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  • edited September 2018

    Broken mod wheel? Frustrated by LFOs or Envelopes? Need new hardware that would make all your other hardware/software new again at a sub $300

    They just announced a less expensive USB midi version (bothered the USB and CV versions fit your price points)

    Expressive E Touché SE
    https://www.expressivee.com/touche

  • edited September 2018

    @RUST( i )K said:
    Already have Circuit.

    Roland JD-Xi digital/analog crossover synth :smiley:

    No other synth has its sequencer! Plus all the epic drum kits. It’s Big brother JD-Xa has no drums.

    Quick workflow sitting on a couch, Mobile, use an editor for menu diving with ease.

  • @syrupcore said:
    Yeah, Ripplemaker settled down my burning desire for an 0-coast. Of course, I haven't clicked play on any of those videos yet. :)

    I have several friends who have an 0-Coast. It does sound great.

    I made myself learn basic patching on the iMS-20 app before I'd let myself by an MS-20 Mini, so I'm kind of trying to stick to that pattern.

  • Since you're also in the market for a new midi controller something BassStation 2 or MiniLogue would get my vote. Or, if you don't mind trolling Craigslist, any number of cool older keyboards come up regularly in your price range. If you can find an older Ensoniq or Kurzweil, most of them sport polyphonic aftertouch on the keybeds.

  • Bass Station 2

  • Buy some weed bro and maybe order a pizza B)
    Then make some tunes with gear you already have
    (The weed makes everything sound good)

  • Not sure what you really want, but I see a few folks mention the Bass Station 2 and I’ll say I love mine and you can get them pretty cheap these days. Combine that with a delay pedal or reverb/delay pedal and you can cover most mono synth ground. Or just get an interface for the iPad and slap some iOS effects on it. As for the keys, well they are full sized, but if you like full sized keys chances are that 25 is just not enough. I wish my Bass Station was just a synth module. As a knob controller it works great with the Model D/Model 15 apps because you can get double resolution as the majority of the Bass Station knobs are in CC pairs giving it the equivalent of 8 bit MIDI.

  • I would recommend a seaboard block or everything you want for iOS 🙂 the iPad is hardware and all the hardware you need

  • @DMan said:
    As a knob controller it works great with the Model D/Model 15 apps because you can get double resolution as the majority of the Bass Station knobs are in CC pairs giving it the equivalent of 8 bit MIDI.

    I didn't realize that about the knobs. That is a nice bonus indeed.

    @RUST( i )K What's your closest craigslist? I wanna go shopping with your money.

  • @RUST( i )K said:

    @AndyPlankton said:
    As you were asking about elec piano sounds the other day....
    Yamaha Reface CP ?

    You may even stretch to 2 (DX , CS, YC) if you can get a deal somewhere...I'm constantly thinking about getting the YC ... if I had the budget I'd get all four :)

    Humm..

    Never even thought about that aspect.

    You stalking my threads.....?

    LOL

    Always ! muuuwaaahahaha

    One of these would also fit with the improvisation stuff we talked about ;)

  • If you want to get into modular patching on a far deepr level than the OCoast (and be able to save patches!) and don't mind keeping a legacy comp to program edit it, you might find a Nord Modular for cca 500 USD. Without doubt, the Nord Modulars are the most flexible digital synths ever made: Also top notch build. The clips below give an idea of its capabilities'

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=1Kzc9w9Snlw

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=8GyZ28uVaEI

    With some outboard FX

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=ADJZ5A4C2Mw&list=RD1Kzc9w9Snlw&index=2

    Minilogue and Bass Station 2 recommended a numver of times: I've got them both and really like the Minilogue, BS2 is great bang for buck, But if I had I'd choose one, Nord Modular without hesitation.

  • @ElectroHead said:
    If you want to get into modular patching on a far deepr level than the OCoast (and be able to save patches!) and don't mind keeping a legacy comp to program edit it, you might find a Nord Modular for cca 500 USD. Without doubt, the Nord Modulars are the most flexible digital synths ever made: Also top notch build. The clips below give an idea of its capabilities'

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=1Kzc9w9Snlw

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=8GyZ28uVaEI

    With some outboard FX

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=ADJZ5A4C2Mw&list=RD1Kzc9w9Snlw&index=2

    Minilogue and Bass Station 2 recommended a numver of times: I've got them both and really like the Minilogue, BS2 is great bang for buck, But if I had I'd choose one, Nord Modular without hesitation.

    Absolutely. It's not that there wasn't a large choice of modulars out there, both in software and in hardware, but the Nord Modular system for some reason is the one I have the most fun with. Take the "legacy computer" hint seriously though: You'll need at least a Windows XP virtual machine and a reliable USB MIDI interface to talk to the Nord Modular. The communication between NM and editor software eats up a large amount of MIDI bandwidth, and not every one is up to the task. I have good experiences with M-Audio, Roland and old emagic interfaces.

