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What iPad 2018?

edited September 2018 in Other

If you had to buy an iPad right now, focusing on music making, what would it be? And why?
Are the rumores true about the new iPad without 3,5 jack makes it worthless to me.

Edit
Question #1 in the Poll cannot be selected, I don't know why 🤔

What iPad 2018?
  1. iPad Pro 12,9''17 votes
    1. iPad Pro 10,5''
      64.71%
    2. iPad
      35.29%
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Comments

  • edited September 2018

    12,9 and i dont care about touch id or headphone out. Ill have it connected to interface all the time via lightning. I also wont be carrying it out, so not having ANY kind of proper lock mechanism is not an issue either. Face id crap i will instantly cover before it starts to learn my face

  • Gonna get the new 12.9 next week. I already have the 10.5 but Affinity Designer has me wanting more drawing space. And I am sure it's much better for music as well.

  • You don’t want to wait and see what gets released next week?

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  • Do not buy until after sept 12

  • I won't probably buy it before the new one comes out (it's around the corner), I'm gathering information right now.
    However an "old" model is not necessarily worst; a new model means usually more money and besides, the announced features (face recognition) and the lack of (3,5 jack) are not appealing to me. I wish I could opt out the cameras among other features. Who wants to lift 10 or 13'' to take pictures anyway?

    Whatever I get, it will be better than my old air 1 ;)

  • edited September 2018

    It is a good question for me as I will buy a new one to upgrade from my 4 in September. The 4gb of RAM has got to matter and the octacore.... processing must be so much better. If I could get two I would add the 12.9, but the best of all worlds sounds like the 11".

    Hey @tiantong ... looks like we are related. Strong family resemblance, no?

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  • The 12.9 but can’t select it in the poll!

  • Get a 12.9 on 12/9 at 12.09pm :)

  • Buy whatever has the biggest screen and most RAM. If I am using it for music making, the drawbacks of a larger size and weight are overcome by the benefits of more screen real estate. I'm really hoping a 12.9" update is released this year, with same screen size and smaller frame.

  • edited September 2018

    Regular iPad.

    If we did not have a 350meg AU limit and the file system was not so goofy then sure the Pro may be tempting but it is not like I can run more instances of Synthmaster One or Egoist etc. and spending a grand to have to shuffle files around in this inane little rat maze, pffttt. I would rather save the money on hardware and give it to the creative devs who are the ones really moving things ahead for mobile music.

  • I agree $1,000 + for a Pro would not be worth it to me.

    Personally, I feel like the best value for money is in the used market. If they release a 2018 iPad pro next week, I'll be looking for a used one in about 8 month, and hope to upgrade by selling my current iPad Pro without having to spend much more than a few hundred.

  • At first glance I should be tempted but I know it will be too expensive.
    I can now sample some parts, use them in BM3 and reduce the risk of crash in live...and reduce cpu usage...so...

  • @LinearLineman said:
    It is a good question for me as I will buy a new one to upgrade from my 4 in September. The 4gb of RAM has got to matter and the octacore.... processing must be so much better. If I could get two I would add the 12.9, but the best of all worlds sounds like the 11".

    Hey @tiantong ... looks like we are related. Strong family resemblance, no?

    I'm more serious than you - or is it a moustache? 😎

    @tja I have added an edit in my post. I can't add another poll nor edit the old one.

    I plan to use the iPad mostly for music, at home. I've been pondering whether it should be an iPad, a desktop or go hardware. Screen is important but more important is performance: I like glitch music but hate glitches on iPads.

    One issue I have with iPad apps is their relative short life, instability, RAM limitations... on the other hand I hate the mouse and my skill and ambition level is not enough for hardware instruments. In the end I'm just an amateur having a good time with a new way of doing music. So iPad it is.

    @Carnbot said:
    Get a 12.9 on 12/9 at 12.09pm :)

    That would be fun!

    Silly question: where do you find RAM specifications?

  • Would like to try a 12.9 a 10.5 or 9.7 feels not as a real update

  • @Hmtx said:
    I agree $1,000 + for a Pro would not be worth it to me.

    Personally, I feel like the best value for money is in the used market. If they release a 2018 iPad pro next week, I'll be looking for a used one in about 8 month, and hope to upgrade by selling my current iPad Pro without having to spend much more than a few hundred.

    That’s where I’m going ;)

  • @AudioGus said:
    Regular iPad.

