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Patterning 2 where are the library drum kits/sample files on my iPad?

[Deleted User][Deleted User]
in General App Discussion

Get get no reply from the dev so can anyone point me the right direction please?

Comments

  • DCJDCJ

    From what I understand they’re not accessible even with files enabled.

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    Mmmm, so if I download one of the drum kits they offer I do not have the rights to the folder where it is stored but it is stored on my iPad?

  • wimwim

    I believe that’s the case. Everything is stored in a database which is part of the program itself.

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    I see, maybe its not for me then.

  • Artefact2001Artefact2001

    @[Deleted User] I believe the sample file directory is not accessible due to a deal with the 3rd parties who created the initial kits. An easy work around is to place a hit on the first beat of every track and export as a single bar, with separated tracks. I really wouldn’t let this put you off a very deep and unique app, it’s a drum machine not a sample library after all :)

  • LeonKowalskiLeonKowalski

    @Artefact2001 said:
    @[Deleted User] I believe the sample file directory is not accessible due to a deal with the 3rd parties who created the initial kits. An easy work around is to place a hit on the first beat of every track and export as a single bar, with separated tracks. I really wouldn’t let this put you off a very deep and unique app, it’s a drum machine not a sample library after all :)

    Well explained. I just wanted to tell about the „workaround“, but I would have needed many more words... :blush:

  • scottsunnscottsunn
    edited July 2018

    So... I too would like to import all my P1 stuff, most of it is sample libraries I imported from AudioShare, but I want to bring in all my songs etc as well... Has anyone had success or troubles getting their P1 songs into P2? I will dive in and see what I can figure out myself, but would love anyone's tips. Cheers.

    *Edit: Finally got into the manual .pdf file, trying export from p1 / import to p2, will report back...

  • scottsunnscottsunn

    Success!!

    So I ended up using my macbook to do the database transfer, but prob able to do it internally as well, but here is my process:

    1. In P1, make a 'backup' of your database (from the file page, bottom left)
    2. On your macbook, launch itunes w/ ipad connected, file sharing, P1, drag database to desktop.
    3. Next select P2 in itunes (laptop), drag database from desktop to P2 fileshare folder.
    4. Launch P2, go to file / database / import
    5. Restart P2, you should have all your songs / samples...

    Cheers!!

  • oat_phippsoat_phipps

    @scottsunn said:
    Success!!

    So I ended up using my macbook to do the database transfer, but prob able to do it internally as well, but here is my process:

    1. In P1, make a 'backup' of your database (from the file page, bottom left)
    2. On your macbook, launch itunes w/ ipad connected, file sharing, P1, drag database to desktop.
    3. Next select P2 in itunes (laptop), drag database from desktop to P2 fileshare folder.
    4. Launch P2, go to file / database / import
    5. Restart P2, you should have all your songs / samples... Cheers!!

    Be prepared to find many missing samples, unless your transfer magically worked. Mine was 2 gigs and a ton of them were missing. As a result, I just manually loaded everything again. All is well.

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    I can’t stand not owning the material I use and I want access to all the samples on my hardware. I will PM the dev again so I can understand exactly how this works.

  • scottsunnscottsunn

    I'm noticing that a lot of my kits are not correct... true. Seem to be defaulting to only a couple of them. Luckily, most of the samples were from my own library (not the cloud kits), so most of them are there.

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]
    edited July 2018

    @Artefact2001 said:
    @[Deleted User] I believe the sample file directory is not accessible due to a deal with the 3rd parties who created the initial kits. An easy work around is to place a hit on the first beat of every track and export as a single bar, with separated tracks. I really wouldn’t let this put you off a very deep and unique app, it’s a drum machine not a sample library after all :)

    hey man, thanks for the intel. The Dev kindly contacted me and you are correct. I don't like not having access to the source samples of the drum kits I myself create in patterning or no access to the files on my ipad. These third party created kits should either be IAP's or fully free but open source. I have no issue with either way.

  • JRSIVJRSIV

    @oat_phipps said:
    Be prepared to find many missing samples, unless your transfer magically worked. Mine was 2 gigs and a ton of them were missing. As a result, I just manually loaded everything again. All is well.

    Me & @oat_phipps touched on the database import/export issues awhile back in another thread, and I too just manually copied everything over to P2 with the individual song & kit export to open in->P2.

    When I first saw that the P2 sample files aren't accessible in the files app/iCloud it gave me pause to erase the Patterning 1 app/data-there's no data sharing going on correct? The individual kit exports done from P1 to P2 actually copied the files over right?

    Just making sure before I delete P1...

  • scottsunnscottsunn

    @JRSIV said:

    @oat_phipps said:
    Be prepared to find many missing samples, unless your transfer magically worked. Mine was 2 gigs and a ton of them were missing. As a result, I just manually loaded everything again. All is well.

    Me & @oat_phipps touched on the database import/export issues awhile back in another thread, and I too just manually copied everything over to P2 with the individual song & kit export to open in->P2.

    When I first saw that the P2 sample files aren't accessible in the files app/iCloud it gave me pause to erase the Patterning 1 app/data-there's no data sharing going on correct? The individual kit exports done from P1 to P2 actually copied the files over right?

    Just making sure before I delete P1...

    You need to first export your P1 database, then COPY it (not move it) over to the P2 side and import.

  • JRSIVJRSIV

    @scottsunn said:
    You need to first export your P1 database, then COPY it (not move it) over to the P2 side and import.

    @scottsunn The first part of my post wasn’t clear enough I think, I apologize. The database export from P1 to import database in P2 was something I have done. What I referenced by mentioning @oat_phipps is that when I did the database export several kits had missing samples, which happened to @oat_phipps too.

    After trying it with the iTunes program ‘iTunesFileSharing’ as well as the iFunBox method several times I could never get the database to transfer (export/import) over smoothly. So I then went and did each song & each kit one by one. For example the kits has a share option, you choose that and .zip file export, then the “Open In” window pops up and there’s a “Copy to Patterning 2” option.

    Since I’ve done this with everything from P1, yet can’t actually view the imported samples in the Files app or iCloud, I want to just get 100% confirmation that my P1app & data is fine to delete and not somehow connected with P2 is some sandbox sharing deal.

    I hope my concern is easier to grasp now...I’ll also ask in the Olympia Noise forum. Thanks brother...

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