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RIFFER by Audiomodern - The EPIC Guide Tutorial for the iPad Version

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  • Love the update, @Audiomodern! Thank you!

  • Awesome update! Thanks!

  • Looks great. Time to dig-in..

    Thanks..

  • I love this app. It be great if @Audiomodern or another Dev made a generative chord app just like this to compliment...like Mixed in Keys delicious Captain Chord Suite.

  • @WillieNegus said:
    I love this app. It be great if @Audiomodern or another Dev made a generative chord app just like this to compliment...like Mixed in Keys delicious Captain Chord Suite.

    Yes! I had kinda hoped for polyphony in Riffer but a separate chord app would be sweet.

  • @lukesleepwalker said:

    @WillieNegus said:
    I love this app. It be great if @Audiomodern or another Dev made a generative chord app just like this to compliment...like Mixed in Keys delicious Captain Chord Suite.

    Yes! I had kinda hoped for polyphony in Riffer but a separate chord app would be sweet.

    Polyphony would work for me too.👍🏼

    Although I think a seperate chord app pretty much completes everything needed for full production considering their recent drum/sample Sequencer Playbeat.

    Riffer and this latest is amazing for now though.

    I find it hard to believe that with all of these great “Pro Tools” there are still those who consider iOS just a sketchpad. So not the case.

  • @WillieNegus said:

    @lukesleepwalker said:

    @WillieNegus said:
    I love this app. It be great if @Audiomodern or another Dev made a generative chord app just like this to compliment...like Mixed in Keys delicious Captain Chord Suite.

    Yes! I had kinda hoped for polyphony in Riffer but a separate chord app would be sweet.

    Polyphony would work for me too.👍🏼

    Although I think a seperate chord app pretty much completes everything needed for full production considering their recent drum/sample Sequencer Playbeat.

    Riffer and this latest is amazing for now though.

    I find it hard to believe that with all of these great “Pro Tools” there are still those who consider iOS just a sketchpad. So not the case.

    Not been riffing yet, but you make an encouraging case.....

  • The UI is pretty wonky right now on my iPhone but I haven’t tried the iPad version yet

  • Has the price always been the same? I can't see the price history in AppSliced

  • @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    Not been riffing yet, but you make an encouraging case.....

    Riff you must, if it is 👁 you trust.
    It’s Automatic.
    Nothing to lose, there’s just to gain
    Melody magic in every frame 😉.

  • @GovernorSilver said:
    Has the price always been the same? I can't see the price history in AppSliced

    Yes, they’ve been steady for prices - BUT - there is a bundle available which knocks off a couple bucks if you buy Riffer + Playbeat... highly recommended..

    https://apps.apple.com/app-bundle/audio-midi-randomizers/id1483021154

  • edited December 2019

    @WillieNegus said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    Not been riffing yet, but you make an encouraging case.....

    Riff you must, if it is 👁 you trust.
    It’s Automatic.
    Nothing to lose, there’s just to gain
    Melody magic in every frame 😉.

    The way that you tell
    this tale that's been told
    suggests the first gospels
    in days now thought old
    but the truth is that wisdom
    still gives to the giver
    as if those God guys
    also funked out on riffer.

    :)

  • All my presets are gone....

  • I'm probably just blind, but how do you set note lengths to anything other than one tick? AC little blue extension bars but they don't seem to do anything?

  • @Audiomodern said:

    @SpookyZoo said:
    @Audiomodern Does V2 now have midi file export in the iPad version?

    Unfortunately not all iOS versions, that Riffer can run to, support drag-and-drop so we may include this feature to a new update.

    Where is the shift option now ? It was under shuffle... Did you remove it ? Why ?

  • @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @WillieNegus said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    Not been riffing yet, but you make an encouraging case.....

    Riff you must, if it is 👁 you trust.
    It’s Automatic.
    Nothing to lose, there’s just to gain
    Melody magic in every frame 😉.

    The way that you tell
    this tale that's been told
    suggests the first gospels
    in days now thought old
    but the truth is that wisdom
    still gives to the giver
    as if those God guys
    also funked out on riffer.

    :)

    A-man🙏🏼

  • @royor said:

    @GovernorSilver said:
    Has the price always been the same? I can't see the price history in AppSliced

    Yes, they’ve been steady for prices - BUT - there is a bundle available which knocks off a couple bucks if you buy Riffer + Playbeat... highly recommended..

    https://apps.apple.com/app-bundle/audio-midi-randomizers/id1483021154

    Ok, that explains why there's no price history.

    Thanks for the heads up about the bundle. buying now.

  • @inakarmacoma said:
    I'm probably just blind, but how do you set note lengths to anything other than one tick? AC little blue extension bars but they don't seem to do anything?

