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Yes, Yes REASON COMPACT - Now With MIDI In & Audiobus Support - Epic
This is much much better than the original release
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Next midi channels and CCs and we are all good I guess.
@Norbert It's getting there, slowly but surely
There’s no arguing w the splendid sounds of this thing.. Thanks, Doug..
This seems pretty remarkable, actually. I saw the street fight when Reason Compact first came out, so I stayed on the other side of the street. But this looks/sounds pretty great. Was intrigued that Doug's video seemed to avoid using midi — especially since the midi in is such a big part of the update. Right? This, obviously, is not AU?
What gets me about this is the total lack of mobile UI/UX conventions. I mean, look at this screen shot from above:
Half the screen is taken to the keyboard. Then a good quarter of the screen to a modifier (amp), and the other quarter to a filter. Now look at how much space is actually used for buttons or actual setting interactions. That filter could really be used to show how not to design an app when screen space is needed. The keyboard could be cut in half, and the filter and amp could easily take up half of what they are doing right now.
Compare this against something like Thor IOS, Synthmaster One, Zeeon, Nave, or anything really.
It is such a waste of screen space, and really has such little functionality from an UX perspective. So much scrolling and moving around. So if I am using this with a midi keyboard, I can only use one hand as I need to move around the UI all the time to get at various settings.
I use Reason on a daily basis on my machine and have $1000s invested in that ecosystem, but what I have seen out of Compact is of little use on a small screen with only finger inputs. I have been waiting patiently for months since PH announced they were going to focus on the mobile market, but this just makes me so sad.
Just so everyone gets where I am coming from, they can put a full blown Europa synth in a web browser that fits into a similar screen space: https://www.propellerheads.se/europa
If anyone were to ask me for my $0.02, I would say Reason Compact is heading in completely the wrong direction, and it isn't because of the ability to make awesome sounds.
You should have seen it when figure by same devs came out- there was big time angst when it shipped without acp
But in a short time they did it
The props are not prioritising iOS so ANYTHING from them is a bonus
Peeps on here don’t help when they criticise devs on first releases, if I were a dev and read some of the stuff that gets said I certainly wouldn’t be encouraged lol
The appeal and potential of this app lies in it becoming an expanded version of Figure. When they get multiple instruments and multiple tracks, and a full song mode, and maybe some effects and automation, THEN it might live up to it's name of being Reason Compact. Until that point though, it honestly feels like Propellerheads is a company trying to find it's way.
Missed this. Very promising news indeed.
I agree that it's literally a waste of space. Buttons and sliders are very much away from each other for no other reason than looking good. But as musicians, we don't care whether an app looks good or not. We want it to sound good and be super practical. I guess they worked too much with graphic designers and not enough with ergonomics programmers.
I suspect it was designed 'mobile phone first'. On a phone in portrait mode those control panels, with just a few well spaced out controls on them, make a lot more sense.
As a musician, the quality of the sounds is paramount, as you say. But performance and access to the instrument settings needs to be a consideration as well, and I find it already somewhat limiting to pay in the IOS environment to begin with. This app, to me, is the equivalent of a drum kit that has been separated to take up a whole room because it makes the room look better than having all of the kit in a corner.
Yeah, I personally like the apps which are just one big canvas you can zoom in and out like model 15 or layr. The work they've done on LayR is particularly good, having the menu on the left in auv3 is just brilliant.
I think this comment makes tremendous sense. Not being an iphone ios user that never occured to me.
Understandably can/do discuss design elements all day, but must say to my ears has lots of bits that sound very pretty.
I think that the Reason Compact product manager stated in another thread that most of the people (>80%) who have already downloaded the app are iPhone users. So the iPhone crowd is obviously their main target group. Building an app for serious iPad musicians is a secondary objective. This explains why the app UI is tailored to the small iPhone screen.
« Serious » iPhone musician here, I find Reason Compact sounds good but it’s just another synth to me and no AU so I don’t use it at all. Only IAA stuff I use are sounds banks apps like Blocswave, Gadget or controllers like KRFT, but I use them less and less in benefit of full AU workflow. If Reason iOS go AU, I will certainly use it.
Happy to see this get MIDI in. It is a really good sounding synth, and it has a sweet spot most others don't with its envelope shaping modifying the filter or waveforms. It will not be an all-arounder for me by any means, but it does that one thing really well.
The scrolling is still a little annoying (i wish there was a 'tap to go to' panel like in Model 15, that's still not ideal but it would be a lot less tedious).
Can we get some AUv3 love on this app?
Tried it out for the first time last night. Like I do with any synth, I immediately reached for the pitch and mod wheel—and watched my joy turn to tears.
But I will say that within minutes I was inspired, had composed a new idea, and was recording it. And that’s what it’s all about, right?
Progress. Keep the good things coming!
Exactly.
does this app have midi out?