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Hi @supanorton !
One of the biggest music stores in Germany is based in Berlin just 10 minutes away from my place. But sadly it seems they didn’t have any Focal Spirit Headphone on stock. I would love to try them out...
Thanks a lot for your feedback, very appreciate! 👍
Studio Monitor headphones - Audio Technica ATH-M50xBL:
https://www.audio-technica.com/cms/headphones/c8feef8909dbc020/index.html
Open-back headphones - Koss KSC35:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000051SCZ
Ear-buds (good bass) - Klipsch R6i:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075ZDX8HF
Also good bass in Beats Studio headphones.
Focal has discontinued the Spirtit Pros and replaced them with the Listen Pros. Totally different design. They appear to be more sturdy and durable than the Spirit Pros. Many users, including @richardyot have been using the Spirit Pros for years without issue.
I’ve seen many forum threads about the cracks, and people claiming Focal refused to help. That was not my experience. They replaced two sets of headphones for me free of charge. I’m very pleased with the Focal Listen Pros.
The Focal Spirit Professionals have been discontinued and replaced by Focal Listen Professionals. Does the store carry the Focal Listen Professionals? To my ears, they’re every bit as good as the Spirit Pros.
They have them in stock @supanorton ! 😊
I think from all Headphones in this thread they are the costly ones... 😎
Thanks for the info. It's quite possible that I was given the Focal Listen Pro's to try at GAK seeing as the spirits have been discontinued I probably got them mixed up with each other. Good info to have though, as i was looking at second hand phones on E-bay, & would have bought the wrong ones.without this vital bit of intel. Thanks!
Same. Will never switch. Sound the best to me for recording/mixing or for just listening to music.
Sony MDR-7506
Great Price, Very comfortable, sound great! Tried and Tested. I see many amongst this thread that own them too. Good choice:)
Yeah it's hard to choose - I'd definitely give those Sony MDR 7506 a listen too. Good Luck
Audio Technica ATH 50mx
keep it budget over here with Samson SR850, Tascam TH02, and Sony MDR 7506.
DT770
I've had many studio cans and these are my favourite by far. They're far better made than everything else and the isolation is great.
I really hate Sony MDR7506.
Did you check if they're on Amazon in Germany? They sell in the US through Amazon too.
I use the Beyerdynamic DT-990 Pro 250 Ohm. They working great on my iPhone as well. I prefer open headphones.
Agreed on the MDR-7506. I have probably 3-5 sets of affordable headphones I leave throughout my house and use for a variety of things. Sennheisers became my favorite because they seem to handle guitar frequencies well. I have HD201, HD428, and HD280Pro's, though only the latter even approaches "studio quality".
The MDR-7506 can be a little shrill with guitar, but is GREAT with iOS music generally, and they're so comfortable. Headphones have obviously become more bass-oriented since 1991, but for sound production, you don't want that. The MDR-7506 handles bass frequencies clearly and articulately, and accurately relay the frequency dynamics of music...they continue to be widely used for good reason.
KRK KNS 8400 for a sleeper pick.
PROS
Extremely comfortable
Closed-back without sounding boxy
Inexpensive
Non fatiguing highs with excellent extension
Translate well to the Rockits (unsurprisingly)
CONS
Not a looker
For mixing and mastering you want open or semi open back headphones. Closed back headphones are for monitoring insteuments/vocals
I voted for the audio technica m50 since there wasn't an option for the m40. I haven't had to use the backup cable yet and use them almost daily for around 4 years! Price on these is great and things translates well when I compare on my monitors.
Superlux HD668B
https://m.thomann.de/de/superlux_hd668_b.htm
DT 990 pro. They sound loud enough for my needs. If I want more volume I connect it to the zoom u22.
Add one more to the Sony MDR-7506 tally. I've had my pair for 25 years(?), they have been on tour and in studios and travelled all around the world and they are still going strong (had to replace the ear covers a couple of times; I recommend 3rd party velour covers instead of the slick Sony parts, as the Sony ones will eventually disintegrate and get little bits of black film everywhere**. Granted this is after several years of use, but still...).
