(OT) Any maschine/komplete users?

AudioGus

Mmm, looking at the dimensions Maschine could go awesome with my couch setup. Sell the Circuit... almost half way there... hmmm...

JohnnyGoodyear

@AudioGus said:
Mmm, looking at the dimensions Maschine could go awesome with my couch setup. Sell the Circuit... almost half way there... hmmm...

Please get on with this, preferably before end of November. Be useful for me to have extra data points etc. Kthx.

AudioGus

@JohnnyGoodyear said:

@AudioGus said:
Mmm, looking at the dimensions Maschine could go awesome with my couch setup. Sell the Circuit... almost half way there... hmmm...

Please get on with this, preferably before end of November. Be useful for me to have extra data points etc. Kthx.

I’ll tell the wife.

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@greengrocer said:

@JohnnyGoodyear said:

@MonzoPro said:

@kobamoto said:
^^ that was the best route for me too Monzo, but the potential for maschine to be a complete solution is/was so high it just grated on my nerves .... I do hope the mk3 works out for you though.

Just to update this: I got the Mk3 a couple of months back, and absolutely love it. Still learning, but aside from full audio tracks, you can pretty much do everything from this thing, from sampling, to arranging and mixing.

Favourite things:

Love the built in audio interface, which means I can just plug a mic or guitar in the back and play or sample straight away. Plus I use it instead of my laptop audio for zero latency. I use the stereo ins to capture the iPad.

Sample editing is fast and accurate, and the manual mode for chopping and assigning slices to pads very quick.

Pattern editing - I find it quicker, and more accurate via the controller than using the laptop, which was a surprise.

Instrument browser - excellent visual browser for checking through presets, with my VST’s also supported.

Ten out of ten for this thing, never thought I’d like it as much as I do, but it’s now at the heart of my music making workflow.

Good review, especially knowing that you are a hard/thoughtful bear to fool etc. One remaining area of uncertainty for me would be the fact that I don't (as of today) use any pc/mac based DAW. I have FL on my desktop but just haven't bothered with it. Is it fun/practical to use the MK3 on its own/just with iPad or am I completely missing the point here...?

Agree. I not really into hardware controllers, but knowning the vast range of software NI produces and some of the stuff well integrated with their Maschine hardware I can imagine that it works fast and well.
btw I know a few people using Ableton and had a Push 1/2 but they all sold it after a while, because they were completely used to Abelton on computer/ laptop and saw the Push as a slugish and slow tool.
Question to @MonzoPro is Maschine 3 really intuitive and fast aspecially when going through the menu's, editing samples and fxs?

I can’t see how they could improve sample editing - chopping samples is super fast, and you can zoom in with the rotary knobs for ultra precise editing. I’ll post a video later.

There is some sub-menu action requiring a shift-click of the Mk3, but generally no worse than using a desktop, and in most cases better.

As well as a visual representation of the plugin, the two screens allow you to drill down through sub sections of patches, listing them via bass, lead, arpeggiated etc., and via clever trickery all patches pre-load with an instant audio sample, so you can audition each patch before loading.

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@JohnnyGoodyear said:

@MonzoPro said:

@JohnnyGoodyear said:

@MonzoPro said:

@kobamoto said:
^^ that was the best route for me too Monzo, but the potential for maschine to be a complete solution is/was so high it just grated on my nerves .... I do hope the mk3 works out for you though.

Just to update this: I got the Mk3 a couple of months back, and absolutely love it. Still learning, but aside from full audio tracks, you can pretty much do everything from this thing, from sampling, to arranging and mixing.

Favourite things:

Love the built in audio interface, which means I can just plug a mic or guitar in the back and play or sample straight away. Plus I use it instead of my laptop audio for zero latency. I use the stereo ins to capture the iPad.

Sample editing is fast and accurate, and the manual mode for chopping and assigning slices to pads very quick.

Pattern editing - I find it quicker, and more accurate via the controller than using the laptop, which was a surprise.

Instrument browser - excellent visual browser for checking through presets, with my VST’s also supported.

Ten out of ten for this thing, never thought I’d like it as much as I do, but it’s now at the heart of my music making workflow.

Good review, especially knowing that you are a hard/thoughtful bear to fool etc. One remaining area of uncertainty for me would be the fact that I don't (as of today) use any pc/mac based DAW. I have FL on my desktop but just haven't bothered with it. Is it fun/practical to use the MK3 on its own/just with iPad or am I completely missing the point here...?

It really comes into its own when used with the Maschine DAW software, but I equally use it to play Komplete and other VST’s live into Reason, and record them that way.