    However I'm not sure if I would buy yet another one today - the open-source VCV Rack is amazing, and the developer community is quite active with all kinds of free and commercial modules available. I bet that developing your own audio and MIDI modules is far easier than developing iOS apps, which was recently discussed here too ;)

  • @RUST( i )K said:

    @Spidericemidas said:
    If I had the spare dosh, I’d just get a Roland Gaia which would sit very nicely with my Roland JP-8000. I left hardware alone since I got mobile with iPad music making two years ago. But now iOS has become really good at integrating with hardware!

    Dosh.

    Interesting.

    London

    England

  • However I'm not sure if I would buy yet another one today - the open-source VCV Rack is amazing, and the developer community is quite active with all kinds of free and commercial modules available. I bet that developing your own audio and MIDI modules is far easier than developing iOS apps, which was recently discussed here too ;)

    I'd probably need more processing power to run VCV,, looks very interesting and a good tool for planning a real modular system. But for a purely software modular, I'd take the dive in to Reaktor . But for live puposes, I'd always choose hardware over a laptop.

  • 25 stylophones. do it.

  • @syrupcore said:
    Since you're also in the market for a new midi controller something BassStation 2 or MiniLogue would get my vote. Or, if you don't mind trolling Craigslist, any number of cool older keyboards come up regularly in your price range. If you can find an older Ensoniq or Kurzweil, most of them sport polyphonic aftertouch on the keybeds.

    What about Backpages........blublahahaahhaahhahahhahhahahaha

    BassStation

    Yup.

    Does it have a sequencer?

    Fully analog?

    Because the other Novation synths are Digital right?

    Except peak.

  • Just bought a 0-Coast. I spent more time on it in a week than on all my synth apps on my iPad in months. I even managed to finish a full track, albeit somehow amateurish, on just a rainy afternoon. Now I just want to hook it up to my iPad and unleash Rozeta on it :D

  • @silent1 said:
    Just bought a 0-Coast. I spent more time on it in a week than on all my synth apps on my iPad in months. I even managed to finish a full track, albeit somehow amateurish, on just a rainy afternoon. Now I just want to hook it up to my iPad and unleash Rozeta on it :D

    Nice sounds. What reverb did u use?

  • @RUST( i )K said:

    @syrupcore said:
    Since you're also in the market for a new midi controller something BassStation 2 or MiniLogue would get my vote. Or, if you don't mind trolling Craigslist, any number of cool older keyboards come up regularly in your price range. If you can find an older Ensoniq or Kurzweil, most of them sport polyphonic aftertouch on the keybeds.

    What about Backpages........blublahahaahhaahhahahhahhahahaha

    BassStation

    Yup.

    Does it have a sequencer?

    Fully analog?

    Because the other Novation synths are Digital right?

    Except peak.

  • I'm another O-Coast vote, I love Brambos's Ripplemaker and I plan to drive down to Ashville and buy the real one on my birthday, big o-coast for the big five-o. I have a BSP so cant wait to link these two. Thanks @gonekrazy3000 for those vids

    My other nomination would def be the Arturia MiniBrute 2S (a smidge over budget @ $650 but gorgeous) Maybe save a little longer!

  • edited September 2018

    @Richtowns said:
    I'm another O-Coast vote, I love Brambos's Ripplemaker and I plan to drive down to Ashville and buy the real one on my birthday, big o-coast for the big five-o. I have a BSP so cant wait to link these two. Thanks @gonekrazy3000 for those vids

    My other nomination would def be the Arturia MiniBrute 2S (a smidge over budget @ $650 but gorgeous) Maybe save a little longer!

    I love Brambos and all his apps. And I love Ripplemaker. But to be brutally honest it does not replace an actual 0-coast. While they have similar interfaces they sound quite different. I'm actually surprised at what sounds you can achieve by using the BSP's drum cv outs to modulate different parts of the 0-coast. Specially since the new firmware allows all the drum parts to run at separate lengths from each other. I must warn you though. An 0-coast could make you want to plunge the dangerous cliff of physical modulars at a surprisingly rapid pace.... Oh BTW. Make sure you get a few signal splitter cables. Like these:- https://www.ctrl-mod.com/collections/cables/products/stackcable-70cm-29-5-inches-blue

    Very useful for when you want to send a single signal to multiple places. Like have a single bsp drum lane automating 2 parameters on the 0-coast. Or even sending 1 signal to 3-4 locations by stacking the cables one on top of each other.

  • edited September 2018

    @RUST( i )K said:

    @syrupcore said:
    Since you're also in the market for a new midi controller something BassStation 2 or MiniLogue would get my vote. Or, if you don't mind trolling Craigslist, any number of cool older keyboards come up regularly in your price range. If you can find an older Ensoniq or Kurzweil, most of them sport polyphonic aftertouch on the keybeds.

    What about Backpages........blublahahaahhaahhahahhahhahahaha

    BassStation

    Yup.

    Does it have a sequencer?

    Fully analog?

    Because the other Novation synths are Digital right?

    Except peak.

