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Anyone a fan of House of Pain "Jump Around"? (remixed oct 9th)
Ok, anybody who reads these comments, this about the first mix I posted. I took all the comments into consideration and remixed to make it more about the bass and beat, cut out a bunch of guitars, and when there is guitar now it's mostly one part at the same time, occasionally two, but not constantly 3 guitars, cut out some of the stutter effects, added a slap funk bass doubling the synth bass, changed the kick sound so it cuts more, turned up the vocals a bit.
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I prefer the original
I'll put it like this mate. I love the original "Jump Around". I also love the beat you produced (more on that in a bit). However, combining both together is the equivalent of topping a frosted marble cake with vinegar-based coleslaw instead of coconut. Both things taste good separately, but it's unappetising when combined.
Critique aside, this beat here reminds me a bit of Junior year in highschool. It's when I was into Fatboy Slim, Chemical Brothers, The Crystal Method, and I daresay I wouldn't mind hearing the beat on its own sans vocals.
Or, perhaps you can grab the vocals from one of the tracks of those chaps and slap it on your beat. Cheers.
Lol , well I was going for a different vibe ... turned it into a funk song more or less and didn’t use any of the original except the lyrics . But I know it can be blasphemy when you do a song this popular . Thanks for your input !
Me too !
My pleasure mate.
You do good work.
Man, I think this is awesome. You have a real knack of capturing the energy. It's just a blast from start to finish. Nice work!
Is that Replicant? Or Effectrix maybe?
Put a big smile on my face, anyway. I feel like you have a shock-out Funkadelic inspired original inside you to unleash on the masses...
A bit messy but not half bad. I kinda like the vibe you gave it. But like you said it’s a classic, so some people will find this heretic. Don’t let that stop you, though!
Well done bedhead. That’s a whole lot of fun happening right there.
Thank you! yeah, a funk record is on my bucket list. That's all Turnado. It has endless possibilities for mangling audio.
Thanks> @pedro said:
Yeah, I should think it out a little . My hardest discipline is to not layer too many tracks. Sometimes simple is better
Well I had fun making it, but as you must know, the musician's boon is that after the 100 times of listening it takes to create something and mix it and tweek it, your ears get burnt on it and you just have to let it go and hope others like it and if you are lucky, maybe once in a blue moon you can revisit it and not hate it.
Only during the "trying to finalize and perfect it" can I listen to it over and over, then maybe 10 times when it's all done...and by then I've worn it out and can no longer get any pleasure from it.....which isn't that bad. Imagine what people would think if they knocked on your door and you were just listening to your own albums. They would think you were a self absorbed ego maniac.
I remember reading interviews with Yngwie Malmsteen and they asked him what other artists he liked and he actually said " Oh I don't listen to other artists. I just listen to my own music" I remember thinking what an asshole he is and was like "how do you get inspired to try something new if you don't check out other music?"
Everything I do that's my own original, was inspired by musicians and songs I love. They may not sound like my influences, or they might, but either way, those other people did and still do pave the way for whatever is next in my musical life. I get making music that doens't yet exist so you can hear that which is impossible to buy, but wringing your hands and thinking "I'm the best that ever was" is so foreign to me. I guess I've seen too many amazing players to think anything other than "I need to be better"
I always mix it up with this...
It’s a greatly produced track but like @jwmmakerofmusic said it’s a n odd mashup ‘for my tastes’. Because it’s such a classic and part of it’s original greatness is that it went hard in a raw state. Whereas this although quite raw sounding too, has a melodic element in it’s guitar layering, so loses it’s edge. I can’t reconcile CH rapping about ‘never shooting a pig cos a pig is a cop’ etc over a funk beat. It’s the wrong pairing.
Also I think some of the turnado effects sound corny. The stutter effect is one of the most overused effects in dance music. It tends to instantly date a track. I’d be interested to hear more selective layering with more stripped down mixes. But clearly you’re HUGELY talented.
The vibe strangely reminded me on Zappa during the Overnite period...
