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New iPad Pros drop headphone Jack.

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  • MobileMusicMobileMusic
    edited July 2018

    @MobileMusic said:

    @[Deleted User] said:

    @Samu said:

    @david_2017 said:
    ... even the PRO section represented with the MacBooks pro. almost nothing to connect. reducing the I/O is their mantra

    But why did they keep the 3.5mm jack on the MacBook Pro's if wireless is really 'the future' ??

    Sometimes I just wish BT would go away and be a bad dream. It's a sucky standard and will never accomplish next to latency free (comparable to wired connection) uncompressed audio.

    I guess people accept the 'latency' to avoid wires (and have more stuff to charge) but for realtime usage it's just argghhhhhh....

    Agreed, for a musician latency is a true killer. BT will never reach the low latency of wired connection.

    Also, the sound quality degrades by the time it reaches the Bluetooth speaker and gets reproduced.

    For listening/playback, BT's latency doesn't matter. For playing along is where it does. I produce music on my BT speaker wired by connecting to it using a cord without latency and no issues listening to the produced music later wirelessly with latency.

    The reason Apple retained the jack on the Mac maybe indicates they have no intention to remove it from iPad where there is so much room. In fact, they could add an extra dedicated MIDI jack to iPad Pro so the headphone jack is free to use with a synth connected to it! I'm filing a hardware enhancement bug report on http://bugreport.apple.com/

    Feel free to do so that they realize the demand for a MIDI jack on Pro.

    Done suggesting to Apple:

    Bug # 42696285
    A dedicated MIDI jack on iPad

    Please add a dedicated MIDI jack on iPad so we could connect a hardware synth while leaving the headphone jack and power socket free for other uses. At the least, please add this MIDI jack to iPad PRO (if not all iPads) as there is so much room.

    Also, please keep the headphone jack on iPad as there is so much room available for it.

  • MobileMusicMobileMusic
    edited July 2018

    @Samu said:

    @MobileMusic said:

    Feel free to do so that they realize the demand for a MIDI jack on Pro.

    I'd say an extra USB-C or Lightning Port is more welcome as most of my keyboards and controllers already hook up using USB and if I need 5-Pin midi I can hook them to my UR-242.

    I have already filed for proper Mass-Storage support using the Apple CCK (ie. make all content of the SD-Card/USB-Adapter visible thru the FIles.app).

    The 'smart connector' is also quite meh at the moment since it's unknown if it's a 'fast' bus or if it can be used for charging and attaching other 'smart' devices such as hubs with other connection.

    Added a comment to the above bug report as under:

    "Or an extra USB-C or Lightning Port may be added to iPad regular/Pro."

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  • MobileMusicMobileMusic
    edited July 2018

    @Samu said:

    @MobileMusic said:

    Feel free to do so that they realize the demand for a MIDI jack on Pro.

    I'd say an extra USB-C or Lightning Port is more welcome as most of my keyboards and controllers already hook up using USB and if I need 5-Pin midi I can hook them to my UR-242.

    I have already filed for proper Mass-Storage support using the Apple CCK (ie. make all content of the SD-Card/USB-Adapter visible thru the FIles.app).

    The 'smart connector' is also quite meh at the moment since it's unknown if it's a 'fast' bus or if it can be used for charging and attaching other 'smart' devices such as hubs with other connection.

    Done again with a new bug report!

    Bug # 42696330
    An extra USB-C or Lightning Port to iPad

    Please add An extra USB-C or Lightning Port on iPad so we could connect a hardware synth while leaving the headphone jack and power socket free for other uses. At the least, please add this to iPad PRO (if not all iPads) as there is so much room.

    Also, please keep the headphone jack on iPad as there is so much room available for it.

    If they decide to do it, they would decide which format jack.

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  • MobileMusicMobileMusic
    edited July 2018

    @Dawdles said:

    @MobileMusic said:

    @Samu said:

    @MobileMusic said:

    Feel free to do so that they realize the demand for a MIDI jack on Pro.

    I'd say an extra USB-C or Lightning Port is more welcome as most of my keyboards and controllers already hook up using USB and if I need 5-Pin midi I can hook them to my UR-242.

    I have already filed for proper Mass-Storage support using the Apple CCK (ie. make all content of the SD-Card/USB-Adapter visible thru the FIles.app).

    The 'smart connector' is also quite meh at the moment since it's unknown if it's a 'fast' bus or if it can be used for charging and attaching other 'smart' devices such as hubs with other connection.

    Done again with a new bug report!

