iPadalboards? Where to look for a board, parts, etc. for live board setup?

Multicellular

As a guitar player, I have put together many a pedalboard.
Now adding iPad based drum machine and some synths, are there other places to look for what to build it on?

Below is an approximation of what I'm looking to do.
While the soup cans provide a certain mojo, I need something more stable.

Things I will do differently ultimately:
The current wooden cutting board (top tier) is a bit too long. I am not allowed to cut it, my wife needs that for dinner Wednesday apparently.
I want the Minitaur slightly elevated to just be above the pedals.
I also have a smaller power supply but I have to detach it from an old guitar pedalboard.
Would be good for the iPad to be at a slight angle.

When I've needed to customize guitar pedalboards, I bought robot parts. They have nice systems where things all fit together. http://www.modernroboticsinc.com/structure

And I could definitely do that here, but I didn't want to do extra work if there were already well trodden paths for this type of thing.

So if you have a similar gig setup, where did you get it? What did you make it from?

[Deleted User]

Flightcases?

Multicellular

@Dubbylabby said:
Flightcases?

Ya. The case is less of an issue for me. I have some old pedalboard cases that should do fine. Its more tiers and cable routing.

[Deleted User]

@Multicellular said:

@Dubbylabby said:
Flightcases?

Ya. The case is less of an issue for me. I have some old pedalboard cases that should do fine. Its more tiers and cable routing.

Mmmm then ikea brada could help you with both.

More hacks for studio and ikea stuff
https://www.pro-tools-expert.com/home-page/2016/10/3/new-facebook-page-set-up-called-studio-hacks

Multicellular

@Dubbylabby said:

@Multicellular said:

@Dubbylabby said:
Flightcases?

Ya. The case is less of an issue for me. I have some old pedalboard cases that should do fine. Its more tiers and cable routing.

Mmmm then ikea brada could help you with both.

More hacks for studio and ikea stuff
https://www.pro-tools-expert.com/home-page/2016/10/3/new-facebook-page-set-up-called-studio-hacks

Great idea. I have an Ikea just up the road. Should take a walk through with my notes and tape measure.

DMan

Are you trying to have this on the floor like a pedal board? I have a few pics of a flexible setup I’ve used, but it involves a keyboard stand. It’s basically “pedalboard” for keyboard kind of stuff built into the case of a broken old keyboard with holes to route and hide cables. My setup isn’t exactly what you want, and it would be awkward if you want it on the floor. I’ll find the pics and post them if you want.

Multicellular

Would love to see pics. No, i would put this on a X style keyboard stand.

DMan

I’ve never tried dragging and dropping photos in so hopefully this doesn’t do anything too crazy. here it is in two different setups. You really could just slap a piece of plywood on and use spray adhesive/staples to get felt on then you can Velcro whatever you want. I tried it that way and had 1\3 of the space being cables and adapters so I tried out this idea using the bottom of my broken K2000 keyboard which also gives it a slight angle, a hinge, several holes, and 2 trap doors. Now I can hide some cables underneath. If you want a second level just throw on another board. These onstage 2 tier X stands are like 75USD and are built pretty well.

Multicellular

@DMan said:

I’ve never tried dragging and dropping photos in so hopefully this doesn’t do anything too crazy. here it is in two different setups. You really could just slap a piece of plywood on and use spray adhesive/staples to get felt on then you can Velcro whatever you want. I tried it that way and had 1\3 of the space being cables and adapters so I tried out this idea using the bottom of my broken K2000 keyboard which also gives it a slight angle, a hinge, several holes, and 2 trap doors. Now I can hide some cables underneath. If you want a second level just throw on another board. These onstage 2 tier X stands are like 75USD and are built pretty well.

Looks sturdy and clean. Thanks for sharing.

[Deleted User]

I have similar setup at home and wondering solutions for stage...
Look at detail brada under flightcase

There are more than one pic

Processaurus

I’m using a iPad stand that was designed as a public kiosk, it is great. It is sturdy and adjustable and the iPad can’t walk off, and I didn’t have to spend a weekend building something:

https://mount-it.com/products/mount-it-full-motion-ipad-stand-public-kiosk-display-mi-3771

They make a wall mount case that could be interesting for gigging iPad musicians, as well. It would be a hard metal case that you could screw into a pedal board, for a lower profile setup.

Multicellular

@Processaurus said:
I’m using a iPad stand that was designed as a public kiosk, it is great. It is sturdy and adjustable and the iPad can’t walk off, and I didn’t have to spend a weekend building something:

https://mount-it.com/products/mount-it-full-motion-ipad-stand-public-kiosk-display-mi-3771

They make a wall mount case that could be interesting for gigging iPad musicians, as well. It would be a hard metal case that you could screw into a pedal board, for a lower profile setup.

Cool.

Multicellular

Finished the iPadalboard. Really this is version 2. I wasnt sure about version 1 which had a Akai mini keys...My big fingers are just too much for that.

Ipad stand has a simple aluminum plate hinge setup to allow different tilts. Little screw stoppers under it. Parts from ModernRobotics. Fitting i think.

Modstep is the sequencer app. Use various Au3 plugins for mainly drums and bass, sometimes lead synths or pads, but more the lead synths are done with the Mopho.
MPK225 is set up to play
-the key parts of course and
-drum pads banks are for the main drum plugins (Ruismaker, Ruismaker FM, Virsyn Audio Layer samples which I made with FXPansion BFD, hence SFD lol).
-CCs for the main lead, bass, and pad synths used. You can see the labels. Plus Ruismaker Noir. The 3 banks are a) filters b) delay or reverb c) modulations. Noir is a little off that template but it makes sense to me.

I am still a bit torn with the Mopho. I also have a Minitaur that will fit there. I overall like the sound of the Minitaur better, but the Mopho is so much more versatile and really augments the power of the iPad more. You can also see and name the presets and control the Mopho from the iPad. The Minitaur more just adds really good hands on knob monkeying.

Multicellular

Version 3.0 With an Uno synth and just the iConnect Mio. I moved the Mio2 over to my analog synth rack as I realize it was better to copy the midi to the desktop out of Modstep and record it there instead of from the iPad. And the Mio (1?) then just means fewer things to scroll thru to set up.

Uno Synth v. Mopho v. Minitaur...pros cons....musings:

• Uno sits a bit between the Mopho and Minitaur on the continuum of live knob tweakability and complex capabilities.
• The Mopho has more LFOs, more complex arpeggiator. However, you can route multiple things to the mod knob nicely variably with the Uno which helps a lot and it at least has a good array of LFO waveforms.
• The Uno has a delay that really helps give it an edge for pads.
• In the end, one of the biggest deciding factors was I just couldn't get over the slow response of the Mopho knobs. I also (I realize this is more my issue) with the assignable knobs, I couldn't remember what I'd assigned them to, at practice, and assume would be even worse live. Uno has solid predictable and fast knobs and you can even pick how they work, absolute, take-over, and I forget the 3rd, maybe just relative.
• Like the Mopho, there is an app for iPad for the Uno, can save, name, and back up presets there, and see which you're on, which was a problem with the Minitaur (which can save them, but you have to have a computer or some handwritten list as I had devolved to).
• Sound. Well all of these synths sound good. There is a slight bit of over perfection to the Mopho for me subjectively. The Uno and and Minitaur are closer in heritage, not to say they sound the same, but for example, a/bing them, with similar settings, you could think they were the same synth with different wave form positions (except that the Minitaur doesn't do that). The Mopho, eh, I think I'd know which it was.