    If we did not have a 350meg AU limit and the file system was not so goofy then sure the Pro may be tempting but it is not like I can run more instances of Synthmaster One or Egoist etc. and spending a grand to have to shuffle files around in this inane little rat maze, pffttt. I would rather save the money on hardware and give it to the creative devs who are the ones really moving things ahead for mobile music.

    I agree and it has me thinking and possibly saving me a boat load of🤑

  • edited September 2018

    @Hmtx said:
    I agree $1,000 + for a Pro would not be worth it to me.

    Personally, I feel like the best value for money is in the used market. If they release a 2018 iPad pro next week, I'll be looking for a used one in about 8 month, and hope to upgrade by selling my current iPad Pro without having to spend much more than a few hundred.

    Im planning on getting a 3 year plan with my carrier on it, and getting at least 250gb or likely 500gb one. 3 year plan costs the same as if i would pay it once and i can easily afford it like this, so definitely worth it for me. However spending that much on it once definitely wouldnt be worth it for me..
    I just paid off my air 2 and macbook pro few months ago and havent dared to buy the old pro, as new one is around the corner and i can live with my air2. Just hoping my carrier gets them asap after the release.

  • edited September 2018

    @AudioGus said:
    Regular iPad.

    If we did not have a 350meg AU limit and the file system was not so goofy then sure the Pro may be tempting but it is not like I can run more instances of Synthmaster One or Egoist etc. and spending a grand to have to shuffle files around in this inane little rat maze, pffttt. I would rather save the money on hardware and give it to the creative devs who are the ones really moving things ahead for mobile music.

    Memory limit for AUs may be dynamically set by iOS based on model/RAM :smile:
    Read it recently by someone who was able to add multiple instances of AUs on a Pro as part of some testing.
    Maybe some iOS dev could verify and confirm this.

  • edited September 2018

    @Hmtx said:
    I agree $1,000 + for a Pro would not be worth it to me.

    Personally, I feel like the best value for money is in the used market. If they release a 2018 iPad pro next week, I'll be looking for a used one in about 8 month, and hope to upgrade by selling my current iPad Pro without having to spend much more than a few hundred.

    Fortunately or unfortunately, Apple products have a huge resale value and there isn't much difference in price of used items :neutral:

  • edited September 2018

    @MobileMusic said:

    @AudioGus said:
    Regular iPad.

    If we did not have a 350meg AU limit and the file system was not so goofy then sure the Pro may be tempting but it is not like I can run more instances of Synthmaster One or Egoist etc. and spending a grand to have to shuffle files around in this inane little rat maze, pffttt. I would rather save the money on hardware and give it to the creative devs who are the ones really moving things ahead for mobile music.

    Memory limit for AUs may be dynamically set by iOS based on model/RAM :smile:
    Read it recently by someone who was able to add multiple instances of AUs on a Pro.
    Maybe some iOS dev could verify and confirm this.

    Hmmm, well I can get three Synthmaster Ones in BM3 reliably on my 2017. Does the 10.5 have 4gigs of ram? Curious how many instances one could get on that.

  • edited September 2018

    @AudioGus said:

    @MobileMusic said:

    @AudioGus said:
    Regular iPad.

    If we did not have a 350meg AU limit and the file system was not so goofy then sure the Pro may be tempting but it is not like I can run more instances of Synthmaster One or Egoist etc. and spending a grand to have to shuffle files around in this inane little rat maze, pffttt. I would rather save the money on hardware and give it to the creative devs who are the ones really moving things ahead for mobile music.

    Memory limit for AUs may be dynamically set by iOS based on model/RAM :smile:
    Read it recently by someone who was able to add multiple instances of AUs on a Pro.
    Maybe some iOS dev could verify and confirm this.

    Hmmm, well I can get three Synthmaster Ones in BM3 reliably on my 2017. Does the 10.5 have 4gigs or ram? Curious how many instances one could get on that.

    I can get 4-6 SM1 instances on my Air 2.

    About Pro and memory limit:
    @brambos ?

  • @MobileMusic said:

    @AudioGus said:

    @MobileMusic said:

    @AudioGus said:
    Regular iPad.

    If we did not have a 350meg AU limit and the file system was not so goofy then sure the Pro may be tempting but it is not like I can run more instances of Synthmaster One or Egoist etc. and spending a grand to have to shuffle files around in this inane little rat maze, pffttt. I would rather save the money on hardware and give it to the creative devs who are the ones really moving things ahead for mobile music.