    Bug # 42696330
    An extra USB-C or Lightning Port to iPad

    Please add An extra USB-C or Lightning Port on iPad so we could connect a hardware synth while leaving the headphone jack and power socket free for other uses. At the least, please add this to iPad PRO (if not all iPads) as there is so much room.

    Also, please keep the headphone jack on iPad as there is so much room available for it.

    If they decide to do it, they would decide which format jack.

    So many letters to Santa.... alas...

    Bug # for MIDI jack: 42696285
    Bug # for USB-C jack: 42696330

    45 bugs got submitted in less than 5 minutes to Apple - on a weekend! See how many bugs Apple has? :smiley:
    No, it is not incremental value of 5 for each bug submitted because my earlier bugs submitted are numbered like 42639223 (GarageBand iOS Export as MIDI missing).

    There is always another bug!

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]
    edited July 2018
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  • hisdudenesshisdudeness

    @richardyot said:
    This is still speculation at this point though, let's wait for an official announcement. IF they do go through with this though, it's a really dumb move, and terrible for musicians, because 90% of MIDI keyboards will no longer work with the iPad, unless you want to listen through the built-in speaker.

    absolutely correct, really kills the plug and play option.. also my old gear irig mic, irg guitar, blue mic etc has been made redundant due lack of headphone output to listen ....also if u wanna play your iphone songs at your buddys place, well no adaptor no play

  • oat_phippsoat_phipps

    If true, these guys at Apple are a bunch of goofballs. What's their philosophy behind removing it? Just to have a sleeker package with one less hole?

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @oat_phipps said:
    If true, these guys at Apple are a bunch of goofballs. What's their philosophy behind removing it? Just to have a sleeker package with one less hole?

    Selling AirPods and dongles.

  • 9947659832699476598326

    Feel free to do so that they realize the demand for a MIDI jack on Pro.

    Lol. The amount of people that use music apps is so minuscule compared to normal users.

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @99476598326 said:

    Feel free to do so that they realize the demand for a MIDI jack on Pro.

    Lol. The amount of people that use music apps is so minuscule compared to normal users.

    So you say we are not normal? ;) :)

  • brambosbrambos

    @Cib said:

    @99476598326 said:

    Feel free to do so that they realize the demand for a MIDI jack on Pro.

    Lol. The amount of people that use music apps is so minuscule compared to normal users.

    So you say we are not normal? ;) :)

    I would estimate the demand for a Hello Kitty version of the iPad Pro to be 50000 times higher than the demand for a MIDI jack.

  • david_2017david_2017

    @brambos said:

    @Cib said:

    @99476598326 said:

    Feel free to do so that they realize the demand for a MIDI jack on Pro.

    Lol. The amount of people that use music apps is so minuscule compared to normal users.

    So you say we are not normal? ;) :)

    I would estimate the demand for a Hello Kitty version of the iPad Pro to be 50000 times higher than the demand for a MIDI jack.

    This dude has a point.

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    First leak of the new iPad Pro´s.....

  • knewspeakknewspeak

    @brambos said:

    @Cib said:

    @99476598326 said:

    Feel free to do so that they realize the demand for a MIDI jack on Pro.

    Lol. The amount of people that use music apps is so minuscule compared to normal users.

    So you say we are not normal? ;) :)

    I would estimate the demand for a Hello Kitty version of the iPad Pro to be 50000 times higher than the demand for a MIDI jack.

    So I guess, 'Pussy eats Pop'

  • NorbertNorbert

    @knewspeak said:

    @brambos said:

    @Cib said:

    @99476598326 said:

    Feel free to do so that they realize the demand for a MIDI jack on Pro.

    Lol. The amount of people that use music apps is so minuscule compared to normal users.

    So you say we are not normal? ;) :)

    I would estimate the demand for a Hello Kitty version of the iPad Pro to be 50000 times higher than the demand for a MIDI jack.

    So I guess, 'Pussy eats Pop'

    Meanwhile, the reverse is also true: 'Pop eats Pussy' XD

  • MobileMusicMobileMusic

    @MobileMusic said:

    @Dawdles said:

    @MobileMusic said:

    @Samu said:

    @MobileMusic said:

    Feel free to do so that they realize the demand for a MIDI jack on Pro.

    I'd say an extra USB-C or Lightning Port is more welcome as most of my keyboards and controllers already hook up using USB and if I need 5-Pin midi I can hook them to my UR-242.

    I have already filed for proper Mass-Storage support using the Apple CCK (ie. make all content of the SD-Card/USB-Adapter visible thru the FIles.app).

