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What Steinberg Says about Vst Wrapper

"Available from the Steinberg website is the new VST 3.6 SDK boasting iOS compatibility with Inter-App Audio support, enhancements to the VST 2 and Audio Unit wrappers, iOS support for the new VSTGUI 4.2 as well as a validation tool for VST 3 host applications.

Newly introduced and based on this new SDK release is Nanologue, a monophonic virtual-analog synthesizer for the iPad and freely available as App Store download on iTunes."

Comments

  • Since I'm pretty ignorant of computer music software stuff... does this mean that we can expect existing desktop VSTs to get ported to iOS sooner/more easily?

    I mean is this just a way for existing VST code to be ported to iOS using IAA as the "chain" method?

  • edited November 2013

    Yes, provided the hardware has the balls to handle it and the VST developers wish to sell at iOS prices with Apple's Ts & Cs.

  • Cool.

    Now what would be REALLY sweet, assuming I'm not being ignorant of something obvious, is to have a single VST host app. That app could load existing or slightly modified existing desktop VSTs. Then it could host them (individually or simultaneously) to other apps via IAA.

    That way each VST creator wouldn't have to go through the Apple Dev signup and app store process (if they didn't want to). You could just load your existing VSTs into the host app on the iPad and use it.

  • edited November 2013

    Here's a little more from steinberg on the new VST SDK:

    The VST 3 SDK provides an easy way to create an iOS InterApp-Audio Application out of your VST 3 Plug-in.

    >

    The SDK comes with an iOS VST 3 host application that can run standalone or as an Inter-App Audio slave. If your plug-in does not use any specific Windows or Mac OS X API's, it should be reasonably easy to get your plug-in running on iOS.

    >

    If you use VSTGUI4 with the VST3Editor class as your UI, you mainly only have to create a new UI description for the different device sizes.

    The SDK docs then go on to list out the steps you have to take in order to get your app to compile in XCODE and my word is it a short list of steps (considering what you might get out of it).

    Should call out this part of the above intro: "If your plug-in does not use any specific Windows or Mac OS X API's". I imagine lots and lots of VSTs out in the world do just that.

  • @jesse_ohio that'll never happen due to apples rules about an app loading compiled software into an app. Would be nice though.

  • Ahhh ok. Still... this sounds like a big step forward!

  • Oh man.. There's a VST for Windows, Ableton, called Nexus 2.. I think I would have a heart attack if this was wrapped for IOS...

  • edited November 2013

    @JangoMango I originally come from the VST world myself, and I can think of A LOT of them that I'd love to have! :-) For starters for me, a Roland classic:

    http://kunz.corrupt.ch/products/tal-u-no-lx

    and another:

    http://kunz.corrupt.ch/products/tal-bassline-101

    :-)

  • I still miss some of these: http://www.smartelectronix.com/

    FXpansion's Geist or the older Guru (or ioplong's original slifty, which was the inspiration for Guru and which was abandoned when FXpansion hired him to make Guru. Still bitter.) would be a welcome additions. Or Sonic Charge's UTonic? Yes, please.

  • I totally understand you @syrupcore! I would still be using VSTs if it weren't for the fact that an iPad makes things so spontaneous and portable and inexpensive (comparatively). I like having my keyboard, instruments and everything available for instant use so that when I have a few minutes to spare and I'm in the mood, I can flip open my tablet's lid and immediately begin. Even with a laptop, you couldn't really play as expressively with regular DAWs without a hardware keyboard of some type. Sure, you can play using the qwerty keyboard built in, but it's not the same. The iPad just offers more in this area. Otherwise I wouldn't be here--I have so much money buried in purchased VSTs that just sit unused. :-)

  • Oh, I'm 100% with you @audiojunkie (though I never sank much money into VSTs). I much prefer the iPad. But! There's been a world of great music app creation going on in VSTland for 15+ years and a streamlined path from Steinberg to get some of that action available on iOS is wonderful news.

  • This is good, as it demonstrates Steinberg's continuing commitment to iOS devices.

    Nice to see it hasn't gone the other way, where Cubasis turned out not to be worth the development resources (i.e. Sound Trends abandonment of their apps and the iOS ecosystem).

  • I become happier and happier that I settled on Cubasis with each announcement and update Steinberg make. When I update iPads I'm sure I will start using Auria as well, but for now Cubasis is making me very happy.

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