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You are mistaken and missing the point again!
You are shooting for the sky. Not everyone thinks they are expensive or "ridiculous" and made Apple into a Trillion dollar company. So who is right? You want us to agree with you?
No, I don't work for Apple nor own any of their stocks. I cannot afford to buy their stocks
I can say the same thing about you in other words - "Are you an Android troll?" Is this a silly troll argument? Because these kind of arguments happen on forums all the time with absolutely no outcome in the end.
Why not? I have HDR on my iPad Pro, it would make sense that their top phone would also have it.
I don't work for Apple, but I do own a few AAPL stocks. Not many, but a few.
It’s quaint how some Americans see the world:
ok, I see presenting you with facts is a complete waste of my time, and you're now resorting to personal abuse so I'll duck out of this, and avoid you in future posts.
I wouldn't if I had the choice. Even the largest phones available are too small for me to be watching any movies on, since I have a bunch of larger devices and displays/tvs to watch movies on.
But what if that was the only thing with me and I was taking a flight for example? Then the best movie watching device is whatever you happen to have with you and why wouldn't somebody want to have the best display possible?
There are people who might only have a phone as their main device or their only device.
The Apple of 20 years ago wasn't exactly made for poor people either.
I honestly don't see much difference in their pricing now and 20 years ago. I would actually argue that their pricing now follows a very similar strategy to what they had back then, and in the way that they price their different products and the different models available (good, better, best).
As for the iPhone becoming a status symbol, maybe for some shallow people, but that would be their problem if somebody seeks status from a phone.
I obviously must not care too much about status, since I'm perfectly content rocking my super cheap iPhone SE, and I couldn't be happier with that phone. I'll probably keep that for a good while longer before I get a new phone.
Guys, I fail to understand the sense of entitlement people are expressing. The Germans, in their 1930s wisdom made the Volkswagen, a car for the people.... They also made the Porsche, for a few people. Can anyone here seriously complain they cannot afford a Porsche, the price must come down for them?
If the iPhone were some lifesaving medical procedure... Maybe...maybe their could be a case for righteous indignation, but for a discriminatory purchase? Come on. The iPhone is the Mercedes of phones, and like Mercdes you can buy entry level or buy used for half the price. Where is the rancor justified here?
What law says everyone should be able to afford a luxury item?
Add to this INFLATION, and as was said R&D... I mean, nano pieces in the chips, a trillion calculations ( is that true?) could any of us come up with such innovative crap? But we use it, create with it and get a hell of a lot of pleasure out of it that our forbears of 60,000,000 years could never acquire for all the cowrie shells on the island. The Chinese have a computer, last I heard, that can do four quadrillion calculations in a second... Damn, if it weren't so expensive I could have that! Those blasted, greedy Chinese!
If you are under eighteen I can allow for a certain amount of naivety and misguided all for one ideas. But if you are a mature adult ranting about tremendously successful technological innovations and their expense perhaps you can remember the introduction of the color tv.... Very expensive and not everyone could get one.... But Lordy, now everyone has one. All these new expensive features will be available in time, just as power windows and mirrors are in the humblest vehicles. But then there will be new stuff... Earl Grey, hot, perhaps. Will you still bitch with your $200 ( inflation adjusted to $100) iPhone X clone in your hand?
I have come to expect maturity in most areas on this forum, but whenever cost is discussed the mewling begins. And over what? The French Revolution was fomented in part by the rising cost of bread. People need to eat. But dining on nanochips? Let them eat Samsung! I make satisfying music on an ipad4. I will probably buy a used Pro2. Thank you Apple for making it possible. But there is a gorgeous Arabian stallion for sale... Those bastards, how dare they ask for that price when horse meat is $4 a pound!
That's the Apple Watch Series 4.
Thank you @Max23! Just get an iPhone4, guys. Problem solved!
@PhilW, perhaps you are not familiar with our venerable @u0421793. I believe that his xenophobic remarkwas ironic, sarcastic, facetious and humorous all in one. But you do have a point. I know @MobileMusic is in India, so his reference to Eyemed was completely understandable. Not sure if it exists in the US, though. Probably.
