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Let’s talk song creation.

So I used to be on the desktop,I might have 5-7 ideas tracks going. Now I’m 100% on iOS and I find my self solely stuck on 1 track. Got to finish this tune before I move on. Of course then I tweak the crap out of it for 3 months. LOL.

What do you all find the best. 1 song at a time, or have multiple bits going on?

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  • edited August 2018

    I always have several ideas growing at the same time, perhaps 10 or more. When one idea has something I really like, I make a full song with it. Can be one or two ideas on ten. Most of them will not become anything more, but there are really useful to learn apps but more importantly my own sound.

    So it’s not a problem to « only » have ideas. But sometimes it’s necessary to turn on turbo mode and push an idea to a full track.

    This is where it’s very important to have a advanced knowledge of apps we use. iOS is like a jungle, there is no traced route. Each musician have to find its own workflow, pepending on its specific musical, ergonomy and brain preferences, but also what kind of music/genres he wants to achieve. Being familiar with basic tools like AB/AUM/ApeM, midi routing, freezing/merging is also so important. This is again where IMO sketching ideas plays a major role in being able to finish a song on iOS platform: it’s practicing!!

    I can start an idea and it becomes a full track many months later, and had dozens of other ideas during this time or even have finished other tracks.

  • I usually have 2 or 3 sketches on the go, but I always, always, always finish at least one complete song (including vocals) every month. I also try and edit as ruthlessly as I can: write lots of stuff and discard around 80% of it.

  • Brains will vary for me over time. I used to have several ideas at a time, knocking out what I could halfway and then jumping over to the other idea, sketching something out. Lately I start with absolutely NO idea at all, throwing down guitars, drums, synths, basses whatever and crank up the Microphone and start singing with absolutely no idea what I’m about to say or what the melody is going to be, all in one take. I’m a hell of a lot more productive this way (4 or 5 songs done this month), and I actually like 90% of what has come out. I guess when I used to think ahead of time I wasted a lot of time sweating out the “perfect song” .

  • 100s of ideas. Usually just little jams to play drums to and once every few weeks/months I will cherry pick some good stuff and discard the rest.

    Occasionally the vibe is right and I'll smash out a whole track in one go. If I'm actually writing a song (pop format) I do it at the piano or on acoustic guitar with the iPad being a basic recorder and drum machine.

  • I’ve always got a bunch of riffs, chord progressions, vocal melodies, etc. floating about in Auria and AudioShare. Some ideas get finished quickly, but I like having bits and pieces around for a middle 8 or a chorus when I need one.

  • I keep it to one main song that I come back to frequently. It’s a good idea to leave it alone and approach it with fresh eyes and ears so multiple tracks is the best way to go provided you make the effort to actually complete a song, even if it’s imperfect.

  • I’m not astounded, but yet again taken by surprise (as expected) at how much of the pie the vocals occupy. My current album project (which I really really really want to be already released by now) was pretty much wrapped up in terms of composition and music and recording and mixing, back in May when I was starting on the lyrics. It has taken until now to get vocal performances I’m happy with.

  • I've been on iOS since about May or so, mostly I have been learning learning learning... I have made one actual 'song' in BM3, however I've been having most fun just setting up a little 'ditty' in Aum or Ape, then recording when I have some parameters to adjust and it sounds good-ish. It has been time well spent, and I like some of the things I've recorded, but eventually I am going to really zero in on a few ideas and flesh them out. Probably next month, as I have a show in October. Best of luck!!

  • I'm back on Ios since juli. I tried several years ago to make songs on the Ipad, bit found it too frustrating.

    Now I came back, bought Gadget and Cubasis and some synths. I find myself being able finish Gadget tracks quite easy. I made several on my 2 week holiday. Finished 1 of them....finishing the rest in next 2 weeks.

    I can't seem to start finish things in cubasis yet.......but it seems that the learning curve for the host and hosted apps is much teeper than Gagdet is.

  • edited August 2018

    I am stuck in the idea of albums. Like, I'm not actually recording until I have an EP or LP length. I know this is no longer reasonable.

    But I enjoy things like deciding on song order, album concept & art.

    Though knowing it is an outdated idea, it does offer certain efficiencies. For example, when I use the same drum set across a set of songs, a certain array of guitar pedals, or amps, a set of synths, I start accumulating album specific effect and mix presets (which are often variations on more basic presets).

    And I know I sound like I'm talking recording not just creating or writing. But my creation process is usually a more skeletal version that the band can play live and it isn't fully 'created', all arranged, until we get to recording.

  • @Multicellular said:
    I am stuck in the idea of albums. Like, I'm not actually recording until I have an EP or LP length. I know this is no longer reasonable.

    But I enjoy things like deciding on song order, album concept & art.

    Though knowing it is an outdated idea, it does offer certain efficiencies. For example, when I use the same drum set across a set of songs, a certain array of guitar pedals, or amps, a set of synths, I start accumulating album specific effect and mix presets (which are often variations on more basic presets).

    Similarly, my ideal is to do tons of sketching all the time and then when it comes time for 'the album' I take the sketches that work well together (usually spanning years) and then take elements from them and cross pollinate across the neighbors. One may have a certain bass figured out, so that becomes the guidepost for the other tracks next passes. Another has a certain texture or idea that gets sprinkled on some or blasted on others, depending on it's place in the overall album. I also would then make a few new tracks but with the organised sketches working as a template and it was so cool how quickly they could come about given that the direction is more established. Been a long time since I have done it and certainly not in this current era (last six years or so), but I look forward to actually getting back to it. I think I am waiting for my mobile RnD to settle down a little more so I can figure out how to maximize my time. Older I get the more precious time is, the more panicky I get about it, heh/sob/etc.

  • What are you doing in a typical iOS session?

    What differs from former?

  • The Fall – How I Wrote Elastic Man

  • I entered the iOS scene to copy down classical ensemble music I had in my mind. Previously I just used paper...
    Getting to hear a piece of music after, and sometimes during creation, is a new luxury for us mentalists.
    The Apple-Pencil is the game changer for me.

    I can work on as many projects at one time as I like... sometimes they bleed over.
    When I copy down I must have silence, as I have to kinda hear things in my head without distractions...

    Using Notion at the moment, this is my technique.

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