It is a MIDI controller though, so theoretically should be mappable to desktop and iPad software. I’ve only just got the psu though, so haven’t tested out iPad control yet. I’ll try and remember to test it out tomorrow and report my findings.

Bear in mind though it comes with a lot of software to play with, even the basic version, so you’ll have lots to install on your laptop/desktop.

I’ve had the Mikro since it came out, and used the Maschine DAW for years until I discovered the iPad, so I guess it wasn’t such a big learning curve for me.

I’ll try and get a SOTM track up from it in Nov.

I get you. Was actually just watching Tarekith's overview and it became obvious viz the laptop/desktop. I was imagining/picturing a Circuit, but OF COURSE there's a fucktron more functionality via the software etc. No worries, have a pretty powerful extra desktop here I only run video on so I could absolutely hook it up as required....more than anything it sounds like creative fun which is what I want more than anything else....

Something I haven’t mentioned, and that you can’t really do with just the desktop, is jam with it in an Ableton-ish way.

You have 8 groups of 16 instruments or samples (though each sample can be sliced again across 16 pads), and each instrument in each group can then be sequenced via MIDI patterns.

For ease of recall and song building, patterns can be grouped into scenes. Scenes can then be arranged on the timeline to be played as a finished song (you can export the whole song put as an audio file).

What I find fun though, and useful for song building, is to trigger patterns and scenes live in an Ableton jam like way. You do this via the pads in either pattern or scene mode. You can also quickly solo or mute instruments in a group, again adding a bit of spontaneity. The visual mixer works well too, and you can use the knobs to adjust volumes of groups or individual instruments.

JohnnyGoodyear

@MonzoPro said:

@JohnnyGoodyear said:

@MonzoPro said:

@JohnnyGoodyear said:

@MonzoPro said:

@kobamoto said:
^^ that was the best route for me too Monzo, but the potential for maschine to be a complete solution is/was so high it just grated on my nerves .... I do hope the mk3 works out for you though.

Just to update this: I got the Mk3 a couple of months back, and absolutely love it. Still learning, but aside from full audio tracks, you can pretty much do everything from this thing, from sampling, to arranging and mixing.

Favourite things:

Love the built in audio interface, which means I can just plug a mic or guitar in the back and play or sample straight away. Plus I use it instead of my laptop audio for zero latency. I use the stereo ins to capture the iPad.

Sample editing is fast and accurate, and the manual mode for chopping and assigning slices to pads very quick.

Pattern editing - I find it quicker, and more accurate via the controller than using the laptop, which was a surprise.

Instrument browser - excellent visual browser for checking through presets, with my VST’s also supported.

Ten out of ten for this thing, never thought I’d like it as much as I do, but it’s now at the heart of my music making workflow.

Good review, especially knowing that you are a hard/thoughtful bear to fool etc. One remaining area of uncertainty for me would be the fact that I don't (as of today) use any pc/mac based DAW. I have FL on my desktop but just haven't bothered with it. Is it fun/practical to use the MK3 on its own/just with iPad or am I completely missing the point here...?

It really comes into its own when used with the Maschine DAW software, but I equally use it to play Komplete and other VST’s live into Reason, and record them that way.

It is a MIDI controller though, so theoretically should be mappable to desktop and iPad software. I’ve only just got the psu though, so haven’t tested out iPad control yet. I’ll try and remember to test it out tomorrow and report my findings.

Bear in mind though it comes with a lot of software to play with, even the basic version, so you’ll have lots to install on your laptop/desktop.

I’ve had the Mikro since it came out, and used the Maschine DAW for years until I discovered the iPad, so I guess it wasn’t such a big learning curve for me.

I’ll try and get a SOTM track up from it in Nov.

I get you. Was actually just watching Tarekith's overview and it became obvious viz the laptop/desktop. I was imagining/picturing a Circuit, but OF COURSE there's a fucktron more functionality via the software etc. No worries, have a pretty powerful extra desktop here I only run video on so I could absolutely hook it up as required....more than anything it sounds like creative fun which is what I want more than anything else....

Something I haven’t mentioned, and that you can’t really do with just the desktop, is jam with it in an Ableton-ish way.

You have 8 groups of 16 instruments or samples (though each sample can be sliced again across 16 pads), and each instrument in each group can then be sequenced via MIDI patterns.

For ease of recall and song building, patterns can be grouped into scenes. Scenes can then be arranged on the timeline to be played as a finished song (you can export the whole song put as an audio file).