@MonzoPro, I certainly respect your right to your opinion about this subject.. Not sure why @MobileMusic got ruffled, but you are a veteran here, you know how much good stuff he contributes in a fair minded way. A shame to have a rift between two really good guys. Sorry to butt in. Peacemaking bullshit.
Since when did the ridiculous 1:1 exchange rate between dollars and pounds rear its ugly head again and just be accepted? Apple is like mid-90s Nintendo!
and @IK_Multimedia
People don’t want to believe they’re being taken for a ride. It’s human nature. Heck, it’s why I have been in the ecosystem for so long, nothing out there compares to iOS and macOS, and Apple knows it. There was a time where I’d defend them as well. We want to believe that a company we like has the same interests we do. But Apple have continued to prove that only their shareholders matter, and mostly justifiably so? Sucks but it is what it is.
The draw of the ecosystem has reached a point of diminishing returns for me. I do not want to pay for dongles or headphones that I don’t think are good quality. When I’m sketching out tunes I want to strap on my beyerdynamics and go. If Apple don’t want me to do that then I’ll do it with something else. Fortunately I will have plenty of time to make that transition, whether or not they keep the headphone jack.
He seemed unable to accept £1475 to £2500 is a price increase, said I should be happy with a smaller laptop for the same price, then called me a troll for disagreeing with him.
I wish him all the best, but really, I’ve got better things to do than converse with people who think a personal insult is the best way to get their point across.
I don't agree philosophically (or maybe socio-politically?) with all of this, but it is well written and I am a tart for a turn of phrase and when I'm feeling a little Marie-Antoinette-like (as regards the complaining buggers) I am going to shout Horsemeat! from now on as I shuffle off towards the guillotine....
For music making the iPhone XR has an a12 chip and is cheaper than the XS
These new phone prices do not suprise me at all.
Twenty years ago (dot com boom) just about everyone I knew (even average non tech folk) were spending $1-2000 on these big beige clunky disgusting desktop towers and monitors. What was there to do? Play Quake, type a resume, order airline tickets, go on a forum... uh, play quake again, oh Age of Empires, uh email... shit Napster wasn’t even a thing yet.
Anyway, now the opiates of facechat, twitbook and Youtube etc exist. People have delusions they can make a living just by showing their boring filthy little lives or at least get laid just by showing their asses (that part is probably true). These phones go way beyond those tragic desktops of old and are in a way budget sexy status symbols, effective as such even for the lowly commuter, much much cheaper than a Lambo and far more addictive for the lonely and depressed (ie. average person) to use, so hell yah they are going to make a bundle with these insane prices for insane people.
Yah a phone and a smart TV satisfies a huge amount of people
Actually the prices doesn't matter. I won't buy a new Xs for me its way too much to justify for a smartphone (64GB is a ridiculous option). But... you know it already... this f**** phone will sell like warm bread. I don't know where all those people have that money from, but fact is: apple can do what they want. It doesn't matter.
I go with @AudioGus (who btw, seems to be as old as I am... fellow Quake3 player?
) its all for the shareholders and apple gives a fuck for me. In fact hey couldnt care less.
@JohnnyGoodyear , thank you for the writing compliment. I try to put my ideas across as forcefully and as entertainingly as I can for the fun of it. If people want to complain about prices, really, it's fine by me. It is their pain (or pleasure) after all. And that's why we come here, no? For fun and a little harmless drama.
I will cry my kingdom for some horsemeat, as well, Monsieur Goodyear. Where were you when I needed you on my meaningless rumor thread?
Oh the best part in the Keynote was for me, the wonderful Reese Bass with legato they used in the first bars when introducing the Xr with the Trailer... that was really good (starting 1:26:36)
Just watched it again, def. the best of the keynote this year
Actually paying for a phone when I can just sign my name and get a free one over two years baffles me.
I was all about Quake 1, came for free with my video card.
I prefer to invest in a good ipad for production and have a shit phone just in case I need to make some calls. I guess I will keep my SE a couple more years. Hope there will be a keynote in october and the new ipad 12.9 will not be 2000$.
What's the best part of an Apple Announcement?
Hands on with the new products at Apple Headquarters.