The 7506s have excellent isolation yet are very comfortable to wear (and I do wear glasses).
They are a little hyped in the upper-mids. Personally, I like this (I detest bass-heavy playback systems) and they do work well for translating mixes, but as StormJH1 mentioned, with crispy guitar tones they can be a little fatiguing at higher volume levels (but at lower listening levels they sound great).
Are there better headphones? Sure, but no better value - they work really well for tracking and mixing and they are very sturdy.
** while the actual ear pads of the replacements are velour, the bit that attaches to the headphone had the same slick film. This did degrade and did get everywhere; if you look at the macro shots of my Quantum video you can see a bit stuck to my finger...
A word of caution about asking for headphone advice on the internet: the world is split pretty evenly between people who like bright headphones and people who like dark headphones (bright = emphasized treble, lacking in bass, and dark = muted treble and/or emphasized bass). Everyone hears slightly differently and has different tastes, and it's important to know where you are on that spectrum if you are going to take people's advice.
It's not really possible to make neutral headphones BTW, because a flat sound would sound really thin and lacking in bass because we are used to listening in real spaces where high frequencies get absorbed - for example listening to the same speakers in a room with carpets vs. a room with wooden flooring or tiles is going to be markedly different due to the way that the highs would be absorbed by the carpet and reflected by the harder surfaces. So all headphones need to make some frequency compensation in order not to sound weird. The debate is how much compensation should there be?
Some people hate bass-heavy cans, and some people hate treble-heavy cans. That's why there is a difference between the house sound of Sennheiser, AKG, Audio-Technica, Sony etc...
Sennheiser and Beyer Dynamic are traditionally warmer sounding. I wouldn't say that Sennheiser are bass-heavy, but the highs are definitely not tiring to listen too. Beyer tend to have slightly recessed mids and warm, deep lows, with crisp highs. (Neither of these brands are going to be bass-heavy like Beats, which are ridiculous and sound awful.)
The Sony and the Status Audio cans are brighter, with less bass and a more pronounced treble.
IMO Sennheiser is like listening to big speakers in a carpeted room, and Sony is like listening to small speakers in a room with wooden floors.
There is no right or wrong type of headphone, but personal preference plays a very significant part in your final choice, and it's really important to listen to any headphones you plan to buy first so that you can decide if they are right for you.
I bought the Sony 7506's and returned them: bad bass response...
I knew they had a neutral sound, but damn.. bass is almost missing..
Maybe the're good for checking a mix for mid and hi tones.. but for producing music? No..
I bought ATH-M30x instead as I didn't wanted to spend much money.. Same story, bass responsive isn't that great. I always eq too much low end when using them to have a 'normal' sound.
I should've have bought the M50x, I assume they sound okay...
I’ve heard this but never understood why ?
And don't buy into the Audio Technica ATH 50 mx hype. Just read this review that I can fully support. And yes, I had these headphones too. The mids are really really awful don't buy them. But yes you should try them and compare them with ie your Beyer DT770 and you'll hear they are really shit.
Review: Here's Why The Audio Technica ATH-M50X is a Terrible Headphone
Explains also the trick of Audio Technica's clever marketing and why they are so hyped.
https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/898207-heres-why-the-audio-technica-ath-m50x-is-a-terrible-headphone/
Also if @chandroji is used to listening to Beyer Dynamic DT770s, the Sony 7506 is going to be a radically different experience
Like where did all that bass go?
The DT770s go really deep, they're nicknamed the Darth Beyers. They're really handy for checking the low-end on a mix (I've owned a pair for decades). And that's another thing about bright cans or even near-field speakers: they often don't go low enough to really examine a mix, because the bass is simply not there. If you have any low-end mud in your mix and you listen on a pair of DT770s you will know all about it