

    My main concern is that they won't sell enough to stay in business. Roli really dominates this market.

    So far the only thing i have noticed that are current downsides to the Sensel. There is no IOS configuration app to assign specific information to the keys. but there really isn’t and equivalent with Roli either. i’ve talked to the Sensel people, and they say that is something they are working on for the future. the only other thing i’d like to see is a large version of the pad with more keys.

  • One word. Equator.

    I’m so pleased with the Roli Seaboard Block.

    Wow. Loving the sounds and feel of expression on this thing.

    It’s truly an instrument first and controller second.

  • edited April 2018

    @u0421793 said:

    @Zen210507 said:

    What’s it like to be rich. ;)

    Well, you have more money, for a start.

    But Life is still problematic

  • >

    Oh no, it’s much worse than that.

    Rich Kids

    • Slik

    https://youtu.be/PIfFUDt4Grw

  • @Zen210507 said:

    @Michael_R_Grant said:
    I own 2 of these babies. Having 4 octaves on hand is soooooo good. I love the expressivity of the patches.

    >

    What’s it like to be rich. ;)

    But more seriously, I’d love to try one of these, though at the price I must agree with BiancaNeve. It’s too much for an experiment.

    Don't you mean, 'What it's like to have a credit card?' :D :D :D

  • Interesting thread - I had not seen the Sensel Morph before. It looks very cool. I've been giving some thought to a Lightpad, but if I'm reading this thread correctly, you can't use it as a generic MIDI controller? Is that right? Do you need to go through the iPad app or computer app to control other devices?

  • edited April 2018

    @Kiki_90291 said:
    Interesting thread - I had not seen the Sensel Morph before. It looks very cool. I've been giving some thought to a Lightpad, but if I'm reading this thread correctly, you can't use it as a generic MIDI controller? Is that right? Do you need to go through the iPad app or computer app to control other devices?

    They're pretty configurable via the Blocks Dashboard app. Here are some cool examples:

    https://www.soundtech.co.uk/news/can-a-roli-lightpad-block-control-a-hardware-synth

    http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/index_files/fh-1-roli-blocks.php

    https://ask.audio/articles/how-to-hack-roli-lightpad-block-into-an-8step-midi-sequencer

    and the Seaboard controlling a Moog Mother 32:

  • My favorite expressive rig is finally set up with WeAreROLI and BeatMaker 3. Blocks allows me to Record, Play, cycle thru Banks, Control 16 Macros and play notes all from a highly expressive instrument with a small portable footprint. This is the future people :)

  • And the setup is done
    For now :p

  • And of course...the little experimental result of this setup:

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  • Does the Seaboard Block work without the Noise app? I'd like to use it with apps from other devs, like Moog, PPG, etc.

  • @GovernorSilver said:
    Does the Seaboard Block work without the Noise app? I'd like to use it with apps from other devs, like Moog, PPG, etc.

    Yes, it can act either as a full MPE keyboard for compatible apps (like Model 15 or PPG Infinite), or a general MIDI keyboard for apps that don’t support MPE.

  • @echoopera said:
    And the setup is done
    For now :p

    Wait. You mean to tell me Bm3 has proper Mpe support ? Can you edit the recorded automation properly ?

  • @gonekrazy3000 said:

    @echoopera said:
    And the setup is done
    For now :p

    Wait. You mean to tell me Bm3 has proper Mpe support ? Can you edit the recorded automation properly ?

    Unfortunately no. It just works like a normal midi controller.

  • @echoopera said:

    @gonekrazy3000 said:

    @echoopera said:
    And the setup is done
    For now :p

    Wait. You mean to tell me Bm3 has proper Mpe support ? Can you edit the recorded automation properly ?

    Unfortunately no. It just works like a normal midi controller.

    Exactly. Hopefully it'll get it soon though, so much is already possible with the Roli system in BM3 that MPE would really take it over the top.

    Here's a demo:

  • @Michael_R_Grant said:

    @GovernorSilver said:
    Does the Seaboard Block work without the Noise app? I'd like to use it with apps from other devs, like Moog, PPG, etc.

    Yes, it can act either as a full MPE keyboard for compatible apps (like Model 15 or PPG Infinite), or a general MIDI keyboard for apps that don’t support MPE.

    Thanks! There's also some hardware I'm considering using it with

  • Thanks, just ordered a Lightpad M and Touch Block to go with my Seaboard Block

    I love the Seaboard Block by the way, and Equator is an amazing synth. Haven't dug too deep into the Roli iOS apps but the free SWAM stuff sounds great. It's also been the best-performing Bluetooth keyboard I've used.

  • I was wondering,...(There are some questions littered here)

    I'm sitting with the Seaboard Block and Moog model 15 app, Blip blop and velocity works.
    When you slide the keys vertically you manipulate the lowpass filter (Can I change what the vertical slide changes?),,
    -Can I set it so the lowpass filter does not reset when I press a new key but continues from where I left it when I punch the next?
    -I'm also having difficulty sliding chords because the lowpass filter wants to reset when I press more keys

    Do you know some apps that leaves what you manipulate with vertical slide where it was,
    that it starts from there when you hit the next key?
    Do you know what I mean?

    -Also sensitivity for the vertical slide, can I adjust it?

  • Please help brother @Doug
    I'm having trouble sliding keys, is it not meant to be able to do that with moog model 15? If I hold a chord and slide it down, or use the slider on the top or bottom it's a jitter fest

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