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Help, which refurbished iPhone best meets my happy price / performance ratio?

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  • edited May 2018

    Thanks CSM, I do have a lot of apps but I do not have a lot of data, unless IAP's count towards data? I don't use any Apple products for large storage of data, I just use my Network Attached Storage.

  • edited May 2018

    @puppychumful said:
    Thanks CSM, I do have a lot of apps but I do not have a lot of data, unless IAP's count towards data? I don't use any Apple products for large storage of data, I just use my Network Attached Storage.

    I don't believe that IAPs do.

    I recently got a new iPad and when I restored it from iCloud and I opened up an app like Korg Module, I had to redownload and restore all of my IAPs in the app.

  • @puppychumful said:
    Are you saying backup my iPad via iTunes on my PC, and then restore from iTunes on my PC to my iPhone?

    Yes thats how I do it. However before installing iTunes on the PC try using the iCloud backup instead and restoring from that, I think theres a good chance it will work. Only your personal data goes in the cloud and the apps don't count so it doesn't fill that fast - the big space users are photos and videos which probably aren't a factor here.

  • edited May 2018

    Help kind posters!

    I backed up my iPad via iTunes on my PC, and then restored from iTunes on my PC to my iPhone but I noticed some problems:

    1) My iPad shows I've got 113.5 GB of 128 GB used, but my iPhone shows only 69.6 of 128 GB used, yet I’ve only got apps on them both and virtually no data stored on either of them. What would account for the huge discrepancy? I have not checked each and every app as that’s too much work but some posters suggested earlier that IAP’s would not follow onto my iPhone. In any case that’s a massive 43.9 GB difference. Are IAP's considered data?

    2) Near the end of the restore process from iTunes on my PC to my iPhone, the iPhone prompted me that there was insufficient storage room for iCloud backup and asked if I wanted to pay .99 / month. That seems odd because my iPad has never prompted me for this, and for that matter I never setup up the iPhone to backup to iCloud, unless it does this automatically without needing to be enabled? Would the iCloud max of 5 GB be for both my iPad and my iPhone as they are both on the same account?

    3) Isn’t there some simple easy way to ensure that everything on my iPad goes to my iPhone? I would have thought that backing up from my iPad to iTunes on my PC and then restoring to my iPhone would have done this but obviously not. I also recall that iTunes prompted me that not everything would restore to my iPhone from the backed up iPad data, but I can’t see why this would be as they both have 128 GB.

    4) The specs are as follows: iPad Air 2 128 and iPhone 6S Plus 128. Are they not compatible enough for a simple backup and restore? Do IAP's get lost somehow and that is the reason for the massive 43.9 GB difference? Is there an easy way to find out what is missing? Should I try the process again? How would iCloud backup and restore solve this problem when I was prompted that it would not be successful with my iPhone and in any case it’s limited to 5GB?

    5) Isn't there some easy simple way to do all this? I thought Apple was the king of ease-of-use and iTunes the holy grail of user-friendliness!

    Much thanks, The Pup

  • First you can check what's taking up space on both devices under settings>general>storage&icloud

    They don't give any more free iCloud with more devices (lame) so you'll have to decide what to back up or get more cloud storage.

    For the IAPs you may need to open the apps and restore IAP, not sure.

    Apple has been slipping in the "it just works" department for a while now.

  • I already answered about the IAPs above.

  • Ah thank CSM, as per the IAP's I overlooked that portion of your text, now it makes sense; and 1nsomniak thanks for the insight that there is no additional free iCloud storage with multiple devices on the same account, that would explain the iPhone prompt warning me that there is insufficient room to backup my iPhone, and I agree it’s BS as per Apple’s claim "it just works" as there should be a simple-easy-fast way to fully mirror the contents.

  • @puppychumful said:
    Ah thank CSM, as per the IAP's I overlooked that portion of your text, now it makes sense; and 1nsomniak thanks for the insight that there is no additional free iCloud storage with multiple devices on the same account, that would explain the iPhone prompt warning me that there is insufficient room to backup my iPhone, and I agree it’s BS as per Apple’s claim "it just works" as there should be a simple-easy-fast way to fully mirror the contents.

    It may have meant that there are iPad only apps that will not be restored to phone, or iPad versions for apps that have 2 separate versions. If you go to the purchased tab though you could download things from there.

  • edited June 2018

    I think you are right because I just noticed that there are a tone (pun) of missing apps on my iPhone such as Auria Pro, Neo-Soul Keys, Orchestra, iMaschine 2, Notion, etc.

    So it seems that it's not IAP's that account for the massive 43.9 GB difference between my iPad Air 2 128 and my iPhone 6S Plus 128 as CrazySynthMan suggested, it's that a bunch of apps that were backed up from my iPad to iTunes on my PC were simply not restored to my iPhone at all. I had my suspicions that the massive 43.9 GB difference could not be accounted for with IAP’s, given how small in size the majority appeared to be, and now I have the proof (sadly as I wish that CrazySynthMan had been correct).

    Now the question remains how many of the apps that did not restore to my iPhone will load directly from iTunes via the purchased tab and it seems that none of them will as they are all iPad only. A bit of a PITA this is turning out to be just to have a more portable equivalent of an iPad, and I guess I should have checked to see how many of my existing apps would function on an iPhone, caveat emptor must have its due I suppose.

    Interestingly Beatmaker3 is iPad only but Beatmaker2 will work on my iPhone!

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