    Memory limit for AUs may be dynamically set by iOS based on model/RAM :smile:
    Read it recently by someone who was able to add multiple instances of AUs on a Pro.
    Maybe some iOS dev could verify and confirm this.

    Hmmm, well I can get three Synthmaster Ones in BM3 reliably on my 2017. Does the 10.5 have 4gigs or ram? Curious how many instances one could get on that.

    @brambos ?

    @SevenSystems ?
    @rs2000 ?

  • @ToMess said:
    12,9 and i dont care about touch id or headphone out. Ill have it connected to interface all the time via lightning. I also wont be carrying it out, so not having ANY kind of proper lock mechanism is not an issue either. Face id crap i will instantly cover before it starts to learn my face

    Place a chewing gum or a sticky note on that FaceID dot camera so it doesn't drain the battery scanning everything that comes in front of it :neutral:

  • @AudioGus said:

    @MobileMusic said:

    @AudioGus said:
    Regular iPad.

    If we did not have a 350meg AU limit and the file system was not so goofy then sure the Pro may be tempting but it is not like I can run more instances of Synthmaster One or Egoist etc. and spending a grand to have to shuffle files around in this inane little rat maze, pffttt. I would rather save the money on hardware and give it to the creative devs who are the ones really moving things ahead for mobile music.

    Memory limit for AUs may be dynamically set by iOS based on model/RAM :smile:
    Read it recently by someone who was able to add multiple instances of AUs on a Pro.
    Maybe some iOS dev could verify and confirm this.

    Hmmm, well I can get three Synthmaster Ones in BM3 reliably on my 2017. Does the 10.5 have 4gigs of ram? Curious how many instances one could get on that.

    Yes, 10.5" has 4 GB RAM:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPad_Pro

  • @MobileMusic said:

    @AudioGus said:

    @MobileMusic said:

    @AudioGus said:
    Regular iPad.

    If we did not have a 350meg AU limit and the file system was not so goofy then sure the Pro may be tempting but it is not like I can run more instances of Synthmaster One or Egoist etc. and spending a grand to have to shuffle files around in this inane little rat maze, pffttt. I would rather save the money on hardware and give it to the creative devs who are the ones really moving things ahead for mobile music.

    Memory limit for AUs may be dynamically set by iOS based on model/RAM :smile:
    Read it recently by someone who was able to add multiple instances of AUs on a Pro.
    Maybe some iOS dev could verify and confirm this.

    Hmmm, well I can get three Synthmaster Ones in BM3 reliably on my 2017. Does the 10.5 have 4gigs of ram? Curious how many instances one could get on that.

    Yes, 10.5" has 4 GB RAM:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPad_Pro

    So if elementary math has taught me anything... 6 instances of Synthmaster One may be plausible. If AB forum Apple shit talking has taught me anything... it may still be three. ;)

  • edited September 2018

    If you want to buy a iPad just for music production get the Pro. My iPad. 2017 doesn’t have enough power and RAM memory. I loaded 3 instances of Zeeon (all playing 3 note chords) + Gadget (used for triggering hi-hats) in AudioBus all midi sequenced by Xequence. The CPU was at 93%. I couldnt even operate the sequencer anymore without the sound being distorted. And that’s only 3 synth instances..

    A normal iPad is good for simple stuff.. you have to choose the setup carefully and keep it lightweight..... Apps like Gadget and Caustic run solid. But using AUv3 synth and effects can get tricky..

  • edited September 2018

    Here are five instances of Zeeon in Ab3 run by Rozetta along with Fugue Machine and Gadget which has nine Gadgets. I am at 46%. Plenty of power and room to spare for me. Aparently the 2018 is even better.



    PS... Current Bm3 project is 3x Synthmaster One, 2x Mood, 2x Kualdron, 1x Egoist, 2x Turnado, 8x ProQ2, 2x Perforator, many Maxima etc etc no hickups or even thinking about CPU.

  • edited September 2018

    Yeah okay... but you probably only send single notes to Zeeon... Try sending 3 or 4 note chords plus some filter automation to each Zeeon instance... That will kill your iPad. :-)
    And the midi in Gadget isn’t really affecting the cpu load.. Gadget is really solid.. It keeps on playing..

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