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Gadget and IAPS: who don’t use them that much?
I fell in love with Gadget when starting doing tracks with it. It was one year ago. I then buyed Madrid, Gladstone, Abu Dhabi, Bilbao, Deemax, iMonopoly and Module in december. All during sales, for a 130 € total for Gadget/iaps, which is still my priciest iOS app, as I spent around 450/500 € on iOS apps in one year.
And.... since I had get all iaps, I truly don’t use it that much. I use mostly Madrid with iFretlessbass as a midi controller for my bass parts routed to AUM/ApeM/aufxs recorded in Blocswave or GB with lots of other apps. For piano I have RS275, Rhodes Neo soul keys, organs BeatHawk electric organs, synths Zeeon Unique and Model D, and all AU fxs. I wish to use Abu Dhabi, Bilbao and Gladstone more often. So it became just a sound source like all my other apps.
I’m curious what next Gadget version will bring to us! Hope they work on an big update after Switch release.
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I, too, thought Gadget was the answer to all my needs. I have no complaints about it except for the sixteen bar limitation in the sequencer. But I am a preset person, who either uses the preset with some effects or gets lucky tweaking something into a usable patch. Synths like SM1, Thor, Kauldron are perfect for me. The most usable material for me in Gadget comes from Darwin, which, of course is iM1. I also don't make my own drum loops, another forte of Gadget. I think I will search for good bass patches there eventually and I liked the sound of Amsterdam, but for me Gadget was part of the journey to get where I wanted to go.
Though it wouldn't change my opinion personally, I think allowing Gadget to host other, nonKorg apps, would be great but somehow I don't think they will be so nonproprietial.
I uninstalled it a while ago (over a year I think) to free up some space and haven't really missed it despite getting it at launch and buying into the extra synths and whatnot.
I think it's still a wonder but it just doesn't fit my mix and match AUM/Cubasis/AB/apeMatrix workflow right now.
If Madrid were available as a standalone, I would delete Gadget, and not miss it all.
I just like to use iWavetstation and ArpOdyssei.
Change the time signature to 8/4 and 16 becomes 32.
What I wish they’d implement is looping multiple scenes.
Navigation is a big chore as well with the browser back button style workflow but you can still enjoy it for what it does.
I want the next IAP to be a better version of the Zurich audio gadget. I want it to be modern (ie digital) with all the rapid audio scrubbing and editing capabilities.
Putting in Files support is the reason I recon they’re being so quiet about getting the next update out. It was a year ago nearly today when the infamous version 3 debacle was (not) released, after some hype that it would.
I mostly work in Gadget, so I got all IAPS (except Deemax, waiting for a sale).
All of these are used regularly. Except Kamata, which I still appreciate for what it is.
Never use it, because it drains my battery in about 30 minutes, just before it’s about to catch fire.
I do like it, but aside from not being able to use it due to the issues above, I’d rather muck about with AUM and some AU’s.
If the only music-making app I had was Gadget (with IAPs), I'd be happy with my iPad. It would serve a great purpose. It's a reliable, quickly accessible sketchpad, and I'd prefer Korg keep it relatively simple. The only reason I don't use Gadget as much as I used to is because there are so many other good and interesting apps. I also have the desktop version of Gadget, but it's the same. There are only so many hours in a day.
Files app integration across iOS & MacOS and ability to launch clips by tapping them like Launchpad please
i never use it anymore as well. it's probably very poorly written because like MonzoPro said it gets super hot within seconds and with only one gadget open. the battery obviously doesn't have a chance to last. i'm bummed about it because it had real potential but i rather use better optimized apps.
I do agree with the cpu/battery problem mentioned above.
I want to like it, I love the sounds, just can’t get on with the sequencer even after all these years. Bought all IAP’s except those after like odyssei. So I guess that’s not really a ton. Sprung for a Nanokey Studio which i still do use though mostly with GarageBand or Reason. I do like that lil keyboard though
I love Gadget the sounds are top notch, the sequencer is odd until you get familiar with it. I have produced some quality work with this app. The only few things i can gripe about are the flawed midi import, and the lack of AUv3 support. These two limitations in work flow remind me of Retronyms limitations with IMPC pro and Tabletop and how their apps lack connectivity Audiobus etc. Primarily because of the malfunctioning Midi import problem within Gadget I have started to use Cubasis. The only problem with Cubasis is it's flawed file system and inability to allow users to create sub folders within folders. Other than the issue with the filing system Cubasis with newly polished update is an excellent app. I have all the D.A.W.s and large arsenal of apps to allow myself, many alternative routes to create. If Korg fixes the issue with imported Midi files being disjointed by their sequencer, lack of AUv3, a better sampler gadget they would climb back to prominence. Honestly I have been using Cubasis with Beathawk and AUv3 apps and occasional IAA apps.
Yah, for me it is a sound source, simple groovebox. Abu Dhabi has the nice grainshifter etc and the automation can do some real cool things, If it gets files support that would be very nice for workflow and give it a real second wind for me. Madrid is nice for bass. Montpellier has a load of nicely tweakable presets I dig. In fact if it weren’t for Montpellier I probably would not even think to ever load Gadget. I find the quicker I export bits to BM3 the better. The FAC plugins and other AUs are super essential now. Gadget is fun for when I am half asleep and just want to warmly ease into things. Quick inspiration.
