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@brambos Speaking of Prologue, I would say Korg are on the right track with the way they implemented the digital part on the Prologue. Being on the right track doesn’t necessarily mean all this will take off, I hope it does though. I got the Prologue 16, it’s an expensive toy, but since I squeezed hundreds upon hundreds of sounds from the oscillator section on the Minilogue, I took the plunge (I’m also eating ice soup and ramen for a few months:-). I do wish they could’ve designed a panel with a couple more knobs and switches for certain things that are in the menus, I know why they didn’t though.
What I’m really trying to say is, get the SDK with the board below, and add some Brambos mojo to this thing:-).
I saw that. And it looks amazing!
sorry, my answer doesn't contribute to the thread, but since you misunderstood:
I was talking about app-internal data management. Afaik you can do whatever you like in your sandbox.
I'll use the IAA fx lists as a very simple example:
an app reads all candidates from IOS, resulting in a list that's put straight on the menu (possibly sorted).
'Data management' means that this list is once (or at intervals) retrieved, but a process or manual choice applies a filter to show only the ones considered useful.
It's done by an additional 'management layer' which connects the second (filtered) list to the original references.
May seem a minor issue, but those lists can become awefully long with more and more apps purchased - and it's only the most simple example.
Timeline based regions are way more complex and challenging.
You can study the look of the process with desktop DAWs, but you'll have to figure out how to manage such data structures yourself.
But as it could be done on a 300MHZ PowerPC, the hardware isn't the limit for sure.
That are literally his words when announcing that vocoder synth.
Behringer seems to do what the big five in the ICT are doing, incorporating start-ups, taking over other companies. If you want handcrafted synths there are little builders around the world (look for example to the CHRT synthesizer: chrtsynth.org/index.html or that granular synth GR-1 : https://tastychips.nl or etc etc).
@brambos ahh nothing like buying a new synth every other year because the controls fall off from moving it around. The Behringer stuff is laughably cheap. The knobs on it jiggle more than a plate full of jello being shaken by a hungry and neurotic squirrel.
Cheap and quality has never been a recipe which has existed.
I think the only good that will come out of this race to the bottom is that the boutique and big boys will start releasing more intelligent gear focused on workflow, and improving musicianship on device...just look at the new Medusa device.
Fwiw, i think there’s more than enough room for all the players. Quality and innovation of gear will be the thing which sustains synth makers.
There has always been cheap crap in every market...and that hasn’t always spelled success.
Ahhh remember PowerComputing and Radius Macs
If someone just makes a dedicated Zeeon controller
The guy has run a company largely based on using other people's designs and undercutting them for decades. The "tech specs" on their products are seemingly always perfect examples of stretching the truth through technical bullet points. The very chips in these products are available from the family of the guy who designed them but Behringer has cloned those too (and is selling them to other manufacturers cheaper then the smaller family owned business can).
The dude is shady. I'm not saying he's the devil or anything but he's shady, obvi. Yet people believe him when he says anything?
And I'm not condemning the purchase of Behringer products but, c'mon folks, know what you're buying.
Next time you’re in a guitar center just have a look and feel at the deepmind. It feels worse than a toy. The play in the knobs and sliders is a joke. The thing feels like it can’t take regular wear and tear.
The products are designed with obsolescence in mind.
I feel sorry for the engineers making these clones because i know their hearts are in the right place.
Cheap materials.
Cheap QA.
Cheap Prices.
Cheap feel.
Cheap experience.
You get what you pay for they always say...just not my money. I’d rather save up a little longer and get higher quality gear than settle for a Behringer clone.
Yep. Very different to low cost, high volume (hopefully) software.
Why would you go into a guitar shop expecting to see a synthesiser? Surely you’d pick a synth shop instead?
It takes one to know one. That small business didn't produce those chips for a long time. They only did so again when Behringer did have success with them when no one saw the worth of them. And now lots of people are crying with the wolves in the forest (Dutch saying
).
Don’t really have a synth shop in my area so the Center it is.
I just bought an x32 rack yesterday and every x32 I've seen works really really well and feels solid. Digital mixers is one area where behringer has been doing well for a long time - a friend who is a very knowledgable live sound engineer swore by their old one (ddx something or other I think), and convinced me to go for the x32 over some other brands I was considering.
I haven't tried any of their syntbs, but was very close to buying a model d last week until I realized it would just be a (very cool) toy for me, I really don't play keys and don't use key bass live anymore. I've barely played with the moog model d app so far, so no matter what the hardware I don't need it. But, I believe that the build quality will be nowhere near moog, even though the clips I've heard sound identical.