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  • edited September 2018

    Some write a 100 page scientific explanation about something, others just call it "personality" ;)

  • We all get pretty fired up from time to time. I think with all of these musicians gathered here, dare I say some of us are artists, we have this place we want to go with these marvelous tools - we see ourselves in our creative minds eye getting there. When, for whatever reason, we can't get there, we must blame something, someone. Most of us cannot blame ourselves for our lack of creative flow, output or whatever. So (and I am guilty of this myself) we blame the tool or in TJAs case the developer. It's frankly commonplace - this sometimes displaced anger or ire. However, it's never pretty and sometimes very unjustified.

    Let's take it down to brass tacks for a minute. Mr Beatmaker (sorry Matt) is not one of several people working on BM3 and president of some major software corporation. He is part of a small team, perhaps a team of one. It is incredible we have the functionality we do. Quite incredible. 7 months? Big deal. I too get impatient but honestly, BM3 is not the cause of my lack of creative output and likely, with some soul searching you may find it isn't the cause of yours either. Please note I say these things to me as well so I'm not just pointing fingers...

    If I'm wrong, carry on with your ire. But please, let's not beat up the developers. They are working like dogs.

  • edited September 2018

    @McDtracy said:
    There's an emotional state people can reach called Righteous Indignation. RI is typically a reactive emotion of anger over perceived mistreatment, insult, or malice. It is akin to what is called a sense of injustice. "I have been wronged."

    Often when requesting a developer/vendor change an App we start with courtesy and start our internal clock. Let the clock run too long or get a reply that seems like an insult and you can see a user slip into this state of RI.

    A normal human being in this state becomes hostile but operates from the belief anyone being treated this way would understand and be empathetic. Maybe they will sign on to raise hell with the vendor. Mobs can form quickly with great but flawed Apps like Reason Compact? IT'S FREE! Still... RI Mob 'cause they could have... ya-da, ya-da. FREE w/ Reason Lite for dessert. Still... RI.

    I get there often and my spouse will suggest: "Would you rather be right or effective? What will get the offending person/vendor to give you what you seek? Maybe you should just try working on something less frustrated... wait for the change you seek."

    I usually turn on her in a state of RI and so it's goes. Talking someone out of RI is a request to absorb the "steam". "Hey, Hurt me."

    I have (yet) to buy BM3 and this helps me feel somehow like I dodged a bullet.

    Carry on.

    To me BM3 is like an instrument. The better you get at using it the better it gets. (But yah the sample length does need to be fixed and it has been adressed on the intua forum etc)

  • @AudioGus said:
    To me BM3 is like an instrument. The better you get at using it the better it gets.

    Agree 1000%.

  • edited September 2018

    @rockodil said:
    Maybe i‘m just an idiot. When i go to my „sample“ folder in Beatmaker 3 i only can read the first words of the sample‘s name. That is a problem when browsing large collections. Is there a way to read the full name or to activate Full Screen View within the samples folder? Thanks!!!

    An alternative is just use the iOS Files browser as your Samples browser...and then drag the sample you want to the desired Pad.

  • @echoopera said:

    @rockodil said:
    Maybe i‘m just an idiot. When i go to my „sample“ folder in Beatmaker 3 i only can read the first words of the sample‘s name. That is a problem when browsing large collections. Is there a way to read the full name or to activate Full Screen View within the samples folder? Thanks!!!

    An alternative is just use the iOS Files browser as your Samples browser...and then drag the sample you want to the desired Pad.

    I sometimes do this but it’s not usually intuitive since you can’t audition the sound first in the files app.

  • @universe said:

    @echoopera said:

    @rockodil said:
    Maybe i‘m just an idiot. When i go to my „sample“ folder in Beatmaker 3 i only can read the first words of the sample‘s name. That is a problem when browsing large collections. Is there a way to read the full name or to activate Full Screen View within the samples folder? Thanks!!!

