Real time sequencer AUM?

gusgranite

@midiSequencer said:

@gusgranite said:
@midiSequencer oh wow. If this integrates with AUMs transport/record controls so you can record audio (to AUM) and midi loops at the same time this will be wonderful!

ah, audio recording is not my forte atm - so its probably just midi loops. AUM would allow you to record the audio much better I'm sure.....

I just mean in sync with AUM’s audio recording. So you record a 4 bar loop in AUM and your midi app records the same loop to midi at the same time?

midiSequencer

@breilly said:

My saturday has gotten a whole lot better!
You and all these developers are gods to us knob fiddling,
button pushing, sound shaping, rhythm building, freaks.

you hum it son I'll play it. But more often than not development is that piano on your foot!

midiSequencer

@gusgranite said:

I just mean in sync with AUM’s audio recording. So you record a 4 bar loop in AUM and your midi app records the same loop to midi at the same time?

If the record sync was to host tempo (not sure why AB3 doesn't display a song pointer but AUM does) then thats whats passed to the app from the host - i.e. I use the sample/beat the host provides to record with.

Link (if the host isn't in sync with) or if the host transport isn't playing gives you something different....

I shall be adding this soon so will find out.

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@midiSequencer said:

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Yes please 🤤 could you add an audio cue? Metronome if possible? Visual cue is cool too.

This is aumi - so I think only midi can come out, but I have an audio buffer available otherwise

ah, you are probably right but I believe i saw somewhere that AUv3 MIDI plugins provide audio I/O buses (which they can ignore)? Obviously im no Dev so i probably read it wrong as usual ;-)

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midiSequencer

@tja said:

Waittttt

That's an App named MidiRecorder?

I cannot find some "MidiRecorder" in the App Store.
Do you have a link please?
Or the developer name

Its not out yet - I'm the developer

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Samu

@midiSequencer Looking good

Can't help to wonder if it will include some kind of editing of the recorded clips?
(Still drooling after the sketches you made of a piano-roll editor long, long time ago hehe).

This will a quite handy tool for recording/re-playing midi-clips and transposing them with the keyboard.
Currently I'm just waiting for IKMultimedia to release the editor for the UNOSynth so I tweak it to the max.

A 'midi-looper' will be a perfect companion for it

audiblevideo

@midiSequencer Sweet Jesus. That is super amazing. Looks like you're a real programmer tackling C and swift

RajahP

@midiSequencer said:
AUV3 midi recorder.
You can record midi (notes, ccs, sysex etc) - quantise it as you are recording, filter by channel into a buffer.
You can trigger recording from first note or first midi message.
Save it to the app documents folder as a .mid file (standard type 0).
Share it using airplay to apps like Mail or Audioshare.
Load it from the documents folder to the buffer.

The above is all completed.....

I then have some pads ready (just 4 for now, lit when populated) - you will be able to load tracks to these and trigger them (they play out of the AUv3 midi along with your input) - so you can use this as a looper (there will be some looping options).

So basically this gives you the ability to record, playback & manage your recordings as midi files to share with other apps.

Nice... definitely needed... ..........like yesterday.. Thanks..

Hansson

This will be a real game changer for dawless jamming!!
Recording starts at first midi note, predefined loop length and possibility to quantize, it would be so freaking awesome

lasselu

Woah, looking forward to this!

crony

Very nice indeed 😎

ricksteruk

Nice Work @midiSequencer

I'll be one of the many wanting to try this out when you've got it finished

pauly

Can't help to wonder if it will include some kind of editing of the recorded clips?

I sort of like the 'nix approach for AUv3 apps - do one thing, well.

Maybe a midi editor could be another app. I'd really like an event editor which would allow you to write a list of program changes.

crifytosp

yes! please can I have some midi note replace and erase?

midiSequencer

@Hansson said:
This will be a real game changer for dawless jamming!!
Recording starts at first midi note, predefined loop length and possibility to quantize, it would be so freaking awesome

Its AUv3 so needs a host like AUM or AB, but not a full blown DAW.
I want to offer immediate quantise (during recording) and anytime quantise (after recording or on a loaded midi file).
Quantisation affects both note start & duration.Not sure if we need an option to pick just start or duration too?

midiSequencer

@pauly said:

Can't help to wonder if it will include some kind of editing of the recorded clips?

I sort of like the 'nix approach for AUv3 apps - do one thing, well.

Maybe a midi editor could be another app. I'd really like an event editor which would allow you to write a list of program changes.

Yes its important not to try and do too much in one app - Quantum is mostly too complicated that way, so better this app focuses on recording, saving, playback looping & needed tweaking (quantisation etc).

If this goes well I can redo my old piano-roll editor @Samu referred to and offer that as an midi editor app.

@pauly & @crifytosp - that app would be better for you to work with editing.

@crifytosp - are you looking for this as an immediate send (e.g. press a button & its sends pchg) or editing a midi file to include a pChg?

