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Rant about Affinity Photo -adding an image as new layer

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  • lovadamusiclovadamusic

    @tja said:

    @lovadamusic said:
    Photoshop is such an industry standard, and I believe the idea behind Affinity was that it's a Photoshop alternative. It was ported to iOS. Most PS users, myself included, appreciate the similarities, making it quicker to get up to speed. Before buying and getting into a complex program, it's wise to learn some basics about it. See where it comes from and who it's primarily designed for. For someone with no Photoshop experience, there's going to be a learning curve.

    My Photoshop is too old for that „place“ ;)

    I'm too old to remember stuff like that. :) But, yeah, I guess it was introduced somewhere along the way.

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @tja said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @tja said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @tja said:

    Then, i learned that you cannot „insert“ or „load“ an image, nooooo, you need to „place“ it!
    WTF, why you use the word „place“???

    Because you’re placing an image into your project. Makes sense to me.

    I am trying to add a new image as a new layer, which is totally basic in any other App i ever saw on any operating system.

    And none of those Apps ever used the word „place“ for this, realy ;) ;) ;)

    Well Photoshop and Illustrator use place, so I guess it’s a standard for professional users.

    Now, in my Photoshop CS3 Extended from 2007, it is „File / Open“.

    And if using Photoshop denotes someone as „professional“ (which would be wrong), i am just an old professional by your standard ;)

    https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/using/placing-files.html

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  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @tja said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @tja said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @tja said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @tja said:

    Then, i learned that you cannot „insert“ or „load“ an image, nooooo, you need to „place“ it!
    WTF, why you use the word „place“???

    Because you’re placing an image into your project. Makes sense to me.

    I am trying to add a new image as a new layer, which is totally basic in any other App i ever saw on any operating system.

    And none of those Apps ever used the word „place“ for this, realy ;) ;) ;)

    Well Photoshop and Illustrator use place, so I guess it’s a standard for professional users.

    Now, in my Photoshop CS3 Extended from 2007, it is „File / Open“.

    And if using Photoshop denotes someone as „professional“ (which would be wrong), i am just an old professional by your standard ;)

    https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/using/placing-files.html

    And this says us what?

    As i wrote, this is different in CS3 extended.

    Your version uses „place“, mine not.

    I don’t have a problem with that :)

    Just trying to help, you’re the one ranting.

  • ErrkaPettiErrkaPetti
    edited July 2018

    The conclusion of this thread must be:
    If you don’t read the manual you don’t have all the information to use this app...

    Sure, Affinity Photo could be more precise, but, after using it weekly for more than one year now there’s nothing that disturb me any longer...

    $15 for this this amazing app has delivered me a lot of joy and happy moments...

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @ErrkaPetti said:
    The conclusion of this thread must be:
    If you don’t read the manual you don’t have sll the information to use this app...

    Sure, Affinity Photo could be more precise, but, after using it weekly for more than one year now there’s nothing that disturb me any longer...

    $15 for this this amazing app has delivered me a lot of joy and happy moments...

    +1.

  • KeenanKeenan

    On a positive note; for anyone who has both LumaFusion and Affinity Photo, you can create custom LUTs in AP and export to LumaFusion for some pretty decent color-grading for you videos.

    That’s basically why I got Affinity Photo :p

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  • McDtracyMcDtracy
    edited July 2018

    If you guys get me hooked on Drawing Apps I'm going to go into severe credit card debt.
    Isn't there a support group for this type of ranting?

    (Just kidding... I could just ignore you, right? But "rant" pulled me in. I love a good rant.)

    I used to visit the Adobe Offices on business and they made me sign an NDA to get in for meetings. Our lawyers told us NOT to sign NDA's without approval from legal. We had the meetings. I got laid off but for other reasons. I think Adobe did it so anyone couldn't say they added "places" based upon something I said in a meeting in 2010 and I want my cut.
    You make software with a lot of profit and you get sued a lot.

  • ErrkaPettiErrkaPetti

    @tja said:

    @ErrkaPetti said:
    The conclusion of this thread must be:
    If you don’t read the manual you don’t have all the information to use this app...

    Sure, Affinity Photo could be more precise, but, after using it weekly for more than one year now there’s nothing that disturb me any longer...

    $15 for this this amazing app has delivered me a lot of joy and happy moments...

