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Any Push users here?
I use a Korg NanoKontrol Key Studio and love it but wish I had a slightly more robust midi controller for desk work. I'm basically torn between a Push 2 and a Novation Launchkey. I feel like the Launchkey has more immediate use given it can plug and play with IOs but Push would provide me room to grow and could ultimately be used with Studiomux and AUM to integrate with IOs. Anyone have thoughts on what has worked best for them? I'm a intermediate keyboard player at best so I'm not giving up anything by going pads.
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I would add that for Ableton they will have to make some decisions this year so I would expect some announcements in November.
Push as become a limb for me when it comes to producing on Ableton. I absolutely love it. I’ve never used it for iOS and having a feeling it won’t be that smooth an operation.
I have both. I use the launchpad pro more for iOS.
If you use and love Ableton the Push2 is the hub of your playback experience. It’s a fantastic workflow and if you route your iPad via IDAM you can use it to play your iOS synths.
The only downside to using Push with the iPad I've found is that you need to involved the computer still as others have said. At least on a Mac this is a little easier to do since you can connect the iPad to your computer via just a lightening cable for audio and midi.
Yeah. Now that Ableton has opened and made programming to the Push 2 easier i wish a team like Intua would enable the Push2 as controller for it.
Mayb someone will take up that opportunity and make iPad workflow totally stand alone with a Push 2.
Man! I read the header to quickly. Any Pushers here? 😝
The general online sentiment is that another Push is not on the horizon. Can you elaborate on what you are referring to here?
I've been doing tests with AUM and Studiomux to route out midi from ableton and audio back in so it is possible. Viability is a big question though like you said since pretty much any hindrance to productivity is a game stopper for me. Feel like I probably can't have my cake and eat it with this one. I either have to go all in with desktop with a push or commit to a mobile platform and go with a controller that is sub optimal for ableton. Doesn't mean I can't make music with both, but I should probably just assume combining IOs and Mac is more pain than it is worth.
Do you like using Launchpad with Ableton? I know it isn't as deep but do you like working with ableton using it?
I have never used IDAM... I have IOS 11 so this should be possible. I will look into this when I get home. Do you find it easy to use?
Sure, first I’m not in the know about anything so just my opinion. I believe Ableton will either release a push 3 and if so it will have some sort of standalone ability along with limited audio I/O. If not and less likely they will announce a step into iOS. The situation is actually difficult for Ableton. iOS is not a good market model for them financially at present but it also pays to take risks and they have been bold in the past. A possible solution is to release a more mobile push device..
I had push1 when getting into ios music stuff. I used studiomux(this was before idam) to sequence ios synths with push/ableton, record loops there and put the loops together etc on ableton. As much as i like ableton and push, i dont like the mouse/keyboard thing and have moved away from using my laptop for creating music. If you like using a desktop daw, i highly recommend push. Push 1 is stupid low price used for how good it is and is still a solid choice imo. Push 2 basically just has a better screen, so that you can look at it instead of your computers screen when chopping samples etc. and bit softer pads.
I think if you’re asking if you can have the best of both worlds, or a “good enough” setup with only the LaunchPad Pro, my answer would be no. Push is really an Ableton thing, and the LaunchPad just won’t deliver on the Push promise.
It breaks the other way, too. Push is really designed for Ableton, and I wouldn’t recommend it as a standalone MIDI controller.
One option is get a LP Pro, and a used Push 1. If you’re serious about Ableton, you really want a Push 2. But a used Push 1 might help you decide how you feel about Push overall before you take the plunge to Push 2.
Does this help at all?
BTW, yes, I like using the LaunchPad Pro with Ableton, just not as a Push. Make sense?
I like the LaunchPad Pro so much, that I got a Circuit. I was never a fan of Novation keyboard controllers, but man, I really like their pad controllers.
Yes, and confirmed what I suspected. I appreciate the candid response. Very informative. Thanks!
Does Push 1 work with the latest Ableton?
I use Push 1 with Bitwig Studio which in turn interfaces with iOS via IConnectivity ICA4+
Bitwig Studio on a Surface Pro combined with iPAD could be a nice setup also.
Similar to chris foster but push 2 with ableton via iconnectivity ica4+. I also have a bunch of different midi controllers plugged in the ica4+. You can just route anything anywhere.
Push 1 is still supported by Ableton, and is still receiving updates..........here's the link;
https://help.ableton.com/hc/en-us/articles/209072569-Will-Push-1-work-with-Live-9-6-
Push 3 happened when v10 arrived!
Push 1 feels a lot better with the favourites folder for quick browsing, deep control of Wavetable and the melodic sequencer and Live now remembers repeat/accent/scales per track. I'm on windows and the performance boost using v10 made the original push feel more snappy for performance.
this means you can send midi from your push to your ipad in a better way than creating a user mode and using that?