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Making an EP

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  • @studs1966 listening to the tracks now and I can easily hear the cohesion between them all. Similar vibes and energy. I like! Have you had good success with selling songs on beatport? Also, do you master tour own songs are do you work with the label to get it done?

  • @Tarekith said:
    One of the things I do when I make albums is start project files for all the songs right away. Say I want to make a 5 track EP, I'll go ahead and create 5 projects in Auria and name them. Might be a rough idea for an actual song name, or just something simple like "Track 3".

    This way, I can alway see at a glance the whole project, and pick which part of it I want to work on for any given day. Personally, I like working on multiple songs at once, I jump around a lot while writing. Helps give everything a bit more cohesion and maybe a common theme, and if I'm not feeling a particular song one day I can move on to something else instead of feeling stuck.

    Man. I love this idea. Will put it to use and see if it actually helps me finish something!

  • @AndyPlankton said:
    Make a plan first, how many tracks, what type of tracks, what the theme for the ep is, if there is one. Finish each track before starting the next one.
    If you do not do this you will never finish, each new idea/track you do will be eligible for the ep, and you’ll drop one you already had, eventually you’ve got an album’s worth of stuff that nearly made it....and still no ep. Remember it is your first ep and not your last, save some of what you haven’t done yet for future ep’s.

    Most importantly, enjoy the ride ! If it starts to become tedious or tiresome, or that idea just won’t happen, just walk away for a bit and refresh your ears and mind

    Good luck ! :)

    Wisdom and truth here

  • @MichaelLawrence said:
    @studs1966 listening to the tracks now and I can easily hear the cohesion between them all. Similar vibes and energy. I like! Have you had good success with selling songs on beatport? Also, do you master tour own songs are do you work with the label to get it done?

    Thanks mate... Some labels wanted to master themselves... Some are ok in what I have done... But Im not a sound engineer... So I try & get the mix (hopefully?) near enough right... Normally, I don't have anything on the Mastering channel... Just in case? (at -6 on the master)

  • @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @Fruitbat1919 said:
    One more bit of advice I’m learning, but haven’t cracked yet - let your tracks breathe.

    I’ve included my latest jam I’ve done today. It’s getting some bits right, but I’m still wanting to put all and the kitchen sink in before those lyrics come.

    Now go listen to an album like Japan’s Tin Drum and see how each instrument breaths - all the tracks on the album just belong together.

    While I am no where near what I want, I am learning, so my final advice:

    Enjoy what you are doing and if like me, you never seem to reach that goal - the journey becomes such a pleasure that all is good!

    Wish you well :)

    Yeah, still trying to learn this myself too, must listen to tin drum again, see if I still know it word for word and note for note lol, although obscure alternatives is my favourite.

    Same here: OA, TD, GTP then the rest lol

    Yeah Polaroids is awesome, and probably the album that got me thinking about using synths

  • @studs1966 said:

    @MichaelLawrence said:
    @studs1966 listening to the tracks now and I can easily hear the cohesion between them all. Similar vibes and energy. I like! Have you had good success with selling songs on beatport? Also, do you master tour own songs are do you work with the label to get it done?

    Thanks mate... Some labels wanted to master themselves... Some are ok in what I have done... But Im not a sound engineer... So I try & get the mix (hopefully?) near enough right... Normally, I don't have anything on the Mastering channel... Just in case? (at -6 on the master)

    Great, thanks for the information.

  • @Tarekith said:
    This way, I can alway see at a glance the whole project, and pick which part of it I want to work on for any given day. Personally, I like working on multiple songs at once, I jump around a lot while writing. Helps give everything a bit more cohesion and maybe a common theme, and if I'm not feeling a particular song one day I can move on to something else instead of feeling stuck.

    For me that's what is working too.
    I started organizing my process. I use OneNote to lay down the specs for my EPs, defining the theme, project name, song names, etc. And focusing on apps that will fit in a single screen of my ipad, organized in columns (Core, MIDI + Source (3 columns), Misc)

    But I failed with my first EP (rock-oriented) and decided to reboot the whole project and am now starting with a Dark Ambient one.

    The main difference is that now I focus on single tasks for all songs at once.
    So...

    1. Define song name
    2. Define BPM
    3. Define root
    4. Define chords
    5. Define structure
    6. Write guide track
    7. Edit midi
    8. Freeze tracks
    9. Record instruments
    10. Mix
    11. Master

    This way I stay more focused on finishing stuff and stop wanking each song individually (trying to perfect them) and never finish anything :smiley:

  • @AndyPlankton said:
    Make a plan first, how many tracks, what type of tracks, what the theme for the ep is, if there is one. Finish each track before starting the next one.
    If you do not do this you will never finish, each new idea/track you do will be eligible for the ep, and you’ll drop one you already had, eventually you’ve got an album’s worth of stuff that nearly made it....and still no ep. Remember it is your first ep and not your last, save some of what you haven’t done yet for future ep’s.

    Most importantly, enjoy the ride ! If it starts to become tedious or tiresome, or that idea just won’t happen, just walk away for a bit and refresh your ears and mind

    Good luck ! :)

    I like this reply

  • @senhorlampada great plan. I have a lot of notes on how I am going to approach it and this should keep me in line. I have a habit of approaching some things haphazardly so this so provide the focus I need.

    I started yesterday and made one master template in BM3. Im going to create a million loops for consistency lol and then separate that into 4 different songs and work on each of them at the same time.

  • @MichaelLawrence said:
    @senhorlampada great plan. I have a lot of notes on how I am going to approach it and this should keep me in line. I have a habit of approaching some things haphazardly so this so provide the focus I need.

    I started yesterday and made one master template in BM3. Im going to create a million loops for consistency lol and then separate that into 4 different songs and work on each of them at the same time.

    That's great! :smiley: That's the thing. There are no formulas. But this kind of open dialogue we have around here helps a lot to progress and build better ways for a better future :lol:

    BTW, I think I recall already listening to your stuff, but whenever possible, post your soundcloud / choon / bandcamp :wink:

  • edited October 2018

    @senhorlampada exactly, I like to hear all the different approaches everyone takes. Soundcloud below

    https://soundcloud.com/messengerofsound

    *Don't know how to make it embedded in the post.

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