    Yep, that’s true.

    But still, some thing could and should be more intuitive - IMHO.

    I did not rant because i did try something quite complex without reading the manual.
    I tried something totally basic!
    Adding an image as new layer ...

    And BTW, while searching for the explanation, i found pages like this:

    https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/topic/14723-add-image-to-layer/

    So, this happens to more people - a sign that something is not ideal!

    Yeah, there’s a few more users NOT reading the manual...
    It is ten user written on that thread since november 2015 ;-)

    Did you know that Affinity (Serif) has more than 1 million users of Photo/Designer on Win/Mac and iOS?
    If this should be an big topic I’m pretty sure that more than this has been written on this forum about this Place Image...

    Can we all agree at least that Affinity Photo and Designer is fuckin’ great?

  • oldschoolwillieoldschoolwillie
    edited July 2018

    I usually refer to TUTS here you go
    https://creativepro.com/using-affinity-photo-on-the-ipad/

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  • KeenanKeenan

    I’m also curious why apps like Affinity Photo have such amateur sample images when they’re trying to sell a professional geared piece of software. It’s totally underselling their product and it’s capabilities.

    Also apps that are kickass but then their UI or even app icon make it look like a joke.. always a shame.

    Anyway that’s my rant for the evening! :D

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]
    edited July 2018

    @tja said:

    @ErrkaPetti said:

    @tja said:

    @ErrkaPetti said:
    The conclusion of this thread must be:
    If you don’t read the manual you don’t have all the information to use this app...

    Sure, Affinity Photo could be more precise, but, after using it weekly for more than one year now there’s nothing that disturb me any longer...

    $15 for this this amazing app has delivered me a lot of joy and happy moments...

    Yep, that’s true.

    But still, some thing could and should be more intuitive - IMHO.

    I did not rant because i did try something quite complex without reading the manual.
    I tried something totally basic!
    Adding an image as new layer ...

    And BTW, while searching for the explanation, i found pages like this:

    https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/topic/14723-add-image-to-layer/

    So, this happens to more people - a sign that something is not ideal!

    Yeah, there’s a few more users NOT reading the manual...
    It is ten user written on that thread since november 2015 ;-)

    Did you know that Affinity (Serif) has more than 1 million users of Photo/Designer on Win/Mac and iOS?
    If this should be an big topic I’m pretty sure that more than this has been written on this forum about this Place Image...

    Can we all agree at least that Affinity Photo and Designer is fuckin’ great?

    Of course!!! :)

    Look at my screenshot, they are on top in their respective stack of Apps!

    BTW, there just is no manual for the iPad, if you want a PDF like i do - just the In App documentation, which i hate like nothing.

    OK, someone created a PDF but this is already old ....

    And the existing documentation for the desktop does not realy help, as things vary on the iPad!

    You see, RTFM is not even such easy, currently.
    The company should finally deliver a manual, as PDF!
    This would help ;)

    To be honest, i could not even find an official online manual!
    Only some private pages in „beta“ state:

    https://affinity.help/photo/en-US.lproj/index.html
    https://affinity.help/designer/en-US.lproj/index.html

    Not sure how current this is ... and it’s not on one page and therefor not searchable, which a manual needs.

    Click the playlist part of the link, there’s 36 tutorials there, which you can also access via the app.

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  • cabocabo

    another 230 videos on 20 pages here:
    https://vimeo.com/channels/affinityphoto

  • ErrkaPettiErrkaPetti
    edited July 2018

    @oldschoolwillie said:
    I usually refer to TUTS here you go
    https://creativepro.com/using-affinity-photo-on-the-ipad/

    Be careful, one of the commentators on this Tut said that there’s no Pen Tool like in Photoshop (in Affinity Photo)...?
    As I remembered this tool was there from day one...

    When I revisiting this Tut again I discovered that it was the author himself that has this comments:

    “No, there’s no equivalent to Photoshop’s Pen Tool in Photo for iPad. It’s one of the very few Photoshop tools that Photo doesn’t support.”

    WTF?

