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Rozeta Bassline MIDI out problems
I just sent an email to Ruismaker detailing problems I may be having. Pretty straightforward setup, with Rozeta Bassline in the input slot of AUM Lane 1, and any IAA synth in the Lane 2 input slot. Using AUM Midi Route, I point Bassline out to IAA synth in (I used Laplace in my setup, but other synths didn’t work either). I set Bassline to Auto Play, then pressed play in AUM. I got no audio.
The MIDI channel matches between Bassline and my synth(s).
To further troubleshoot, I opened midiflow and set up a virtual input. Instead of pointing Bassline to a synth, I pointed it to the midiflow virtual in and turned on monitoring in midiflow. When I press play in AUM, no notes appear in the midiflow monitor.
I’m not having problems with Cells or Collider. They send MIDI out just fine.
I’m attempting to use Bassline in a mix for the first time, so maybe I am misunderstanding what to expect from It. I look forward to any comments to set me straight!
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Are there notes programmed into your Bassline (dots with a white circle around them)?
That was the answer! Thanks so much! The Rozeta “Guide” is really sketchy about such details. After reading your comment and I went back to look at that manual and I still can’t see how you program BassLine, only how to include it in an AUM setup. Based on your question I opened BassLine and started the usual battery of things to try. Once I double clicked on the first dot and saw the circle appear around it, everything else fell into place.
It adds another tool to the toolbox. 😁
Now I can play. Lol
Glad I could help. I don't really understand the various dots and circles in that thing myself. I once managed to program a slide between two notes by accident. Let me know if you figure it all out.
The Bassline "piano roll" comes from the Troublemaker app. There's a PDF guide available for it, and there are also some YouTube videos showing Troublemaker in action.
A dot = no note played
Dull circle = note played
Bright circle = accented note
A line from a circle to another note is a tie, or slide
Thanks. How do you get it to make a tie or slide?
Just tap in the space after the dot, to insert a slide
Press in between circles.
Muchas gracias!
Having spent 20 minutes recently to watch a YouTube video about Rozeta just to find a simple detail that answered my question that could have been found in a thorough manual in about 20 Seconds, I’m pretty um unenthusiastic about video tuts. At some point video tut makers might be kind enough to include an index of time points and what they contain. Until then, except as a last resort, video tutorials waste a lot of time.
Here’s what the Rozeta guide says about setting up BassLine:
“Go into Rozeta BassLine and add some notes.” That’s it. Nothing about HOW to add notes. I don’t own Troublemaker. So I should read about THAT app to learn about Rozeta BassLine?
This thread has already provided more information. Why not put it in the Rozeta Guide?
Just sayin’...
You don't have to own Troublemaker to read or download the user guide. It's a fairly short explanation to understand how the sequencer works. It's unfortunate the Rozeta guide doesn't point that out for those who don't own other Bram Bos apps.
As far as expecting manuals and videos --- welcome to iOS. There's a reason you're paying so relatively little for apps that are often quite sophisticated. In many cases, developers are just a one-person operation, and they have limited time to write elaborate manuals. Creating videos is a huge amount of work and expense, especially if it has to be tightly edited so as not to "waste" anyone's time. The Rozeta Suite is 10 bucks, and Bram Bos is probably busy working on his next great project.
It's really up to the customer in many cases to be educated. There's lots of free advice available here. YouTube videos are also free, so if someone's time is wasted, sympathy for them is going to be limited.
A. Not asking for sympathy.
B. Absolutely docs & videos take time.
C. Rozeta was $10. Inexpensive for what you get? ABSOLUTELY! Fabulous app!
D. I cited the example of there being no explanation in the Guide for how to add notes. This is the most basic functionality necessary to use BassLine. If you can’t add notes, the app doesn’t play. Seems like a mention of that would have been helpful.
E. Marketing 101: Imagine how many more people might purchase them (and 5 star reviews) if it was clear how to use them. More sales = more income = $$ to pay someone to document them if your “one man shop” is busy maintaining the technical and software issues.
I have a long software development background. DINOSAUR-era long. I wrote my first code in 1967. There is no separation between code and documentation. And it isn’t really that hard. Even if it’s in the form that the Quantum doc takes, where you click the ? and then click the icon for the feature you want to know, it seems like “how to” is critical to an app’s use.
If forums like this one weren’t available, based on the theory of an app being inexpensive because there’s little documentation, the app model would collapse entirely. But WE are effectively writing the doc FOR the developer. For free. Wait no, not for free. We have to PAY for the app and learn how to use it by trial and error, THEN provide the doc. Don’t misunderstand, I’m happy to pass along things I learn/discover about apps. I want the whole process of using apps to be as approachable as possible so we can all make better music.
Now back to our regularly scheduled program... Rozeta Suite is maybe the best thing since sliced bread, once you know how to use it. Thanks in advance for tolerating my rant. I’ll go take my meds. 😏
No problem. This is a great place to get things off our chest.
I did some programming as a hobby a few decades ago - a few shareware things, and some paid custom jobs here and there. Nothing close to as complex as an app like Rozeta Suite. If I was a developer today, I'd provide extensive, detailed documentation for everything. If I was approaching it as a livelihood, I'd want to charge more than normal for the app---and probably see I need to find another job.
As a hobby (or secondary income,) I'd provide the complete documentation just because I want everyone to know how to use my hopefully fabulous creation, and it would also satisfy my sense of completeness.
I don't know what it's like to be an iOS dev today. I just see that what a dev gets for their work looks small. I can understand how, if a dev needs to make a living, they must have to focus their time on coding so as to get their next inexpensive app out there. Documentation gets less attention. If it's more a hobby, then a dev is going to do what satisfies their own desires, and writing a manual or making a video may be something they don't like to do. So it's a trade-off, I think. We get, in general, poorer or less comprehensive docs, but we have a platform that attracts independent developers like Bram Bos and many others willing to sell their work for very little.
What really surprises me is that I don’t see documentalists out there offering their services to devs. I’m not sure how other users keep track, but I have a searchable electronic notebook where I write down things that I learn. My notes (or yours) could be the basis of documentation. Even if the devs just aggregated the stuff about their apps that folks have written here in a FAQ form on a website, it would be a great way to provide help to use their apps. Devs, take heart. We’re here to help. 🤗