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setting up iConnectAUDIO4+ for the first time
Hi,
Question about doing it right in order to not get much too long midi port names on iPad.
I just ordered a iConnectivity iConnect Audio4+ (waiting for it) and I understand that it is important to change the name of the 4+ device into something short (before you hook up your iPad for the first time) or else the Midi port names will always be too long in your iPad, and the solution then is to reset the iPad, and I don’t want to do that .
I planned to set the 4+ up by using the Auracle wizard and the manual advises to plug everything in before doing the wizard, but after reading about the long midi port names problem here on the forum, I plan to use the Auracle wizard without hooking up the iPad, mainly for updating the Firmware of the 4+. I figure I can run the wizard again with iPad hookup up after I changed the name of the 4+.
Now about changing the 4+ device name.....is it enough to change it here (red drawn circle in pic below) in iConfig on PC .....anybody an idea if this solves the problem?
....and is my approach in general ok ? ........I don’t want to mess it up.....am I missing important stuff for setting the 4+ up for the first time?
Thanks for any help in advance.
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I'm not at the unit atm, but iirc I just changed the name to iCA ... doesn't harm anyway.
You can ease things if you change the name of the USB ports as well, say iPad and PC.
(just remember which one is 'port one' (or A ?) as firmware updates require the PC/Mac connected to that port - or check the doc and connect the iPad to the non-update port)
Each port can be set to accept any connection (IOS, Mac, PC), I didn't notice any confusion by this 'universal' setting.
I have no idea about Auracle and use the IOS control panel most of the time, but I'm under IOS 9, so can't comment about the current OS.
@Telefunky thanks for reply!! I understand what you say, but I am refering to what @Processaurus is saying in another topic (sorry if I write a bit complex
) which is, i quote:
“ If you get one (a 4+), you MUST plug it into a computer and change the interface's name to something shorter, BEFORE you ever plug it into your ipad. Otherwise the ipad remembers the names of the 30 midi ports forever, and in plenty of apps, you have a list that looks like:
iConnectaudi...
iConnectaudi...
iConnectaudi...
iConnectaudi...”
I think that when this too long names are in your iPad apps, you cannot see which port you want to use. I want to anticipate/tackle this problem. And my question is about how to do this in detail.
Sorry, I should perhaps had put that quote in my initial post.
The ipad remembers the names until you do a "reset" in iOS settings so you can change it later on. But yes do all your naming first on a computer if I were you.
Thanks for sort if confirming what I was thinking. I will change the name first on my PC.
I consider a reset if my iPad as a very bad option....cause of the uncertainty about what exactly happens than, what things i perhaps lose cause of the reset.
sorry, I never noticed that... but you're correct: my apps have the long original name.
(I only use the DIN Midi ports, so it slipped under the radar)
Don't worry, the reset on the iPad (not erasing) will not create any problems.
I did it a lot when I had the ICA4+ because I bought many different midi controllers and changed the orders on the hub etc...
You'll have to name 3 times the ports (in the software at the bottom) where they're connected "physically" to a device, then on the 2 different USB ports (because these controllers can be shared between the 2 USB connections)
So you'll get something like this:
USB1-IPAD 1
1-Midi interface port 1
2-Midi interface port 2 (if you have for instance a 2 ports midi interface)
3-MidiFighterTwister
....
USB2-IPAD 2
1-Midi interface port 1
2-Midi interface port 2 (if you have for instance a 2 ports midi interface)
3-MidiFighterTwister
...
Midi connections
1-Midi interface port 1 =>Edirol 1
2-Midi interface port 2 =>Edirol 2
3-MidiFighterTwister =>Midi Fighter Twister
Choose wisely your ports name in the midi connections, then copy/paste the names on USB1 & USB2 ports.
Save.
Then connect your ipad(s)
If you change / add a new midi controller, connect the ICA4+ to your computer, add the new names, save, reset the ipads, reconnect to the iPad(s)...
And so on...
Do your renamed port names show up on your iPad correctly? I was helping a friend with an icm4 and the changes didn’t take.
I got into using the usb host port with a hub, with several midi controllers plugged in, and using the reserved ports setup in the iconnect computer utility is key. One thing to think about, is if you plug in a new controller, that isn’t in your reserved list, it will default to USB Host 1. I kept Host 1 unreserved, to be the “guest spot”.
Thanks for reply. So there isn’t a problem if one only uses the Din midi ports? I don’t have the actual device yet. Plus I am not that familiar with midi. Is the problem only with port names from the midi within usb (is midi going through the usb?) and there is of course the dedicated Usb Midi Host slot. Hmm...as said I am not that familiar with midi, but I don’t want to screw it up by doing something wrong at first setup...... but if resetting the ipad isn’t harmful, that might be an option if names become a problem.
edit: after reading crony’s post better I see that midi is going through the usb (.....sorry that I may sound a bit stupid, but the midi stuff I only understand partly, I understand what midi messages are, and that by sending these messages to a soundbank you get sound, but other midi stuff is a bit of a blind spot in my brain, things like ports and channels etc I always get a bit confused when hearing/reading about these things, but I aim at understanding it eventually
).
@crony and @Processaurus thanks a lot for replies! To be honest I don’t fully understand what you both are writing, but I don’t have the device yet, and I am not that familiar with midi. But thanks for the detailed advice, I hope I understand your naming suggestions @crony when I have the actual device and I see iConfig before me.
I understand that an iPad reset isn’t that harmful, so it might come to that when the names become a problem. What happens with a reset? I guess all Safari pages I have open will be closed; anything else you can think of (apart from the midi port names that will change in apps)?
Or do you think @Processaurus that even a reset won’t help when trying to rename? It seems to me that it did help for @crony. Are you two having contradictory results......?
I guess the reset you ( @crony ) are talking about is the upper option in the pic below.
@Processaurus yes it did work perfectly fine. I also remember (on a mac) that the midi device must be deleted before you plug it back (to make sure new names are shown)
@Marcel don't worry, no contradictions with the results. The midi din port is indeed not affected by the naming, only usb, and yes, it's "Reset all settings".![:) :)](https://forum.loopypro.com/resources/emoji/smile.png)
You'll loose only your wifi connection, your wallpaper, and the settings of your ipad (widgets, and notifications mostly) not a big deal...
You'll understand while you get the ICA4+ panel loaded with your sound card connected to your PC, no problem
Thanks a lot Crony!!![:smiley: :smiley:](https://forum.loopypro.com/resources/emoji/smiley.png)
@Marcel you will probably not need the DIN ports. They are for connecting old gear, as it was the original standard. Today almost everything comes with USB Midi.
@Telefunky I was just planning to use the DIN ports for starters
It feels simple for me. I have a few keyboards/workstations and guitars, but my plan is to keep things relative simple in the beginning, only hook up my Korg Microstation Midi Out on the iC4+ Din Midi In, record in a PC Daw, and use the iPad as a virtual instrument controlled by the Microstation. Feels like a simple setup for me now. Feels like not having too much to config in iConfig
.
My other thougths are at this moment to only hook up one keyboard (my Motif XS or Korg M3) on two analog ports and on the Din Midi In at the same time. This way I have the other analog ports reserved for guitar. But my approach might suddenly change of course, and perhaps explore the USB Midi road.