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How much has AUV3 negated the whole iOS file system thing?

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  • @Dawdles said:
    Yeah I guess there are a lot of variables from person to person. Can see how easily iPad would be pointless complication/expense for some people.

    Personally I actually quite like the fact that I’m using different instruments than desktop when I’m doing sound design on iPad. Yeah it would be cool to have repro-5, kontakt, diva, serum, vcvrack etc and design for those on portable but using other software gives me some extra variety and keeps things interesting. I know there’s a ton of variety I could dig in to purely on desktop by itself if I wanted to, but apps like tardigrain, Spacecraft, ReSlice, steppolyarp etc app do what they do to a high enough level for me to feel like it’s not time badly spent. Lots of useable stuff comes from them.

    And my audio laptop is pretty bulky. Powerful but relatively huge and totally different from just grabbing my iPad, especially with kids around ;)

    I also have a surface pro, where obviously I could use all the same software I run on desktop, but for some reason I’ve failed to gel with it so far for music. Just doesn’t beckon me to pick it up and do any production related stuff with it. Even with bitwig... maybe just psychological, dunno?! iPad just seems to click for me for what I need from it..

    I understand and i must say that Logic is also the only DAW i really like. The problem is on iOS there is not one DAW i really feel fine to use. Only NanoStudio 2 might change this again. I also think the Obsidian synth is exact what i like to see on iOS.
    I also think that some genres and styles works maybe even much better on an iPad but soundtrack and deep ambient doesn´t belongs to it yet, especially if you want to use a lot acoustic instruments/samples.
    Most important is what you feel when creating music and in iOS it lacks the more immersive and huge cinematic feel i love.
    For synths sounds i think the iOS platform is really great.
    I just realized also that it would be another expensive route for me if i wanted to build on it while i already have everything on mac. So even if i prefer some things on iOS it´s a financial decision as well.

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    @tja said:

    @gonekrazy3000 said:
    I basically bailed on iOS since I got a push2 and ableton 10 is so much fun. Atleast in terms of sequencers. I still use iOS as sound modules though. With Aum and Ica4+ as my audio interface, Auv3 plugins are still quite useful for me.

    Uffff.
    The modstep-man himself left iOS.
    I'm in panic.

    Nah. I still use modstep and iOS for sketching. But just like how people prefer using hardware machines like the electron sequencers I like the Ableton Push a whole lot :)

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    My love of iOS is directly proportionate to my hatred of sitting/standing at a desk and commuting to work.

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    @Dawdles said:

    @gonekrazy3000 said:

    @tja said:

    @gonekrazy3000 said:
    I basically bailed on iOS since I got a push2 and ableton 10 is so much fun. Atleast in terms of sequencers. I still use iOS as sound modules though. With Aum and Ica4+ as my audio interface, Auv3 plugins are still quite useful for me.

    Uffff.
    The modstep-man himself left iOS.
    I'm in panic.

    Nah. I still use modstep and iOS for sketching. But just like how people prefer using hardware machines like the electron sequencers I like the Ableton Push a whole lot :)

    I've barely touched my elektron's since Ableton 10...They nailed it for Push this time.

    Agreed. Was actually contemplating grabbing a digotakt but the new features in ableton specially with the note editors and melodic step sequencer just made the push 2 a must buy for me :D managed to nab one for just 500$ too.

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    @tja said:

    @gonekrazy3000 said:

    @tja said:

    @gonekrazy3000 said:
    I basically bailed on iOS since I got a push2 and ableton 10 is so much fun. Atleast in terms of sequencers. I still use iOS as sound modules though. With Aum and Ica4+ as my audio interface, Auv3 plugins are still quite useful for me.

    Uffff.
    The modstep-man himself left iOS.
    I'm in panic.

    Nah. I still use modstep and iOS for sketching. But just like how people prefer using hardware machines like the electron sequencers I like the Ableton Push a whole lot :)

    Do you have experience with other desktop DAWs?

    I've used fruity loops, cubase, reaper, traktion, studio one as well. But none of them really clicked for me. I've always loved Ableton. It's just so much better now. Also.even when I used iOS a lot Ableton was still my main daw. Didn't have a powerful laptop so used iOS instead when I wasn't home. But now I actually move around with a laptop and a push 2 when I travel.

  • AUv3 makes me thinking about Opendoc: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDoc

  • @bert said:
    AUv3 makes me thinking about Opendoc: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDoc

    Wow that’s a blast from the past 😮

  • To the OP's question (vs the "is iOS ready to replace the desktop?" thread that seems to have come from it): no, I don't think it has.

    I do think the Files app (and related APIs) has largely dampened the quest for a grown-up file system for me. I'm rarely itching to get file X from app A to app B anymore. That might be in part to different workflows with AU though, I'm not exactly sure.

    As brought up in another thread, there remains some issues related to presets and AUs and portability that we still have to contend with. I guess a more open file system would solve it. If inelegantly.

  • @realdawei said:

    @bert said:
    AUv3 makes me thinking about Opendoc: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDoc

    Wow that’s a blast from the past 😮

    I was a big fan of cyberdog and this whole concept, and feel it deserves to succeed if reintroduced.

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    @tja said:

    @gonekrazy3000 said:

    @tja said:

    @gonekrazy3000 said:

    @tja said:

    @gonekrazy3000 said:
    I basically bailed on iOS since I got a push2 and ableton 10 is so much fun. Atleast in terms of sequencers. I still use iOS as sound modules though. With Aum and Ica4+ as my audio interface, Auv3 plugins are still quite useful for me.

    Uffff.
    The modstep-man himself left iOS.
    I'm in panic.

    Nah. I still use modstep and iOS for sketching. But just like how people prefer using hardware machines like the electron sequencers I like the Ableton Push a whole lot :)

    Do you have experience with other desktop DAWs?

    I've used fruity loops, cubase, reaper, traktion, studio one as well. But none of them really clicked for me. I've always loved Ableton. It's just so much better now. Also.even when I used iOS a lot Ableton was still my main daw. Didn't have a powerful laptop so used iOS instead when I wasn't home. But now I actually move around with a laptop and a push 2 when I travel.

    Which version of Ableton do you have?

    Intro? 79 Euro
    Standard? 349 Euro
    Suite? 599 Euro

    I was contemplating Studio One, but they have a strange update strategy ... on the other hand, you cannot even read the update strategy of Ableton without having a login already (and having bought some version already, i suppose).

    But from what i heard, Ableton should be "better" than Studio One ... maybe :blush:

    I have Ableton 10 suite. Got it bundled with my push2 for 736 euro total. Had ableton 10 before by upgrading from 9 but I sold it to a friend when I got this bundle. To be honest ableton without suite is kinda pointless since you miss out on all the gorgeous max4live devices.

    I'll be frank. Ableton is not your usual daw. Its closer to modstep than studio1. It all depends on whether the workflow works for you. I use ableton coz I like to "jam" with myself using the clip view (session mode). I only use the arrangement view when I'm putting together all the "bricks"(clips) I've built into a "structure"(composition).

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  • @tja said:
    @gonekrazy3000 I suppose that you cannot the see rates for upgrades from one version to the next bigger?

    I will try to ask this at Ableton then

    It just shows me that I cannot upgrade my current version further.

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