While the original may have been 'original' in it's days, battle rap has become a major boredom anyway... with much deeper lows than a funk approach.
I like the bassline - could be a bit more pronounced in the P-Bass direction, but it fits the track. Nice groove.
Turnado doesn't feature the most sophisticated fx engine, but didn't spoil the result in this context (imho)
I am a fan of the original and I like that you made it your own and I enjoyed listening to it. The most important part is you had fun doing it and it shows!
@bedheadproducer yeah my first thought was that it was too much, you have several cool sound bites but you have to leave the listner enough time to chew. Silence is musical device, too, perhaps the most important.
But it’s a cool track, you’re obviously very talented.
I appreciate all input and comments. I feel like I'm sitting in front of a panel, like the supreme court in my underwear. Shall we allow this or is it blasphemy? Does the writer realize you can't improve upon a masterpiece? or is this merely a tribute to a song that makes him want to jump up and down every single time he hears it? Does it thump, or does that depend on the sound system? Don't stop trying son, you got some talent! lol (thanks for the compliments as well)
It's been awhile now since I recorded this and I think I finally have a renewed perspective and just might remix it with all that has been said taken into consideration.
My biggest complaint , or what my ears are telling me today is that I didn't seperate the kick eq and bass eq enough and so the kick gets lost a bit when it should be driving the song and in general the drums need to be a bit crisper.
Also I have too many guitars going on at all times. You never get a breather so you feel like your swimming in this mush that does have some tasty moments but all in all it takes away from the darker heavy vibe the bass part would be expressing during the verses if it was more"featured"
Also, I'm pretty sure I sped the song up a little from the original tempo and now it seems a hair too fast to me. So I'm gonna go back in the kitchen and adjust the recipe. From what I can gather from you comments, I have some good ingredients, but it's a little rich and thick, to the point where it could use some thinning out and bring focus to some ingredients that are actually getting lost in the giant wash. Luckily making adjustments at this point, is way easier than recording this from scratch. I am very thankful you listened and were tactful in your critiques. I don't think I'll ever be able to please everyone, but I'm also not too proud to realize it's important to take all points of view into consideration and to try to always keep the audience you are trying to reach in mind and to never think you know it all, no matter how long you have been working at your craft..
I don't know the original and I like your version a lot!
I wouldn't even say the mix is bad, it sounds really good.
It has a character of its own, and nothing sounds disturbing in any way.
I wish you all the best and please do more of this!!!
Ya'll say you like the original?
@bedheadproducer - your beat is dope. Sweet 90s Chem Bros/FatBoySlim vibe.
is that part of what they sampled?>
btw, I remixed the song...same link, and I'm going now to make it downloadable as well.
thanks...I think I made it better now
Here's what I did and I put this in my original post too, for anyone new that hears it and reads the critiques.
I took all the comments into consideration and remixed to make it more about the bass and beat, cut out a bunch of guitars, and when there is guitar now it's mostly one part at the same time, occasionally two, but not constantly 3 guitars, cut out some of the stutter effects, added a slap funk bass doubling the synth bass, changed the kick sound so it cuts more, turned up the vocals a bit.
Love it mate. May need some refining in the mastering stage, but I'm not good at that, so I don't have any productive advice here...
just a feeling
Loved that you really made it yours. Really 90s big beat style
Thanks ...I like this new version way better ...if it hadn’t been fir all the input I would have left it also...if you don’t listen in headphones or really get in between the speakers you can miss a lot . I do a lot of panning in almost all of my songs
If memory doesn't betray me ... I prefer the 1st version.
The bass parts are nicely constructed, but though more powerful they don't work equally well together as in the previous attempt (though it's a good mix in technical terms).
For my taste it's already squashed to much - less regarding general loudness, but mainly the bass and vocals running through on one (unaltered) high level.
Version 1 had more dynamic movement and 'life' to it.
(checked on AKG K501, which rang 'bass alarm' and Sennheiser IE4 which can handle such bass - but in a regular room I'd suspect a lot of low note drones)