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Difference between SampleTank versions
Hi, I want to buy SampleTank, but I'm confused about all of that in-app purchases. There's no clean list of what is included in what version. For example, SampleTank for iPad is currently on sale for $9.99 and SampleTank Custom Shop is for free, but both of them have in-app purchase to buy all of the sounds for the same price. So I am paying $9.99 for what? That makes no sense If I still have to pay the same amount of money to have all of the sounds. They are even the same size of 1,6GB (SampleTank and SampleTank CS) which is weird if CS have 26 instruments and normal SampleTank have about 150 instruments. Secondly, does the "Buy all the sounds" or "SampleTank PRO" include Miroslav Philharmonik? Or that I have "Buy all the sounds" option in an app that normally cost about $20. That's crazy. I was thinking that by buying SampleTank app it is going to have all the sounds built-in. Summing up, I would like to know what are the differences between SampleTank CS, SampleTank and SampleTank PRO. Thanks for the help and sorry if my grammar isn't correct or something, but I'm not very good in English 
I hope you understand what I meant!
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SampleTank comes with around 145 sounds. SampleTank CS (free) is fully-functional to try all the features, but only has 23 or so sounds. The in-app purchase/upgrade in CS unlocks the rest of the 122 sounds.
The SampleTank Pro in-app purchase will give you 500+ sounds, but does not include the Miraslov Philharmonik libraries.
If you get SampleTank and add SampleTank Pro, you may notice a few “grayed out” instrument sounds. Those are exclusive sounds you get when you buy and register IK Multimedia hardware, like iRigs Keys.
Hope this helps!
@asia i had the same confusion to understand the IAPs in Sampletank.
May this link helps. Here you find all IAPs with detailed descriptions / patch lists in the infos.
http://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/sampletankios/index.php?pp=sampletankios-versions#stpro
I have most of the IAPs except the SampleTank Pro Pack and the Synth related packs because I have enough Pianos and Synths already. I was focusing for the real world acoustic instruments.
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@chandroji
Thanks a lot! I will buy only SampleTank and Miroslav then
@asia many like SampleTank, but I offer a different solution... Beathawk and its acoustic sounds, some iSymphonic, Thumbjam And Thor, if you insist on ST try the Miroslav 1 as a cheaper but probably equally good alternative ( and has percipussion whereas 2 does not) To me the Miroslav should have Miroslav Vitous turning over in his bed. Check thesoundtestroom for Beathawk acoustics, especially orchestras and percussion. I looked forward to Miroslav 2 with great desire and got a refund, the first and only time. You are looking at an $100 investment with the percussion added.
Beathawk + 2 sound packs around $30 iSymphonic + 2 packs $40, Thumbjam for best solo trumpet, cello, violin, good sax, trombone, viola and more $9, Thor with 1000 very malleable sounds $10 = $90
Get the b16i (? App) for less than $10, get the great Salamander pianos plus a ton of free sound fonts, is there any comparison? Plus ST's graphics are lousy in my opinion and that stuff counts,
In my book.
Of course you still need a recording app but Cubasis with its great new update is on sale for $25!!! Anyone disagree? Come and get me!
Bs-16i for the pianos et. al. @asia
Sampletank is currently on sale 50% off.
+1
Another difference, if I'm not wrong, it's the Pro version only runs on 64 bits devices.
I have Cubasis, Sampletank w MP2, iSymphonic (starter product which has some strings),
Beathawk but no IAP's.
I imported a Beethoven Symphony into Cubasis which needs strings, woodwinds, trumpet and tympani. Cubasis properly assigned all the parts and the music played instantly but needed better sounds on many of the parts.
So, I added iSymphonic as an AU instrument, selected legato strings and assigned it to one of the string parts in Cubasis. Much more realistic. To cover all these instruments I'd have to increase my investment in iSymphonic by about $40-60. Getting just the tympani for example would require $20 but maybe another score would need the other extras. It appears the only way to use iSymphonic across the whole project would be to make a MIDI assignment and then freeze that track and have a permanent audio track so I could re-assign iSymphonic to another track in the project. Repeat until I have a pretty damn good orchestra.
I looked into using SampleTank and saw that I could only feed it MIDI to a given MR2 instrument. I gave up on that avenue. Maybe someone will slip me a clue how to use MR2.
Then I looked into the straight MIDI player route. iSymphonic allowed me to load the Beethoven MIDI file into it's internal file player. It assigned strings which I own and showed which products to buy so I'd hear the flute, bassoon, etc. I almost started buying to hear the final product. I'm waiting until the next credit card bill to keep the total reasonable... I've been buying lots of sale products (like Cubasis). After getting all the extras I can have an orchestra ready to go in iSymphonic for creation and playback and save the audio results in Cubasis to add extra's like Synth lead, etc. Probably the best path to good sounding IOS Orchestra composing. If there's a better please slip me a clue.
I also have Korg Module with the Orchestral IAP product I should see what I could do there. I've forgotten about the Korg's products after Cubasis because AU and IAP capabilities lead you to specific products and Korg is in their own world. I bought Xequence yesterday and it's demo's use Korg Gadget as the sound module. That makes it clear why many people live in Gadget. It just wasn't a perfect DAW for me or I would have stopped there. I think one of those Gadgets can load soundfont libraries too. So, maybe I could get an orchestra out of it too.
I loaded the Beethoven into BS-16i and the standard General MIDI Library plays it without and editing needed. Probably the best bang for the buck to have a complete orchestra...
I'm looking into better SoundFont orchestra's to import into BS-16i. There are out there and SoundFonts4u documents how to get a desktop tool for making SF2 libraries. If the standard Oboe doesn't work for you then you could swap it out with something else.
