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SYNTHONY NO.2/ an iOS SYMPHONY USING 8 APPS ON IPAD4
I managed to improvise and record this second Synthony of four movements in about forty hours (the first of slightly less length took fifty). I used: Cubasis, Audiobus, Ravenscroft piano, Beathawk, iSymphonic, iFretless Bass and Brass, SynthMaster Player. All effects came from Cubasis onboard and inapps,
I have learned to avoid a lot of the time wasting problems of the past, but cannot compensate for the low RAM on my iPad4. (A new pro might be coming). What I did discover ( I will post a separate thread) is that the time I spent trying to avoid crackling because of CPU overload is unnecessary as the crackles go away upon mixdown! It is not as refined a creative experience as I would like to have, but it is dealable and the result is fine.
The music is created by improvising a piano part with audio and Midi channels simultaneously. Then adding instrument sections via the recorded midi information, freezing and sub mixing. Then adding three or four individual tracks such as bass, solo lead instruments and strings or brass. Effects and volume automation come last. Nothing too fancy, Waves Ultramaximizer on the mastering setting, EQ by tweaking presets and chorus, compression and reverb all within Cubasis. Several passes to get the volume changes automated, a final mix and up to SoundCloud. That is my workflow. I usually improvise three or four stretches for each movement ( tho often the first one just hits it) and pick the one that works best for me to orchestrate and arrange,
Thanks for listening and please write a comment, production critique, or observation on the absurdity of life! If you want to hear the 1st Synthony in Gminor, I will post it below. They are quite different.
Comments
Wow! You are very, very productive dear @LinearLineman !
I’m going to listen your 28 Minute Symphony when I’m ready going to sleep. Hope your music will help to get sweet dreams tonight. 🎶 So you can expect my next feedback tomorrow. 😎
Congratulations for your second iOS symphony! 👍
Mike slipped me a clue there would be a Beethoven quote in this one too. I hear Beethoven's 9th ("Ode to Joy") in the bass in the 4th movement. Nice touch. He also alluded to Aaron Copland and I get that too... and as a result I hear Laura Nyro's plagal candences (IV to I or F to C) in the chordal piano style of the 4th movement.
If you want more gospel church feeling in your music learn Plagal Cadences. You can follow them around in a "circle of 4ths" bass movement and arrive back at the same note 13 chords later and hopefully remember that you started here.
The fact that these Synthony movements are improvised usually in a single (often) all nighter is amazing to me. The opportunity to introduce bad notes into the mix would be too easy for me and then I'd have to excise them in the piano roll to keep anything.
Oh well... there have been better musicians than me around all my life. They inspire me to keep trying to create something I like.
I like these (Improvised) Synthony's and have growing respect for the man that makes them.
Thanks very much @Max23. Glad you could hear the progress. I am learning. @chandroji, hope my music as a pleasant soporific then I can say my music puts people to sleep!
Thanks, as always, @McDtracy for your encouragement and support. Words of praise can only be measured by those who give them. Your lifelong love and knowledge of many types of music makes me feel I made a worthy effort.
Hi @LinearLineman !
It took me two days longer to listen to your piece of music. Last night, just before going to bed, I found the time. I turned off the lights, put on my DT 770 Pro headphones and was right there with you and your music. The first positive feedback: I didn't fall asleep with the music... 😎
It's an interesting piece of music, definitely. I can't make comparisons here, I rarely listen to music like you do. Nor am I a music theorist and I will not give any in-depth analyses here. But I can tell you if I liked it.
I think the structure of the four parts is quite good. Your Synthony increases noticeably in the first 3 parts and the tension increases and then in the last part it fades away in a lively and pleasant way.
I liked the last three parts the best. Already in part two I had a wow effect. But then part three topped part two and the came part 4... 👍
Part 1
A nice soft introduction, the synthesizers go very well with the strings and the piano. Lovely...
Part 2
The piece continues to develop beautifully and dynamically. I like the fast pianos. The jazzy part of the music is well dosed for my standards. Jazz I can only listen to a certain point, if it will be too jazzing it is no longer my music (e.g. Freejazz).
Personally I come from the 70s Folk and Rockmusik.