What I find fun though, and useful for song building, is to trigger patterns and scenes live in an Ableton jam like way. You do this via the pads in either pattern or scene mode. You can also quickly solo or mute instruments in a group, again adding a bit of spontaneity. The visual mixer works well too, and you can use the knobs to adjust volumes of groups or individual instruments.

That does sound really good. I'm sold. Decision made. Point of no return passed etc. Also liked the 'Lock' button that @Tarekith demonstrated. Am not a performer, but can still see how they might be fun/useful...now it's just a matter of having to wait for Chrimble dammit....which will at least give me plenty of time to decipher/decide what to do about this Komplete busness

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@JohnnyGoodyear said:

@MonzoPro said:

@JohnnyGoodyear said:

@MonzoPro said:

@JohnnyGoodyear said:

@MonzoPro said:

@kobamoto said:
^^ that was the best route for me too Monzo, but the potential for maschine to be a complete solution is/was so high it just grated on my nerves .... I do hope the mk3 works out for you though.

Just to update this: I got the Mk3 a couple of months back, and absolutely love it. Still learning, but aside from full audio tracks, you can pretty much do everything from this thing, from sampling, to arranging and mixing.

Favourite things:

Love the built in audio interface, which means I can just plug a mic or guitar in the back and play or sample straight away. Plus I use it instead of my laptop audio for zero latency. I use the stereo ins to capture the iPad.

Sample editing is fast and accurate, and the manual mode for chopping and assigning slices to pads very quick.

Pattern editing - I find it quicker, and more accurate via the controller than using the laptop, which was a surprise.

Instrument browser - excellent visual browser for checking through presets, with my VST’s also supported.

Ten out of ten for this thing, never thought I’d like it as much as I do, but it’s now at the heart of my music making workflow.

Good review, especially knowing that you are a hard/thoughtful bear to fool etc. One remaining area of uncertainty for me would be the fact that I don't (as of today) use any pc/mac based DAW. I have FL on my desktop but just haven't bothered with it. Is it fun/practical to use the MK3 on its own/just with iPad or am I completely missing the point here...?

It really comes into its own when used with the Maschine DAW software, but I equally use it to play Komplete and other VST’s live into Reason, and record them that way.

It is a MIDI controller though, so theoretically should be mappable to desktop and iPad software. I’ve only just got the psu though, so haven’t tested out iPad control yet. I’ll try and remember to test it out tomorrow and report my findings.

Bear in mind though it comes with a lot of software to play with, even the basic version, so you’ll have lots to install on your laptop/desktop.

I’ve had the Mikro since it came out, and used the Maschine DAW for years until I discovered the iPad, so I guess it wasn’t such a big learning curve for me.

I’ll try and get a SOTM track up from it in Nov.

I get you. Was actually just watching Tarekith's overview and it became obvious viz the laptop/desktop. I was imagining/picturing a Circuit, but OF COURSE there's a fucktron more functionality via the software etc. No worries, have a pretty powerful extra desktop here I only run video on so I could absolutely hook it up as required....more than anything it sounds like creative fun which is what I want more than anything else....

Something I haven’t mentioned, and that you can’t really do with just the desktop, is jam with it in an Ableton-ish way.

You have 8 groups of 16 instruments or samples (though each sample can be sliced again across 16 pads), and each instrument in each group can then be sequenced via MIDI patterns.

For ease of recall and song building, patterns can be grouped into scenes. Scenes can then be arranged on the timeline to be played as a finished song (you can export the whole song put as an audio file).

What I find fun though, and useful for song building, is to trigger patterns and scenes live in an Ableton jam like way. You do this via the pads in either pattern or scene mode. You can also quickly solo or mute instruments in a group, again adding a bit of spontaneity. The visual mixer works well too, and you can use the knobs to adjust volumes of groups or individual instruments.

That does sound really good. I'm sold. Decision made. Point of no return passed etc. Also liked the 'Lock' button that @Tarekith demonstrated. Am not a performer, but can still see how they might be fun/useful...now it's just a matter of having to wait for Chrimble dammit....which will at least give me plenty of time to decipher/decide what to do about this Komplete busness

I’ve just lost an hour playing guitar and pretending to be Steve Hillage through it, via GuitarRig Pro (which is stupidly good), so haven’t tested iPad compatibility yet. I’m guessing it works, since theres a MIDI mode, but the puddling’s in how easy it is to setup.

I’d need to check, but I think they have a fairly mega sale in November. That’s the beauty of NI, I got the Komplete upgrade/crossgrade for £149, their upgrades and sales are very good.