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@midiSequencer said:

Yes its important not to try and do too much in one app - Quantum is mostly too complicated that way, so better this app focuses on recording, saving, playback looping & needed tweaking (quantisation etc).

Loving your approach, very excited!

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@midiSequencer said:

@pauly said:

Can't help to wonder if it will include some kind of editing of the recorded clips?

I sort of like the 'nix approach for AUv3 apps - do one thing, well.

Maybe a midi editor could be another app. I'd really like an event editor which would allow you to write a list of program changes.

Yes its important not to try and do too much in one app - Quantum is mostly too complicated that way, so better this app focuses on recording, saving, playback looping & needed tweaking (quantisation etc).

If this goes well I can redo my old piano-roll editor @Samu referred to and offer that as an midi editor app.

@pauly & @crifytosp - that app would be better for you to work with editing.

@crifytosp - are you looking for this as an immediate send (e.g. press a button & its sends pchg) or editing a midi file to include a pChg?

I agree with this approach, to nail the midi record, quantize and then playback/looping of the recorded midi seamlessly would already be a very power and elegant AUv3 app.

Multicellular

@midiSequencer said:
does it need to be in the fx slot? What about auv3 midi - I have something nearly completed.....

Does is have tempo change by song section? Going mad at how many iOS apps cant do serious live music production because of this missing feature.

midiSequencer

@Multicellular said:

@midiSequencer said:
does it need to be in the fx slot? What about auv3 midi - I have something nearly completed.....

Does is have tempo change by song section? Going mad at how many iOS apps cant do serious live music production because of this missing feature.

It can already record host tempo changes to the midi file tempo track. So thats host related covered.
I will add Link & also midi set tempo meta message(so external host or iPad even) - if I find they are supplied by the host (or Link).

I feel, since you are recording clips (to the pads & files) that an option for you to edit this would be good (tempo, time signature, desired length (end track - to allow fixed sized clips), text (so you can name them), and Program chg insert (Bank/Program - so you can setup initial patch).

I'm working on this now (playback from a clip with parameter settings)

Multicellular

@midiSequencer said:

@Multicellular said:

@midiSequencer said:
does it need to be in the fx slot? What about auv3 midi - I have something nearly completed.....

Does is have tempo change by song section? Going mad at how many iOS apps cant do serious live music production because of this missing feature.

It can already record host tempo changes to the midi file tempo track. So thats host related covered.
I will add Link & also midi set tempo meta message(so external host or iPad even) - if I find they are supplied by the host (or Link).

I feel, since you are recording clips (to the pads & files) that an option for you to edit this would be good (tempo, time signature, desired length (end track - to allow fixed sized clips), text (so you can name them), and Program chg insert (Bank/Program - so you can setup initial patch).

I'm working on this now (playback from a clip with parameter settings)

Sounds promising.

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SevenSystems

@Dawdles said:
This looks useful I guess but imho just prolongs the current issue of not being able to simultaneously switch multiple AU’s patterns from one sequencer.

An example could be a performance consisting of -
Track 1 - Bass - Model d
Track 2 - Ambience - Spacecraft
Track 3 - Ambience - Dixie
Track 4 - Lead - Tardigrain

Separate sequencer per AU is a bust. Can’t switch/mix and match patterns across all tracks simultaneously. This kind of one track sequencer is ok on something like a physical modular where I can access everything all at once in front of me and change multiple sequencers at once to whichever combinations of patterns I like. But in AUM it’s ridiculously limited for performance...Better off to just use a DAW.

Someone needs to make a multitrack AU sequencer (which can obviously be used for single track too if desired..). Think Cirklon, Pyramid, Elektron, Op-z.... There lies salvation from the clunkiness/limitation of ‘AUM modular’... otherwise everyone is just locked in one key or having to switch apps view for multiple program change solutions, that is also limited in itself to ‘all or nothing’.

Somehow I'm not sure I understand why such a sequencer needs to be an AU.

Why can't it just be a totally vanilla standalone app (that ties in with Link, Audiobus Sidebar, MIDI + State saving, Start / Stop, etc.)? Am I missing something?

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Janosax

More apps with Audiobus involved means usually more cpu usage, device heat and latency issues. Sometimes it can just be useful to quickly record a midi part for a bass, chords or lead, with a low cpu usage AU. iOS leads to record/render everything as audio for better cpu management, midi can be only a tool at earlier stage, arrangements can be made with all audio materials at later stage in launchers or DAW.

david_2017

@Dawdles
slight off topic but...
Track 3 - Ambience - Dixie?!

Can you share an example of Dixie used for ambience?? Thanks :-)

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@Janosax said:
More apps with Audiobus involved means usually more cpu usage, device heat and latency issues. Sometimes it can just be useful to quickly record a midi part for a bass, chords or lead, with a low cpu usage AU. iOS leads to record/render everything as audio for better cpu management, midi can be only a tool at earlier stage, arrangements can be made with all audio materials at later stage in launchers or DAW.

Well said👍🏼...i dont create full songs, hence my need for this quick to use au midi recorder/sequencer/looper.