    The 'smart connector' is also quite meh at the moment since it's unknown if it's a 'fast' bus or if it can be used for charging and attaching other 'smart' devices such as hubs with other connection.

    Done again with a new bug report!

    Bug # 42696330
    An extra USB-C or Lightning Port to iPad

    Please add An extra USB-C or Lightning Port on iPad so we could connect a hardware synth while leaving the headphone jack and power socket free for other uses. At the least, please add this to iPad PRO (if not all iPads) as there is so much room.

    Also, please keep the headphone jack on iPad as there is so much room available for it.

    If they decide to do it, they would decide which format jack.

    So many letters to Santa.... alas...

    Bug # for MIDI jack: 42696285
    Bug # for USB-C jack: 42696330

    45 bugs got submitted in less than 5 minutes to Apple - on a weekend! See how many bugs Apple has? :smiley:
    No, it is not incremental value of 5 for each bug submitted because my earlier bugs submitted are numbered like 42639223 (GarageBand iOS Export as MIDI missing).

    There is always another bug!

    Apple's response:

    42696285 - A dedicated MIDI jack on iPad
    Please note that this channel only accepts bug reports filed against Apple software.

    For issues pertaining to product design, we ask that you contact one of our Feedback teams at:

    http://www.apple.com/feedback/

    or:

    http://www.apple.com/contact/

    Thank you for your understanding.

    We consider this issue closed.

    Strange! This is also a hardware issue but they have reviewed and closed it. It's unclear what they are going to do about it (maybe, they would consider it? :smile:):

    42696330 - An extra USB-C or Lightning Port to iPad

    Thanks for your feedback, we have reviewed it.

    No response, yet on this one:

    42639223 - GarageBand iOS Export as MIDI missing

    My submission of bulk bugs in 4 single tickets were closed by Apple saying I need to resubmit them individually:

    https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/comment/523862#Comment_523862

  • MobileMusicMobileMusic
    edited August 2018

    @MobileMusic said:

    @MobileMusic said:

    @Dawdles said:

    @MobileMusic said:

    @Samu said:

    @MobileMusic said:

    Feel free to do so that they realize the demand for a MIDI jack on Pro.

    I'd say an extra USB-C or Lightning Port is more welcome as most of my keyboards and controllers already hook up using USB and if I need 5-Pin midi I can hook them to my UR-242.

    I have already filed for proper Mass-Storage support using the Apple CCK (ie. make all content of the SD-Card/USB-Adapter visible thru the FIles.app).

    The 'smart connector' is also quite meh at the moment since it's unknown if it's a 'fast' bus or if it can be used for charging and attaching other 'smart' devices such as hubs with other connection.

    Done again with a new bug report!

    Bug # 42696330
    An extra USB-C or Lightning Port to iPad

    Please add An extra USB-C or Lightning Port on iPad so we could connect a hardware synth while leaving the headphone jack and power socket free for other uses. At the least, please add this to iPad PRO (if not all iPads) as there is so much room.

    Also, please keep the headphone jack on iPad as there is so much room available for it.

    If they decide to do it, they would decide which format jack.

    So many letters to Santa.... alas...

    Bug # for MIDI jack: 42696285
    Bug # for USB-C jack: 42696330

    45 bugs got submitted in less than 5 minutes to Apple - on a weekend! See how many bugs Apple has? :smiley:
    No, it is not incremental value of 5 for each bug submitted because my earlier bugs submitted are numbered like 42639223 (GarageBand iOS Export as MIDI missing).

    There is always another bug!

    Apple's response:

    42696285 - A dedicated MIDI jack on iPad
    Please note that this channel only accepts bug reports filed against Apple software.

    For issues pertaining to product design, we ask that you contact one of our Feedback teams at:

    http://www.apple.com/feedback/

    or:

    http://www.apple.com/contact/

    Thank you for your understanding.

    We consider this issue closed.

    Strange! This is also a hardware issue but they have reviewed and closed it. It's unclear what they are going to do about it (maybe, they would consider it? :smile:):

    42696330 - An extra USB-C or Lightning Port to iPad

    Thanks for your feedback, we have reviewed it.

    No response, yet on this one:

    42639223 - GarageBand iOS Export as MIDI missing

    My submission of bulk bugs in 4 single tickets were closed by Apple saying I need to resubmit them individually:

    https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/comment/523862#Comment_523862

    Okay, re-submitted the hardware feature requests about USB-C / Lightning Port anyway here:

    https://www.apple.com/feedback/
    https://www.apple.com/feedback/ipad.html

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