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New MacOS - Proceed with caution?

Hi all - I’ve been making music on iOS for years, but just started also using my wife’s Mac. I primarily use Logic Pro X with a few synths (Synthmaster One, Arturia V Collection, VCV Rack).

With the announcement of the new Mac OS today, can I assume that the same caution to upgrade on MacOS is the same as iOS? I’m still new to using a Mac for music production, so I appreciate any feedback, advice or horror stories about how to proceed.

Thanks!

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  • @Seangarland said:
    can I assume that the same caution to upgrade on MacOS is the same as iOS?

    Yes.

  • It won’t be out until Autumn, so you have plenty of time to think about it.

  • As with iOS and my iPads, OS updates completely decimated the speed of my 2012 MacBook Pro, making it all but unusable until I recently updated it with an SSD.

    Depends what yours is on, but I only update now if there’s a very good reason to do so, as it inevitably comes with a performance hit.

    Apple promised to address this issue yesterday, so hopefully future updates will undo the damage done previously.

  • edited June 2018

    Yes. The good thing is that in the Mac OS desktop world there is a lot more publishing of lists of what software does and doesn’t work.

  • Yep, if anything the MacOS updates are even more ‘breaky-breaky’ than those in iOS. (And defintitely DO NOT jump until months have passed after the initial release.) Many have learned through sad experience that the best MacOS for your computer is often the one it came with. I’m still on Sierra that came with my 2017 iMac, and won’t be updating until Apple essentially forces me to upgrade. Which they will. (Likely through requiring an update to the newest version of XCode to publish to the App Store... that is only available on the latest and greatest MacOS). Ugh.

  • Yup. Logic will get updated and will work fine but your third party stuff is bound to need updates of some sort. Main reason why I’m still on El Capitan. When I grab a new MacBook I’ll see what software I can salvage lol but I’m not too concerned concidering I create all of my music on my iPad now

  • @Tovokas said:
    Many have learned through sad experience that the best MacOS for your computer is often the one it came with.

    That’s a very good point, and pretty much matches my experience with Apple and Windows computers over the last 30 years.

  • Here is a controversial opinion: update if you want to! I have been updating the OS on day one for both iOS and MacOS since 2014, and I’ve never had any catastrophic issues. Ableton and Apogee usually confirm compatibility by day one (not that it matters to you but that’s what I use). Logic Pro will (almost) certainly work as well as it did before the update. If you really want to be careful, wait until Arturia, Synthmaster, and VCV confirm compatibility.

    Unless you’re making money off of your music and/or working to a deadline (which many around here do, hence the caution), bugs won’t be anything more than a minor nuisance. Worst case, you’re stuck using stock synths or making music on your phone while Arturia sorts through the reports.

    The only downside of this is that if you DO update, you can’t complain about it if something goes wrong. You have to quietly submit your bug reports and remind yourself that it’s your own fault. But as I said, as a longtime user of Logic, Ableton, and an Apogee Duet 2, I’ve been updating on day one without any major issues.

  • ALWAYS proceed with caution!!!!! lol the older the Mac even more so.

  • @Seangarland said:
    Hi all - I’ve been making music on iOS for years, but just started also using my wife’s Mac. I primarily use Logic Pro X with a few synths (Synthmaster One, Arturia V Collection, VCV Rack).

    With the announcement of the new Mac OS today, can I assume that the same caution to upgrade on MacOS is the same as iOS? I’m still new to using a Mac for music production, so I appreciate any feedback, advice or horror stories about how to proceed.

    Thanks!

    Are you talking about the beta? I would wait a bit for sure in that case.

  • @jrjulius said:
    Here is a controversial opinion: update if you want to! I have been updating the OS on day one for both iOS and MacOS since 2014, and I’ve never had any catastrophic issues. .

    Same here, I even run the late stage betas and have no issues.

  • Updated my macbook pro late 2013 each year shortly after the new releases (but no betas) and never had much issues so far. Now on High Sierra and everything works mainly like on the first day. The only thing i had is that some plug-ins had a bit of chaotic presets browser do due to the new APFS file system. But that is mostly solved now too.
    I also will update since i´m sure the next big Logic version will need it and it sure will work anyway on the latest macOS. As long as my favorite synth P900 runs i will update. If not i will stay at the last it runs on. I just never want to loose that gem of a synth.
    IOS were mostly more bad for me since i just can´t use some apps anymore and on macOS it´s also easy to go back if something go worse compared to iOS.
    But as usual....never change a running system if you won´t need really the new stuff it comes with.

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