iPhone XS outperforms iMac Pro?? and Bass Strings

realdawei

https://twitter.com/dhh/status/1043277162676072449

gdog

Whoa! Thanks for sharing

OscarSouth

I think the bigger question is how does any day to day professional in arts realistically afford this new stuff? Literally the only creative professional I've ever met that used up to date tech for their creative work was a guy who did video editing for a big tech firm and had access to a lot of cutting edge devices through that company (plus the salary from the day job..). Everyone else I know uses 5-10 year out of date stuff that's worked for them for a long damn time and if it breaks, they either fix it, live cheap for a while or improvise (same with instruments too -- I've been repairing my basses myself and recycling the same few sets of strings using mentholated spirits for 10 years now!!).

[Deleted User]

@OscarSouth said:
I think the bigger question is how does any day to day professional in arts realistically afford this new stuff? Literally the only creative professional I've ever met that used up to date tech for their creative work was a guy who did video editing for a big tech firm and had access to a lot of cutting edge devices through that company (plus the salary from the day job..). Everyone else I know uses 5-10 year out of date stuff that's worked for them for a long damn time and if it breaks, they either fix it, live cheap for a while or improvise (same with instruments too -- I've been repairing my basses myself and recycling the same few sets of strings using mentholated spirits for 10 years now!!).

I’m using a 9 year old Windows PC for daily design/web work, and a 2012 MacBook Pro for out of office stuff. Both are perfectly capable of running photo/vector applications, and I hand code in notepad. Just don’t need any more power for creative work now.

Only time I run out of CPU grunt is when I’m doing music stuff - running Maschine as a Reason plugin pushes my computers over the limit.

I put new strings on my bass a couple of months back, the old ones were 27 years old, so thought I’d treat myself. Still boiled them up clean for spares though.

realdawei

I just want enough head room to prepare to use as many up-coming Fab Filter AUv3 as my heart desires. This just might do it. The stars...they be alignin’

OscarSouth

I think the real question is how do any > @MonzoPro said:

@OscarSouth said:
I think the bigger question is how does any day to day professional in arts realistically afford this new stuff? Literally the only creative professional I've ever met that used up to date tech for their creative work was a guy who did video editing for a big tech firm and had access to a lot of cutting edge devices through that company (plus the salary from the day job..). Everyone else I know uses 5-10 year out of date stuff that's worked for them for a long damn time and if it breaks, they either fix it, live cheap for a while or improvise (same with instruments too -- I've been repairing my basses myself and recycling the same few sets of strings using mentholated spirits for 10 years now!!).

I’m using an 9 year old Windows PC for daily design/web work, and a 2012 MacBook Pro for out of office stuff. Both are perfectly capable of running photo/vector applications, and I hand code in notepad. Just don’t need any more power for creative work now.

Only time I run out of CPU grunt is when I’m doing music stuff - running Maschine as a Reason plugin pushes my computers over the limit.

I put new strings on my bass a couple of months back, the old ones were 20 years old, so thought I’d treat myself. Still boiled them up clean for spares though.

Similar'ish' here -- I'm using an oldish ThinkPad with two different Linux partitions (one optimised for audio work and another for 'day-to-day' stuff that I fuck about with more). Absolutely blows the doors off any use case I have for it (using 99% open software) including mixing very large sessions -- may be old'ish' but still has 8GB ram and i7 processor. Cost about £250 refurb on ebay.. Air2 does me fine for any iOS stuff.

Here's my technique for bass strings:
Get a bottle of methylated spirits, a length of plastic plumbing pipe and a couple of corks (take the corks to the pipe store when you buy the pipes to make sure you get the right length). Put a cork in each end of the tube and fill it with methylated spirits. Get 2-3 sets of bass strings going -- ideally one set on the instrument, another cleaned set waiting to be used and a third set in the 'cleaning tube' (but 2 sets is fine for casual use).

I have literally had fresh strings on all my instruments 100% of the time and bought about 2-3 sets of bass strings in the last 8 years by doing this (eventually the winding end of a string will break from unwinding/rewinding 20+ times).

Munibeast

I’ve been having good results cleaning my strings with a cheap ultrasonic cleaning device. Works for me for both upright and electric bass.

david_2017

Impressing. Where is the iPad Pro 10.5 in that ranking? :-)

realdawei

@david_2017 said:
Impressing. Where is the iPad Pro 10.5 in that ranking? :-)

I believe iPad Pro 10.5 and 12.9 are based on A10X processor similar to iPhone 7.
iPhone XS is A12, next iPad Pros will be? Who knows

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@OscarSouth said:
I think the real question is how do any > @MonzoPro said:

@OscarSouth said:
I think the bigger question is how does any day to day professional in arts realistically afford this new stuff? Literally the only creative professional I've ever met that used up to date tech for their creative work was a guy who did video editing for a big tech firm and had access to a lot of cutting edge devices through that company (plus the salary from the day job..). Everyone else I know uses 5-10 year out of date stuff that's worked for them for a long damn time and if it breaks, they either fix it, live cheap for a while or improvise (same with instruments too -- I've been repairing my basses myself and recycling the same few sets of strings using mentholated spirits for 10 years now!!).

I’m using an 9 year old Windows PC for daily design/web work, and a 2012 MacBook Pro for out of office stuff. Both are perfectly capable of running photo/vector applications, and I hand code in notepad. Just don’t need any more power for creative work now.