    BassStation 2 is analogue yes and sounds awesome, the original idea for Peak was to make a polyphonic BassStation.....keyboard is nice and it can be used as a controller for other things (Including Circuit ;) )
    It has a step sequencer and a really good arp as well.
    Downside to using BassStation 2 alongside iOS is that some of the controls (Filter) use HiRes CC but none of the iOS DAWS properly support Hi Res CC, so you cannot easily edit recorded automation.
    Other than that though it is great :)
    Mininova is also a great synth, but you've already got half of what that can do in the circuit already. This can be used as a programmer for the synth in Circuit too as nearly all the parameters match up

  • go here
    https://www.tangiblewaves.com/store/p3/AE_modular_Rack_2.html
    get the 2 row rack @ €412..
    room to expand as and when you have a spare €20, €30 or more..
    might take a week or two as Robert has suddenly been flooded with orders recently..
    he’ll probably swap'out certain modules of similar value if you ask him nicely and have other preferences ( for instance I am not interested in having sequencers in the rack, prefer sending more complex midi from the ipad )
    I love mine... though spending a lot of time in Ripplemaker has made me covet an O-coast as many have suggested here..

  • @MobileMusic said:

    @RUST( i )K said:
    Already have Circuit.

    Roland JD-Xi digital/analog crossover synth :smiley:

    No other synth has its sequencer! Plus all the epic drum kits. It’s Big brother JD-Xa has no drums.

    Quick workflow sitting on a couch, Mobile, use an editor for menu diving with ease.

    Sold my jdxi to find a push 2. Biggest regret ever. The push is a quality piece of kit but I was popping tunes with ease with the synth.

    Definately saving up for another!

  • I must warn you though. An 0-coast could make you want to plunge the dangerous cliff of physical modulars at a surprisingly rapid pace....

    This is why I've resisted getting an M32 or O'Coast.... There are hurdles and extra modules required ro intgrate these semi-modulars into a eurorack system. There are many of these semimodulars on sale sh because quite a few folk who go on to investing in eurorack then understand the limitations / constrictions of these synths. I want to put together a modular with 2 oscs, two filters, quad vca, wavefolder, wavehapping, fm, ringmod, but even this without any sequencer modules or fx would cost me at least £1500. One day, but not soon!

  • @RockySmalls said:
    go here
    https://www.tangiblewaves.com/store/p3/AE_modular_Rack_2.html
    get the 2 row rack @ €412..
    room to expand as and when you have a spare €20, €30 or more..
    might take a week or two as Robert has suddenly been flooded with orders recently..
    he’ll probably swap'out certain modules of similar value if you ask him nicely and have other preferences ( for instance I am not interested in having sequencers in the rack, prefer sending more complex midi from the ipad )
    I love mine... though spending a lot of time in Ripplemaker has made me covet an O-coast as many have suggested here..

    This looks interesting. Hadn’t heard of it. Thanks

  • Yum hardware... better stay out of this thread.

  • @ElectroHead said:

    This is why I've resisted getting an M32 or O'Coast.... There are hurdles and extra modules required ro intgrate these semi-modulars into a eurorack system.

    False. You just plug the patch cables in. Easy.

  • edited September 2018

    I just picked up a used Ensoniq Mirage (on a trade). hehehe Heavy as a small aircraft and funky in it's low bit-ness. Keyboard is great. I have no idea how it will fit in but whatevs ... it's a blast (from the past). Hardware just pleases when you have the room.

  • edited September 2018

    @anickt said:

    @RockySmalls said:
    go here
    https://www.tangiblewaves.com/store/p3/AE_modular_Rack_2.html
    get the 2 row rack @ €412..
    room to expand as and when you have a spare €20, €30 or more..
    might take a week or two as Robert has suddenly been flooded with orders recently..
    he’ll probably swap'out certain modules of similar value if you ask him nicely and have other preferences ( for instance I am not interested in having sequencers in the rack, prefer sending more complex midi from the ipad )
    I love mine... though spending a lot of time in Ripplemaker has made me covet an O-coast as many have suggested here..

    This looks interesting. Hadn’t heard of it. Thanks

    yes, it’s definitely for the experimenters out there, at the moment the only revolutionary thing is the price and the size and the weight.. oh and the fact that the cables all stay out of the way of the knobs ... one of the annoyances that has kept me away from modular hardware until now
    you have to see one in real life to realize how cute they are.. i have an extended 1 row (20 modules ) and it fits into a cheapo flute carry case. I enjoy masquerading as a classical musician on flights :-)
    but Robert has recently added a steiner filter and a multifx module and there is more to come ( braids, clouds, algodrone etc ) .. i think he is on the cusp of ditching the one-man company thing and getting more people in to help meet demand. He is such a nice guy and the design is so ( volca inspired ) genius that I doubt you could ever regret putting yr money his way...
    there’s a forum here now.. http://forum.aemodular.com/forum
    . it’s early days yet.. but there is some activity and videos for the curious..
    To prove I am non-partisan in all this I also recommend the Nord Modular, as mentioned before, especially a G1 micro modular second hand.. usually about £250-290 though you get them under 200 a year or so back.. stay portable people!! :)

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