Midi import on Gadget is freaking broke as fuck! Why can’t Korg fix it? Why do imports automatically get cut into little fragments of single bar loops? If they fix that and add inter-app (yeah I know... no chance) it would be the best app ever. Korg will korg I suppose...
Sadly, too much hot lap and battery death.
I feel your pain brother, I believe it has to do with their unconventional Ableton-esque approach to sequencing.
It was a great novelty in the beginning, but trying to apply it to real world work flow revealed he limitation and flaw.
Perhaps the developers at Korg do not even know about this bug,. I will try to contact someone there an get us a fix.
It really does not make much sense, If the user can record Midi in a linear sequence, by all logic we should be able to import that way as well. Korg appears to be tremendously large company there is a lot of red tape to get through to access true support. probably the best way would be to make a video outlining the flaw in the app. i doubt they would appreciate that but I would think it may get their attention faster than posting on their help forum.
It's the "walled garden" approach pioneered by companies like Apple: very controlling but also pretty bug-free, without viruses and an integrated, extendable (using their extensions only of course) platform.
Does anyone make a drum product similar to Gladstone... cause I want that live jazz drummer capability and everything I have found just doesn't sound like it does in the Gadget demo. I'm hesitant to invest further in Gadget.
NOTE: I hack the 16 bar sequencer limit by setting the Bars to 16, time signature to 8/4 and the BPM to 20. It will record at 2 1/2 bars per minute. You then have 7 minute realtime tracks. Pretty good hack to make it more of a typical DAW in practice. It you want a metronome record one or lay down a drum track for 7 minutes. I do agree we shouldn't have to do this if we want longer "scenes". But "walled gardens" have their own logic.
The dreaded "walled garden" SCREAM....LOL! I understand and that makes perfect sense or nonsense depending on
your perception of course. The hack seems interesting but I'm fine with the 16 bar limitation. I would just create a new track. Thanks for the info bro
This guy has a nice stock pile of drum apps that seem to be high quality not cheap but they sound great perfect for Jazz I believe that Doug from thesoundtestroom@YouTube has a demo of all of these apps. Don't forget to use Doug's link in the description. He gets a small percentage
it really doesn't matter what kind of garden it is if the code is inefficient. gadget just screams exponential time algorithms. obviously i can't know for sure without looking at the code but i feel like it does need a complete overhaul in any case and i can't see them ever doing that because it will take a lot of time and resources and they already have our money so no sense in doing that. that's why i deleted it because i don't believe they will, and if they don't then it doesn't really matter what features they'll add.
More or less what I do with Gadget too.
For those who don't like the sequencer, Xequence with its linear timeline works perfectly with Gadget.
Easiest way to do long recordings in Gadget is to copy scenes as much as you need. Then, when you start recording, disable loop mode if need (it's always enabled by default when you go to Gadget view), and your recording will be done all along scenes, clip by clip.
I use Gadget every day, I have all iap's. I think Gadget got the best piano roll on ios and it's perfect for the kind of songs I write (songs with an intro, verse, pre chorus, chorus, bridge, outro structure).
I use a lot of other apps to generate midi for use in Gadget, but Gadget is my main music app
I would like an AUV3 Gadget and support for the Files app.
Deemax is to expensive for the slight improvement over the regular limiter, in my humble opinion.
AUV3 for gadgets being able to be hosted elsewhere, like on Mac version
Gadget is a nice gadget. But if you want to get some really good quality sounds, you need to look elsewhere in my opinion.
which apps?
Some of the apps I use are:
Artiphon Instrument 1 app
ChordPolyPad
Fugue Machine
FunkBox
Funk Drummer
Future Drummer
Geoshred
Guitarism
Patterning
PolyChord
Rozeta Sequencer Suite
StepPolyArp
Yamaha Synthesizer Arpeggiator and Drum Pad
YouCompose
Xequence
I just got the Artiphon Instrument 1 a couple of weeks ago, and I think I will use it a lot
I'm a huge fan of Gladstone, Kamata and Madrid! I use them in almost every track! Here is one of my demoes with these gadgets:
Guess I got caught up in all the hype too. It's cute and quick but too shallow for my taste. The killer blow was when I discovered ODYSSEi patches are incompatible in it's crippled Gadget sister Lexington. KORG should make all their iOS offerings AU compatible like they did with Gadget for Windows and Mac. Also all their iOS apps should have Ableton Link compatibility. Untill that happens can't really see buying anymore KORG apps.
I also had been getting burned out on gadget, but for some reason getting Lisbon has really renewed my love of this app. The icon is a VR headset (i dont know what that has to do with anything) and I bought it because im a completest about some things. I reaaly wasn’t excited about another ‘edm’ gadget, i guess they all are technically, but i love the sounds and the ease of working the arpegiator. I completely agree about i odyssey. The really punched that one in the nuts for lexington. It really kills off the fun to not be able to use the excellent arps that the full app has.