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Maschine Mk2/Mk3 as pad controller for iOS?

gosnotegosnote
in General App Discussion

Anyone using a Maschine Mk2/Mk3 / Maschine Mikro Mk2 as a pad controller with their iOS device? I am interested in the Maschine pads for their feel/sensivity, but have read conflicting things indicating that it is not necessarily possible to simply connect a Maschine in "Midi Mode" to an iPad/iPhone using the CCK and a powered usb hub?

Can anyone confirm whether it works or not? I am specifically interested in the Maschine Mikro mk2. Cheers!

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  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    I’ve never been able to get my Mikro mk1 to work, don’t know about mk2 though.

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    It’s class compliant only for audio. NI are genious...

    :bawling:

  • legsmechanicallegsmechanical

    @Dubbylabby said:
    It’s class compliant only for audio. NI are genious...

    :bawling:

    I'm pretty sure I've read that mk2 is class compliant for midi. mk1 (which I've got) definitely is NOT.

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]
    edited June 2018

    @legsmechanical said:

    @Dubbylabby said:
    It’s class compliant only for audio. NI are genious...

    :bawling:

    I'm pretty sure I've read that mk2 is class compliant for midi. mk1 (which I've got) definitely is NOT.

    I was talking about mk3. Idk about mk2 but I think isn’t neither... I could be wrong since I never looked deep into it before.

    https://support.native-instruments.com/hc/en-us/articles/209559409-Mac-OS-X-10-6-10-11-Compatibility-of-Native-Instruments-Hardware-Products

    It says yes but it isn’t afaik...

    Users experience.
    https://intua.net/forums/index.php?p=/discussion/6033/question-about-hardware-support

    https://www.gearslutz.com/board/showthread.php?p=12881765

    I also found myself talking about this when it was released (mk3) and class compliant energy limitations made it only for audio

    @Dubbylabby on the internet said:
    https://disq.us/url?url=https://developer.apple.com/library/content/technotes/tn2274/_index.html:wYnPGreUWlry-6eWmmGdpjz4BtY&cuid=1295632
    Teoretically you can add better soundcard (and i/o) to a class compliant devices but then you need to struggle with energy drain and since the new maschine is usb powered it adds extra compromise. NI made it audio class compliant for the first time (this mean iOS compatibility almost for the soundcard like z1).
    It could be also midi class compliant and doesn't need dedicated driver to work (aka code that inside the app like z1 with traktor dj app) but it will require a low energy mode (like launchpads) and forget about screens if only makes it midi class compliant and don't mfi (dedicated driver inside iMaschine app)

    So afaik it (mk3) isn’t...

  • TarekithTarekith

    I just tried my MK3 with my 10.5" Pro and can confirm it does not work. This message appeared even with the Maschine hardware connected to it's PSU.

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    It requires a low energy mode like launchpads as start point but NI doesn’t seem too much interested...

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    It's a real pain in the ass. I'd love to be able to use my Maschine hardware with the iPad - it's be perfect for apps like BM3 and erm...iMaschine.

  • legsmechanicallegsmechanical

    @Tarekith said:

    I just tried my MK3 with my 10.5" Pro and can confirm it does not work. This message appeared even with the Maschine hardware connected to it's PSU.

    I've got some controllers that I need to run both through a usb hub AND their own power in order to avoid that message

  • cooloutcoolout

    Best controller for this application is the Korg Padkontrol. I had one for years (just sold it in a spring purge). I wasn't using it much, but the pads felt just as good/responsive as my Maschine MK2 and Mikro. Class-compliant, very flexible with the Korg editor, worked great with CCK and iPad. If I didn't have the Nanokontrol Studio (wireless FTW) and Launchpad Mini (Push keyboard modes) for my iPad I would have kept it.

  • gosnotegosnote

    @coolout thanks for the Korg Padkontrol tip - does the iPad power the Padkontrol?

  • gosnotegosnote

    I’m also looking at the MPD226 in hopes that the pad sensitivity can be adjusted to be more sensitive than the default setting that the MPD218 has which cannot be adjusted.

  • gosnotegosnote

    @gosnote said:
    @coolout thanks for the Korg Padkontrol tip - does the iPad power the Padkontrol?

    According to
    http://www.korg.com/download/global/support/os/pdf/ios_compatibilitychart_KORG_en.pdf
    An ac adapter or powered usb hub is required...

  • YZJustDatGuyYZJustDatGuy

    @gosnote said:
    I’m also looking at the MPD226 in hopes that the pad sensitivity can be adjusted to be more sensitive than the default setting that the MPD218 has which cannot be adjusted.

    According to Akai themselves, the MPD226’s pads can be adjusted

    https://community.akaipro.com/akai_professional/topics/new-mpd218-and-mpd226-pad-sensitivity

  • supadomsupadom

    @legsmechanical said:

    @Tarekith said:

    I just tried my MK3 with my 10.5" Pro and can confirm it does not work. This message appeared even with the Maschine hardware connected to it's PSU.

    I've got some controllers that I need to run both through a usb hub AND their own power in order to avoid that message

    This might be the ticket. Akai mpk mini 2 is one of them.

  • YZJustDatGuyYZJustDatGuy
    edited June 2018

    @supadom said:

    @legsmechanical said:

    @Tarekith said:

    I just tried my MK3 with my 10.5" Pro and can confirm it does not work. This message appeared even with the Maschine hardware connected to it's PSU.

    I've got some controllers that I need to run both through a usb hub AND their own power in order to avoid that message

    This might be the ticket. Akai mpk mini 2 is one of them.

    To my understanding, the maschine doesn’t work without drivers. Might be something different in the MK3.
    Edit: actually, maschines in general aren’t class compliant so they won’t work on iOS.

  • kobamotokobamoto

    what about the launchpad?

  • gosnotegosnote

    @YZJustDatGuy said:

    @gosnote said:
    I’m also looking at the MPD226 in hopes that the pad sensitivity can be adjusted to be more sensitive than the default setting that the MPD218 has which cannot be adjusted.

    According to Akai themselves, the MPD226’s pads can be adjusted

    https://community.akaipro.com/akai_professional/topics/new-mpd218-and-mpd226-pad-sensitivity

    That's exactly what I mean - the MPD226 pads can be adjusted whereas the MPD218 pads can't. Which leads to my question - I wonder do the pad sensitivity parameters of the MPD218 have an average value from within the range that the MPD226 pads can be set to or are they already e.g. adjusted to the most sensitive by default. Assuming the hardware in the pads are the same in both models, if the latter is not the case, then there are hopes of being able to adjust the MPD226 pads to be more sensitive compared to the MPD218. Would be great to hear someone's first hand experiences on this...

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