Only time I run out of CPU grunt is when I’m doing music stuff - running Maschine as a Reason plugin pushes my computers over the limit.

I put new strings on my bass a couple of months back, the old ones were 20 years old, so thought I’d treat myself. Still boiled them up clean for spares though.

I have literally had fresh strings on all my instruments 100% of the time and bought about 2-3 sets of bass strings in the last 8 years by doing this (eventually the winding end of a string will break from unwinding/rewinding 20+ times).

My bass uses the Steinberg double ball end system...I’ve never broken a string, despite playing about a thousand gigs with it, and it never seems to go out of tune!

OscarSouth

@MonzoPro said:

@OscarSouth said:
I think the real question is how do any > @MonzoPro said:

@OscarSouth said:
I think the bigger question is how does any day to day professional in arts realistically afford this new stuff? Literally the only creative professional I've ever met that used up to date tech for their creative work was a guy who did video editing for a big tech firm and had access to a lot of cutting edge devices through that company (plus the salary from the day job..). Everyone else I know uses 5-10 year out of date stuff that's worked for them for a long damn time and if it breaks, they either fix it, live cheap for a while or improvise (same with instruments too -- I've been repairing my basses myself and recycling the same few sets of strings using mentholated spirits for 10 years now!!).

I’m using an 9 year old Windows PC for daily design/web work, and a 2012 MacBook Pro for out of office stuff. Both are perfectly capable of running photo/vector applications, and I hand code in notepad. Just don’t need any more power for creative work now.

Only time I run out of CPU grunt is when I’m doing music stuff - running Maschine as a Reason plugin pushes my computers over the limit.

I put new strings on my bass a couple of months back, the old ones were 20 years old, so thought I’d treat myself. Still boiled them up clean for spares though.

I have literally had fresh strings on all my instruments 100% of the time and bought about 2-3 sets of bass strings in the last 8 years by doing this (eventually the winding end of a string will break from unwinding/rewinding 20+ times).

My bass uses the Steinberg double ball end system...I’ve never broken a string, despite playing about a thousand gigs with it, and it never seems to go out of tune!

I had a Steinberger ‘cricket bat’ bass at one point — nice instrument but never really gelled with it and eventually sold it off. You could throw that thing in it’s case and lug it around though and it always stayed in tune!

Same here too, never broken a bass string from playing (I like to play lightly and turn up for a ‘big’ sound). Only time I replace them is from the metal becoming too weak from unwinding/rewinding for cleaning then. I’m not actually sure how some people manage to break bass strings..

Samu

The iPhone Xr is looking like a good option here too!

It will fit exactly the same amount of stuff on the screen as the iPhone Xs Max but instead of using 3x assets it uses 2x assets(due to lower screen resolution) and thus the apps will not require as much RAM and should theoretically run faster considering the CPU is the same

The Xs Mac and Xr use the same amount of 'points' for app UI design but renders with different assets(3x vs 2x)
https://www.paintcodeapp.com/news/ultimate-guide-to-iphone-resolutions

dendy

Geekbench CPU comparision is for audio apps lot more relevant than some javascript browser based benchmark ...

based on this
https://browser.geekbench.com/ios_devices/56

multicore performance is 11k .. single core 4.5k ...

which is almost same like iPhone8PLUS
https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/10044465

and just 1/3 in multi core performance (obiously) compared to iMac PRO
https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/search?q=iMac+PRO+

interesting is that in single core performance it is really approx. same (or just 10% bellow) iMac Pros .. i hope in A13 chip will be at least 4 high-performance cores ) (in A12 is just 2 high performance cores)

Artmuzz

So iPhone XS outperforms iMac Pro. It’s just a pity iPhone XS Max cannot run iPad apps.

Telefunky

That's nonsense - the figure only applies to Javascript and they probably just added some optimizations (worthwhile as the device is used a lot for webbrowsing).
45% isn't groundbreaking on that bloated kind of crap

Samu

I do wonder how much roids Apple will bump the A12 with once it's put inside an iPad??

Considering it's 7nm process it could very include 4 'high performance cores' and 8 of those 'slower' ones and 4 GPU cores and they could then market it as the first 16 Core 'Tablet'

[Deleted User]

Says nothing for audio.
But the multi core benchmarks are just about 10% better than the previous chip. It begins to not get these 2X increase every year and also beware of thermal throttle.
All i know is that my iPad 10.5“ (which i returned) was not too impressive against a low speced 5 years old macbook.
But geekbench is also worthless for comparing audio iOS vs. mac. A DAW benchmark might be better.
I just wish we had much faster cpu‘s. I need more....now!!!

brambos

The iPad is a general purpose mobile device with passive cooling, optimized for running 10 hours of average stuff on a battery charge.

Manage your expectations accordingly.

[Deleted User]

@brambos said:
The iPad is a general purpose mobile device with passive cooling, optimized for running 10 hours of average stuff on a battery charge.

Manage your expectations accordingly.

Let me dream
Liquid metal....

[Deleted User]

More interesting is that a demo track (which sounds really nice) of the coming NS2 runs with 16+ tracks and a shit load of FX running about 40% cpu on an iPhone 6.....according to the developer. And i believe it.
So on the new iPads you might get the 100 track song if you want

OscarSouth

Can we stay on topic and get back to bass strings please