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AU Full Screen Fragmentation

Here’s full screen differences with Noise AUv3 between GarageBand and AUM. I hope we can avoid this kind of fragmentation by having everyone coalesce around iOS 11 “preferred view configuration’

For the sake of users :# .


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  • _ki_ki
    edited May 2018

    @realdawei If you open up the keyboard in AUM and then doubleklick the noise AUs titlebar to make it fullscreen, the layout looks the same to me....

    I don‘t see a problem with the both screenshots you posted - the AUM version without keyboard is heigher, but the layout of the synth itself didn‘t change (which i would indeed see as a problem between hosts).
    Onlys the XY pad was affected, so one has to move more in Y direction to archieve the same effect. Roli could program the Noise pad to stay rectangular to avoid the aspect ration change.

  • I was going to mention the same thing about the keyboard.

  • The keyboard in the GarageBand version above is the Roli Noise keyboard built right into to the AU, it’s not the GarageBand keyboard. So Roli is surfacing a specific different interface feature here. (However you can also get the GarageBand native keyboard by flicking a switch and reducing the Roli Noise to letterbox mode. )

    In this case it’s a minor nuisance but as more innovation comes to the plugins I think we’d see more divergence in functionality. This is more a heads up to the developers because I’m pretty sure they know exactly what I’m talking bout

  • edited May 2018

    I guess a video example would be clearer. This specialized Noise keyboard is made available in GB, but -not- in AUM or BM3

  • Agree with all you are saying. Hoping devs of the AUs and hosts can get some standardisation across the board in time. Would like to see Apple encourage this with suitable documentation etc.

  • @Fruitbat1919 said:
    Agree with all you are saying. Hoping devs of the AUs and hosts can get some standardisation across the board in time. Would like to see Apple encourage this with suitable documentation etc.

    Thanks! it’s been tough to see this slowly turning into a full screen train wreck. But I see promising developments coming via Drambo and Synthmaster etc

    I hope Cubasis does the right thing when the time comes to implement full screen.

    cc: @LFS

  • Oh sorry - i did‘t realize that it was the roli keyboard inside its AU window area. Your wakeup call to AU host developers and us users is a good idea to make everybody aware of the problem.

  • edited May 2018

    @_ki said:
    Oh sorry - i did‘t realize that it was the roli keyboard inside its AU window area. Your wakeup call to AU host developers and us users is a good idea to make everybody aware of the problem.

    No problem...just want make sure AUv3 reaches full potential. Also just checked latest Audiobus 3 beta...it seems to have iOS 11 preferred configuration view....thanks @Michael !

  • edited May 2018

    Not sure what the problem is? I think the roli keyboard looks cute and if Animoog ever goes AU then the tines in that would be good

  • Yeah I can see the problem too, can’t seem to get the Roli keyboard appear in AUM, Auria Pro and a few others.

  • I think GarageBand is currently the only iOS AU host that supports MPE and the ROLI style keyboard. There's a list over here: http://www.rogerlinndesign.com/ls-recommended-sounds.html

  • edited May 2018

    @philowerx said:
    I think GarageBand is currently the only iOS AU host that supports MPE and the ROLI style keyboard. There's a list over here: http://www.rogerlinndesign.com/ls-recommended-sounds.html

    This is a little different. In that link they are referring to Garageband’s keyboard. In this case what I’m seeing is that Roli’s app has two different implementations of full screen. One is served up to GarageBand (and any other host that supports the ‘official’ iOS 11 approach) The other implementation is served up to hosts that use what some have considered a more straight forward approach (as in AUM). But now that looks like dual maintenance and in this case it means a feature has been left out.

    I’d imagine Model 15 has two different code paths as well.

    What I’m really asking for here is for all hosts to support “iOS 11 AU preferred view configuration.” So that there is at least a common target for full screen.

  • edited May 2018

    This Roli Noise app/keyboard is very interesting. Noticed too that it don’t render properly in GB, merging Roli track with a blank audio track don’t helps in my case. I use mainly AUM but it’s useless without proper Roli app keyboard. Really hope for an AUM update, but dev seems busy since there has not be any big update since a while.

  • @Janosax said:
    This Roli Noise app/keyboard is very interesting. Noticed too that it don’t render properly in GB, merging Roli track with a blank audio track don’t helps in my case. I use mainly AUM but it’s useless without proper Roli app keyboard. Really hope for an AUM update, but dev seems busy since there has not be any big update since a while.

    I did correspond recently with AUM developer on this. He’s on the case.

  • edited November 2018

    Yes Cubasis did eventually do exactly as I asked. This thread is from 6 months ago 💀

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