I haven't looked into BeatHawk for orchestra composing/playback yet.
Whatever you do going forward please comeback to this thread and give us your results and any clues about workflow that you use. There's a small group that probably wants these details. Kuhl has the most impressive SoundCloud results (see his Mahler symphony) and has probably tested most of these products to find his perfect setup... I think he uses Desktop products because IOS just isn't close enough.
still not worth it even at half price when you line it up against the array I mentioned. @asia. Nothing like having high expectations and then the shock of reality. I am talking quality of sounds, manipulation in Thumbjam and Thor vs. pretty much ADSR in ST. Great free pianos, Au strings in iSymphonic. UVI quality sounds in BeatHawk. And Cubasis at $25. Plus I think the IK sale ended yesterday. Just my opinion, of course
Yes, ST is still on sale. Still there is very little sample tweaking in it. ADSR us about it. Thumbjam and Thor alone are immensely malleable with great presets. Thumbjam also offers a sampler.
iSymphonic is Au and beats the pants off the MP 2 strings. The violin, cello, trumpet, trombone, sax in Thumbjam are amongst the best solo instruments available. This is just my opinion, of course!
It's worth mentioning that the IOS playback device matters. SampleTank was introduced years ago. It works on my IOS 9 iPad 2.
For my current work I upgraded to IOS 11 and the 2018 iPad 9.7" model with 128GB of storage.
What IOS platform are you using?
There was poster yesterday on this path that said "I have $1000 budget". Who makes a great Orchestra Product? Actually... he threw in the $1000 after asking what he should get, I think. Well, that budget really changed the answers. We all make assumptions. Shoot first, aim later.
I don’t think so!
For me ST was a good buy. One of the best acoustic Guitars you find in ST - American Acoustic. So far the best sounding Western Guitar I found in IOS.
I own BeatHawk as well and I love the AU and most of the sounds. There are also some nice Guitars but nothing like the American Acoustic.
By the way - The IK sale is still available!
Ok @chandroji, I certainly respect what you are saying. But is a great acoustic guitar worth a $100 worth of apps as @asia is describing. Or could you spend that hundred better than putting it into SampleTank? If you had no apps and someone gave you $100, how would you spend it to best outfit yourself? Would you dump it all into ST for the MP2. Percussion, a piano, American acoustic? Or would you look for an array that gave you a great synth, some great acoustics, top of the line Au strings, one of the best pianos and a ton of fonts, orchestral sounds and percussion and Beathawks sequencer, etc,? Be honest. How would you spend it? (This is all in good fun, btw!) @asia probably bought ST already!
Yeah the guitar is great but IK has been promising Au3 for the longest. What’s up with that? If you have a four gig iPad Pro and invest in the IAP’s it’s great and it’s ginna get even better. But no AUv3? C’mon!!!
iSymphonic, do you know how much the IAP's are, this must add up pretty quick i guess? I am interested in this though.
Hi @[Deleted User]. The in apps are $15-$18 I believe. There are previews for all the packs on their website. It is Crudebyte, isn't it? (One of those senior moments). I think you can cover yourself without buying them all. Keys, for example, some of the strings, the choruses. I am looking at Tosca and two to three others, but I am not trying to emulate an orchestra ( though BH seems to have great ones). Strange, the solo violin, cello, viola, trumpet and trombone seem to be the best, to my ears, on Thumbjam $8.99. Let us know what you do and why. 😊
I loveeeee thumbjam, just need that orchestra feel sometimes but I don't wanna get caught up in buying a lot of IAP's. will keep you posted :-)
@LinearLineman
Yea, I bought ST a few minutes before I saw your comment and I’m so mad about it now. I’ve been playing with it for a while and I’m Not really satisified with it, so I will probably return it back. Bismark that you have mentioned above sounds interesting, but is it stable as an AUv3? I mean I have read some opinions that it can crash when loading larger sf2 files. Is it working with No problems for you?
BeatHawk sounds also good from What I’ve seen on youtube so I think I will go for it too. Thanks for the advice
@asia, well you would have always wondered what you were missing.. I got a refund on it so you should be able to as well. The demos for MP2 are terrific. Just don't know how they get there from what they offer.
My view on Salamander is based on the views of folks I respect on the forum. I have iGrand and Ravenscroft275. RC275 is killer but people have some issues (see the thread Ravenscroft on sale). @McDtracy recommends a piano from the Colossus family for $15. CMP looks good for the same price. But Salamander is intriguing because of the choice of velocity points, the touted sound quality and all the other goodies you can get for free.
@the soundtestroom probably demos everything you are interested in. Good luck! We all experience the same as you, but you will be very satisfied once you have got the apps that really work for you. And don't forget Cubasis is on sale! Best.
Sure I won’t spend these 100.-€ in SampleTank! 😎
I would spend it in Cubasis (sale 25.-), Patterning and some other nice Apps I may need. If I want American Acoustic because I love Guitars in my Music I would buy just SampleTank free and the IAP.
You are right @LinearLineman , there are a lot of alternative in IOS market so it depend what you really want and need.
I wouldn’t advice to buy the whole ST package at the very beginning. There are so many other nice apps to start with. 🎶
SampleTank has confusing IAPs to make you accidentally buy something only to realize it didn’t include what you really wanted in the first place. My first journey into iOS I spent way more than I intended and most was on sale. While SampleTank definely has it’s uses and it is a good buy only one app solution, I would never advise anyone to buy any of it. I’m biased as IK stuff has always left me bitter in some way.
Is sampletank abandonware? I see it and cs were last updated 4 years ago. I don’t want to buy anything inside if it’s just going to drop out of existence