    -Make sure the tie notes button is on (lower right side)
    -Click on the next square beside the note you wish to extend and it will automagically tie them together. The square needs to be active (black) not paused (grey) before it will tie together. If it’s grey, just tap it a second time to change it to black. Continue until you’ve got the right note length.

    There is also the sustain notes button below the tie notes button. It seems to tie active notes to paused notes. Different effect but it does lengthen notes too. The button has been renamed (was sustain paused) but I think it still functions as described here:
    This screenshot is from the manual for Version 1 of Riffer.

  • Fantastic update. Thank you for and congrats on the release @Audiomodern.

    @Audiomodern said:

    @SpookyZoo said:
    @Audiomodern Does V2 now have midi file export in the iPad version?

    Unfortunately not all iOS versions, that Riffer can run to, support drag-and-drop so we may include this feature to a new update.

    I'd love to see this as well. Perhaps exporting all of the saved presets as a single, linear MIDI file would work for most folks? Would work for me anyway. :)

  • In case anyone missed it.. Doug did an updated video..

    Riffer - The Creative Midi Sequencer - Epic Update - iPad Live Tutorial

  • @Audiomodern when you load riffer in an AU pane, should there be that “save” block at the top center? When I go full screen it’s still there. After clicking it goes to the actual full interface. Does it in apeMatrix too. Is that what it’s supposed to do?

    Also, after you’ve made some presets in riffer and/or playbeat, can the presets be played back sequentially as in a song mode? Or, only by clicking each preset manually?

  • Great update and a must-have app. I found a great use for it on semi free form bass lines for my modal doodlings. A missing piece in a musical jigsaw. Thanks devs!

  • Yeah!!! I just thought of that too! Was applying it to a bass preset and wow! Pretty awesome!

    @ajmiller said:
    Great update and a must-have app. I found a great use for it on semi free form bass lines for my modal doodlings. A missing piece in a musical jigsaw. Thanks devs!

  • Beware that the new version of Riffer has changed AU type and as such will not load in old projects in AUM.

    I've used the previous versions in a few projects and relied on AUM state saving instead of saving presets in Riffer. All that is now gone since you have to replace any instance in older AUM projects with this version.

  • @lasselu said:
    Beware that the new version of Riffer has changed AU type and as such will not load in old projects in AUM.

    I've used the previous versions in a few projects and relied on AUM state saving instead of saving presets in Riffer. All that is now gone since you have to replace any instance in older AUM projects with this version.

    Ouch. Sorry to hear that.

  • Hey... any of you Mozaic wizards wanna whip out something that would take a chord in one midi channel and individual notes in another channel an transpose input notes to closest note in the input chord? Could make this thing a bit more musical.

    As it is, it sounds like a cat on crack jumping on my keyboard controller.

  • edited January 2020

    @MonkeyDrummer said:
    Hey... any of you Mozaic wizards wanna whip out something that would take a chord in one midi channel and individual notes in another channel an transpose input notes to closest note in the input chord? Could make this thing a bit more musical.

    As it is, it sounds like a cat on crack jumping on my keyboard controller.

    Wow! Great idea man! Great idea!

    I think it’s already musical (just play around with the settings a bit otherwise it can get wild :)). But making it polyphonic would be cool indeed

  • I gotta say.. Riffer is pretty underwhelming... it’s got a nice interface, but in terms of generating or editing generative or semi generative sequences, Poly2 or Autony blow it away...

  • edited January 2020

    @MonkeyDrummer I haven't played with Poly2 much at all but I don't know how Autony is better at editing generative than Riffer? Seems pretty comparable in many ways (except that you have more fine-grained control over steps in Riffer)?

    The thing about Riffer that has me scratching my head a little is that when I first started using it, it could predictably deliver a very musical riff just about every time. Since the last big update, I have had much less luck getting those riffs that feel more musical than the other options. I hope they didn't tweak the algorithm!

  • @MonkeyDrummer said:
    I gotta say.. Riffer is pretty underwhelming... it’s got a nice interface, but in terms of generating or editing generative or semi generative sequences, Poly2 or Autony blow it away...

    Autony, which I love, is good for 8-24 steps of melody and really to my taste only up to 16. Longer sequences tend to bend to extremes of the scale. There are other things like not having ties and rests that also make it not always the best option.

    It's a great tool. I like using Autony in a short 4 bar sequence with each step being a bar long to drive a StepPolyArp pattern. Or piping it through its sister app Cality or Ioniarics.

    Poly2 is great as well and has too many options to really detail fairly. Suffice it to say for immediacy and clarity, visual and audible, I prefer Riffer. It's great for ad hoc solos longer melody lines stepping through presets, quickly adjusting notes and timing.

    Horses for courses, and YMMV

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