Part 3
I like this part almost more than the second. I like this soft, relaxed groove. I find this part also very exciting. Great bass playing and I love the brass! 1A! Very cool!
Part 4
I like the slightly buoyant and cheerful ending. Here it's not as serious as in the third part the music gets relaxed and happier. The choirs are great, very well done, which one did you use here?
You are a great musician in my opinion and I think you had a lot of fun producing this music on the iPad. It's amazing what's possible with this little piece of hardware. Great times for IOS musicians...
I really enjoyed listening to your music. I heard them twice, last night with the headphones and today in the office with the stereo speakers . All in all I spent about 60 minutes with your music including writing this feedback!
I like your new synthony Michael! 🎶👍😊
Gosh, thank you so much @chandroji! Thanks for taking the time to write your thoughts and for listening twice! I was thinking that I am asking people to make a big commitment to listen to a half hour's worth of music. I am really glad you enjoyed it.
That you mention the 70s in terms of your roots may be surprisingly accurate when it comes to this piece. @kuhl suggested that if it had been produced in the 70s it could have been a hit record. I asked him why and he mentioned the experimental and improvisory nature of the piece. He also mentioned a couple of bands it reminded him of. Maybe he will comment again on this thread about it. It was a great time in rock music and anything seemed possible. Also the boundaries of what was accepted were stretched and people's ears expanded with each new and great band that came along. So that is probably why this piece resonated as much as it did for you. I'm glad you liked the second movement. It was a "stretch" for me as it felt so different from what I had been doing. I would like to head in that direction except I don't seem to have much control over what happens when I improvise the underlying piano parts to these movements. I just take a deep breath and go! Thanks again @chandroji!
This is one of the reasons why I like 70s rock music. During this time a lot of experimentation and improvisation took place. Songs that went over an LP side were not uncommon.
Rock was played with folk, jazz or classical influences. Musicians experiment with new instruments like synthesizers. So I can understand @kuhl if he says that your music would have been very successful at that time.
Guess you might be right about that.
I have always been interested in experimental music. One reason why I also like German rock bands from the 70s. These bands were highly experimental in my eyes and had their fun improvising. The music of these bands was called Krautrock. Many of these bands influenced musicians from all over the world.
To name but a few:
Amon Düül, Birth Control, Can, Embryo, Grobschnitt, Guru Guru, Jane, Hoelderlin, Triumvirat, Popul Vuh, Kraan...
Not to forget the German electronics engineers like:
Tangerine Dream, Klaus Schulze, Ashra Temple, Kraftwerk, Neu, Eberhard Schoener etc.
What they all had in common was to make something of their own and enter new musical territory. German rock music differed significantly from British and American rock music at that time. Anyway...
Let’s go my friend and keep going your music! You are on the right way.
Let me say something with Jacob Haq’s famous Words:
Go and finger all your stuff and have a lot of fun doing it! 🎶👍😊
Have a great day Michael!
All those bands I used to listen to as a teenager in the late 70s...
May I add some bands like Gong, Gentle Giant, King Crimson, Robert Fripp, Soft Machine, Popul Ace
Sounds really great!! I think my least favorite thing is the plucky strings on the second part. I liked the notes, but something about the strings I didn’t care for. Maybe it’s just because iOS doesn’t do them well. Good job pushing your old iPad to do all of this. Also, like mentioned above I’m also a fan of certain kinds of 70’s prog rock and things like that, though I wasn’t even born yet when it was all new. This definitely reminds me of some of those kinds of things, probably a lot has to do with the improv on the pieces.
@chandroji you asked about the choruses... Beathawk mixed choir, religious ahs.
@DMan , thanks for listening. I personally like that bass pizzacato patch from Beathawk, but taste is not to be disputed. Glad you liked it overall.
Wow!
Very nice and well done.
And all done on an iPad 4.
Can you imagine what a Synthony will sound like when Mike gets home from vacation and has a sustain pedal again? More sustained notes.
Thanks so much @rs2000. Yes my ipad4 did yeoman service here, only started smoking once or twice. .
@McDtracy sustain your disbelief a little while longer. I will call the 3rd, the Pedalphilia in your honor!