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  • CracklePotCracklePot

    I think I will just stick with music. :D

  • bertbert

    @tja Look at the first posting at the following page where someone is giving a link for all the help files contained within one PDF: https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/topic/34556-affinity-photo-pdf-manual-for-your-enjoyment/

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  • bertbert

    @tja said:

    @bert said:
    @tja Look at the first posting at the following page where someone is giving a link for all the help files contained within one PDF: https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/topic/34556-affinity-photo-pdf-manual-for-your-enjoyment/

    Yep, thanks - i mentioned this already above ("OK, someone created a PDF but this is already old ....")
    It is now 1,5 years old.

    I was expecting Serif to provide a searchable, offline manual, a current PDF.
    That would be good!

    Can't imagine they don't have it ready already in some or other form. Saw that hardcopy book: https://affinity.serif.com/en-gb/designer/workbook/ but according to some it is a bit simplistic.

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  • lovadamusiclovadamusic

    @tja said:

    @ErrkaPetti said:
    The conclusion of this thread must be:
    If you don’t read the manual you don’t have all the information to use this app...

    Sure, Affinity Photo could be more precise, but, after using it weekly for more than one year now there’s nothing that disturb me any longer...

    $15 for this this amazing app has delivered me a lot of joy and happy moments...

    Yep, that’s true.

    But still, some thing could and should be more intuitive - IMHO.

    I did not rant because i did try something quite complex without reading the manual.
    I tried something totally basic!
    Adding an image as new layer ...

    And BTW, while searching for the explanation, i found pages like this:

    https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/topic/14723-add-image-to-layer/

    So, this happens to more people - a sign that something is not ideal!

    I think a point missed is that doing something totally basic here is easy if you know how to do it. :) I find that many iOS apps are not that intuitive, but my intuition was developed long before iPads existed. There is information for Affinity all over the place for even the iPad version, including documentation and tutorials in the app itself.

    This is a powerful photo and graphics app. The low cost possibly contributes to some cutting corners here and there. I've used Photoshop for many years, and I needed to take some time to start getting into this on iOS. I don't spend that much time with it, so I don't know everything. Mainly, the concepts are the same. I watched a bunch of videos to get an idea of where everything was. If you don't invest the time to learn the general ways the app works, sometimes it might not be so quick to figure out how a specific task is accomplished. It's still quite an app for the money.

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @tja said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @tja said:

    @ErrkaPetti said:

    @tja said:

    @ErrkaPetti said:
    The conclusion of this thread must be:
    If you don’t read the manual you don’t have all the information to use this app...

    Sure, Affinity Photo could be more precise, but, after using it weekly for more than one year now there’s nothing that disturb me any longer...

    $15 for this this amazing app has delivered me a lot of joy and happy moments...

    Yep, that’s true.

    But still, some thing could and should be more intuitive - IMHO.

    I did not rant because i did try something quite complex without reading the manual.
    I tried something totally basic!
    Adding an image as new layer ...

    And BTW, while searching for the explanation, i found pages like this:

    https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/topic/14723-add-image-to-layer/

    So, this happens to more people - a sign that something is not ideal!

    Yeah, there’s a few more users NOT reading the manual...
    It is ten user written on that thread since november 2015 ;-)

    Did you know that Affinity (Serif) has more than 1 million users of Photo/Designer on Win/Mac and iOS?
    If this should be an big topic I’m pretty sure that more than this has been written on this forum about this Place Image...

    Can we all agree at least that Affinity Photo and Designer is fuckin’ great?

    Of course!!! :)

    Look at my screenshot, they are on top in their respective stack of Apps!

    BTW, there just is no manual for the iPad, if you want a PDF like i do - just the In App documentation, which i hate like nothing.

    OK, someone created a PDF but this is already old ....

    And the existing documentation for the desktop does not realy help, as things vary on the iPad!

    You see, RTFM is not even such easy, currently.
    The company should finally deliver a manual, as PDF!
    This would help ;)

    To be honest, i could not even find an official online manual!
    Only some private pages in „beta“ state:

    https://affinity.help/photo/en-US.lproj/index.html
    https://affinity.help/designer/en-US.lproj/index.html

    Not sure how current this is ... and it’s not on one page and therefor not searchable, which a manual needs.

    Again, what do you want to tell me?

    This is not a manual, it’s a series of videos!

    A manual is searchable and you can easily look up something that you need in that moment - i sure would not want to watch hours of videos instead just to get the answer for a small question.

    And of course, OFFLINE, so you can do this while on train. As i said, a PDF.

    But you know that already and just want to gamble with me ;)

    You’re welcome.

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