    An alternative is just use the iOS Files browser as your Samples browser...and then drag the sample you want to the desired Pad.

    I sometimes do this but it’s not usually intuitive since you can’t audition the sound first in the files app.

    Yeah...just an alternate way to maybe see long file names if it's a problem...I just audition and add what I like when I hear it...

  • @echoopera said:

    @universe said:

    @echoopera said:

    @rockodil said:
    Maybe i‘m just an idiot. When i go to my „sample“ folder in Beatmaker 3 i only can read the first words of the sample‘s name. That is a problem when browsing large collections. Is there a way to read the full name or to activate Full Screen View within the samples folder? Thanks!!!

    An alternative is just use the iOS Files browser as your Samples browser...and then drag the sample you want to the desired Pad.

    I sometimes do this but it’s not usually intuitive since you can’t audition the sound first in the files app.

    Yeah...just an alternate way to maybe see long file names if it's a problem...I just audition and add what I like when I hear it...

    True especially if there’s good sample house keeping done. All snares in drums folder etc etc. Helps a lot

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  • That is not a bug, if you set up MIDI settings per bank, there is no feature to make bank MIDI settings persistent after bank change, so it can't be a bug.
    It is a feature that you require that does not exist.

  • @tja said:
    This nearly renders doing anything with BM3 unusable!

    I constantly change instruments and banks - when this each time also required to fix the MIDI settings, then I better really do not touch that thing until the next bugfixes.

    In my friendly opinion, you really should just walk away from BM3 forever, and not look back. You are just completely not the right personality type for it! B)

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  • edited September 2018

    Can you not grasp the difference between a bug and a missing feature ?

    Just posting examples of other software that have that FEATURE, does not make it a bug in Beatmaker because it does not have that FEATURE.

  • I am pretty sure we all get it now, you hate Beatmaker and its developers, but it is getting a little repetitive.

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  • wimwim
    edited September 2018

    (Shakes head in wonder at the inability(?) to understand the difference between “poor design” and “bug”.)

    @tja, IMO it’s silly to think that something like that is going to magically get “fixed” just because you complain about it here. If you really care about it other than just so you can come back after the next release and complain again, then the thing to do is to raise it over at the Intua forum as a feature request, then see if it gets acknowledged as something they will address. For all you know they intentionally designed it that way, or just never noticed it was different than other apps.

    Otherwise you’re just wasting your breath, and being kind of annoying while you’re at it.

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  • wimwim
    edited September 2018

    @tja said:
    But then, a missing lock on a door that is planned as front-door or toilet-door may be seen as bug and not just a missing feature or a bad design :p :) ;)

    Nope. Such a door with no lock would be poor design. A door with a lock that doesn’t work is a bug. :D

    You may find that others over on the Intua forum have already requested the design change. Or ... if no one has ... then I guess you will assume none of them use the app heavily either. ;)

    Good luck!1

  • edited September 2018

    @tja please can you apply your same persistence to Korg? The iMS20 has a ‘bug’ where Link and IAA is missing and it only has WIST which is about as much use as a chocolate teapot.

    Thanks!

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  • @tja :wink: guilty as charged!

    We’re all waiting for a BM3 update to drop for different reasons. I hope it meets your needs.

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  • @tja said:

    @gusgranite said:
    @tja please can you apply your same persistence to Korg? The iMS20 has a ‘bug’ where Link and IAA is missing and it only has WIST which is about as much use as a chocolate teapot.

    Thanks!

    Ah, @gusgranite :D

    Pretenting to be dump does not help.

    Missing Link and missing IAA is just not the same as what's wrong with BM3:

    BM3 has support for MIDI, so it should work!
    If it doesn't, that's a bug.

    BM3 has support for sample files!
    If you cannot read the filenames, that's a bug.

    BM3 has support for AudioBus ports!
    If you cannot even select the right one, not able to read them, it's a bug.

    I know that,
    You know that.

    So, let's stop playing around, OK? ;) ;)

    Goto 10

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