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(All the good points were already made, so might as well post the joke response most of us were thinking, lol.)
mastering an album is a considerable job, and the last thing I'd want to do after mastering someones album is go to a movie with them, especially as a payment for my hard work
imho this is how it should go.
Friend A: hey man I wanna hire you to master my album, how much will it cost?
Friend B: sure I'll do it but we're best friends I couldn't charge you for that.
Friend A: I know we're buds that's why I could never let you do all that work for free, I insist I pay you what you're worth, we're friends after all, friends don't devalue one another.
Friend B: okay dude, lets get to work, I'm gonna do a great job for you!
When I have friends ask me for a favor to master their music, usually we just agree to some type of barter system. Maybe they'll help me move some furniture, or one friend is an electrician who helps me with electrical questions, etc.
I also agree that some type of payment or trade is only fair, and helps keep things on track. It's those projects you agree to do for free that go on and on and on that lead to resentment.
I was just going to post the same thing lol
Charge full whack. Do the job professionally, deliver on time. There’s no other way.
A bottle of your favorite liquor.
From my own experiences, I got a half friend rate for my album from my producer/engineer, whose brother was my guitarist, and both of whom were/are two of my 4-5 best friends of all time. I also cut tracks and wrote tunes on a friend rate on several albums that were recorded under a friend rate for another friend. The producer’s effort and thoroughness never suffered. Neither did mine.
However, the producer’s brother (my guitarist) convinced him to mix and master another project we did for free so we could get it out. He did, but it was the worst mixing/mastering job I’d heard from him since he was in his infancy, a total toss-off. He’s charged his own brother for everything else, by the way.
My personal conclusion: money is always thoughtful and usually gets better results out of anyone. You may be a great friend who’s willing to do such a thing for free, and that’s fantastic, but I’d bet most anyone would do a more diligent, professional job with the weight of expectations money brings.
tl;dr Cash is king. And a great motivator to do a better job.
you never know it really depends on the individual job but one thing is for sure, it will take a lot more time than that movie.
my point is that this wonderful friendship that everything is predicated on goes both ways and mastering someones album shouldn't be a lopsided endeavor.
So do it for free, then get them to master your album for free, too.
Maybe experience factors into it? I’d like to get into scoring films, games, etc., but I don’t have a lot on the resume, so to speak. I released an EP of some music a couple years back (martianbuffalo.bandcamp.com if you’re interested), and a friend (not a super close friend but a good friend nonetheless) asked if I’d do the music for her short film (her first).
She even asked about my “rate,” and I figured 1) it’s her first film, very low budget, 2) it’s one of the first scoring jobs I’ve had in years, and I gotta build my portfolio, and 3) she’s a good friend. She’s also not in the position to make a ton of money off the film, so I told her I didn’t expect any payment for it.
It was an incredibly rewarding experience for me and she absolutely loved the score, so later on I asked if I could throw up a bandcamp page as part of an online portfolio for future work (still haven’t gotten around to it, d’oh!) and that I’d provide a cross-promotion link to her film, trailer, etc. She was totally down for it, win/win situation for both of us. Not to mention, now I’ve got an opening to collaborate on future work with her.
If this was her fifth film and subject to wide distribution and I’d done a lot of scoring work before, maybe then I’d negotiate a fair rate, but at the moment I’m comfortable with what we agreed on.
Edit: Dammit! Now what good a friend would I be if didn’t leave a link? Here’s the trailer, featuring my music!
As someone else mentioned i would offer that he buys something needed for the task, a compressor, monitors, etc. something that would legitimately benefit the album.
Have you read Ayn Rand / Atlas Shrugged?
No, but I mastered it.
Boom tsssh.