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Two iOS devices? How do you use them together?

Some of you have multiple iPads and/or iPhones. How do you use them together for music making? I know Ableton Link makes syncing them easy. But what about audio/midi hookups? I’ll start:

  • I have an all-but-useless 1st-gen iPad mini that I use exclusively for Audiobus remote.

  • I’m thinking about using an old Line 6 Sonic Port to take an audio out from my iPad, so I can use it as a dedicated synth. I would run its audio into a USB mixer/interface connected to another iPad (I don’t actually have another iPad yet though!)

Comments

  • I’m hoping Audiobus Remote updates are really gonna open up a 2 device setup in the future.

  • I use my ica4+ when I want to use 2 devices together. Just pipe all the audio from 1 device into another.

  • I have:

    • iPhone 4 as filevault (nanostudio, impaktor...) and also suitable for loopyhd. With old irig midi and maybe I will buy once again an irig cable (the one for guitar to headphone jack). I have also a impedance adaptor (small cable) to plug a mic. Cable madness but the day I decide to keep it as is I will fix all inside a box.
    • iPad mini4. Focusrite iTrack dock for mobile recording (with flightcase). Recently discover IDAM/airdrop to use it in junction with Live (for BlocsWave). Also using it for garageband export and finishing my mobile recordings in the desktop.
    • iPhone 5s. I have cck3, hub and some controllers/audio interfaces to use with it... but I don’t use none of these really... maybe the day I buy next smartphone (probably an used iPhone SE) it will become an standalone whatever (looper, sampler... IDK)
    • Mac mini. Used as explain above and for create advertisings for my workshops etc.

    That’s it.

  • I currently have a 12.9 pro 2017 and Air 2, and iphone SE.

    I usually use my Air 2 as a midi controller for my 12.9 and don't often have the need to have the audio from both as the 12.9 can handle enough usually. But If I do then I can use my ICA4.

    The iphone too is best used as a midi controller in my setup :)
    I would still think that your first gen mini would still be useful as a midi controller, not just AB remote.

  • The iConnctivity audio interfaces are the most versatile and cable efficient solution.
    (routing audio and midi between the devices)
    Additional bonus: they can record audio output of ANY app by duplicating system output to an arbitrary record channel.

  • edited October 2018

    Usually use with iCA4+ To host different apps that I control with MIDI and track to one device in BM3.

    Used to use with Audiobus Remote, which in its glory day was amazing. However Audiobus Remote is in a very bad state these days and barely usable right now. I’m hoping for an update to get it back with the times — it was really the best part of Audiobus for me!

  • Too many options to list them all.
    I'd either use the iPad Mini as an effects processor, to generate sound and send MIDI clock, or to sequence sound generators on the other iPad.
    On the iPad Mini 1 you could attach a MIDI interface and use Sugar Bytes Effectrix as a beat-synced FX processor, Genome MIDI, Cubasis, Stroke Machine, GarageBand, Oscilab etc.
    The faster iPad would be the host for synths and/or DAWs like GR-16 and Gadget, both can either follow MIDI clock or respond to notes on MIDI channels 1-16 coming from the iPad Mini.
    Older apps usually are coded more efficiently and run better on the Mini 1.

  • @gonekrazy3000 said:
    I use my ica4+ when I want to use 2 devices together. Just pipe all the audio from 1 device into another.

    That looks excellent. I didn’t know such a thing existed.

    @Carnbot said:
    I would still think that your first gen mini would still be useful as a midi controller, not just AB remote.

    Are there any examples of using it as a MIDI controller? Currently I route midi between apps using Audiobus or AUM. I do the same with any connected MIDI devices — a keystep, usually.

  • @mistercharlie said:

    @gonekrazy3000 said:
    I use my ica4+ when I want to use 2 devices together. Just pipe all the audio from 1 device into another.

    That looks excellent. I didn’t know such a thing existed.

    @Carnbot said:
    I would still think that your first gen mini would still be useful as a midi controller, not just AB remote.

    Are there any examples of using it as a MIDI controller? Currently I route midi between apps using Audiobus or AUM. I do the same with any connected MIDI devices — a keystep, usually.

    It should run most sequencers ok, Quantum and Modstep for example. Or Gestrument set-up to control your primary audio device. No idea though as I've never owned a first gen mini. Apps like TC-data are great on a secondary device too.

  • Are there various versions of ica4+ floating around? I saw a lightening version on amazon. There is one for sale locally for $110 which doesn't mention it.

    https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/msg/d/iconnectmidi4-midi-interface/6721151992.html

    is this what you guys have?

  • edited October 2018

    A> @Crawlingwind said:

    Are there various versions of ica4+ floating around? I saw a lightening version on amazon. There is one for sale locally for $110 which doesn't mention it.

    You are looking at the icM4+. (MIDI only)
    It is a different unit, with no mic/line inputs but I think it can do the audio sharing between iOS devices also.

  • Im not necessarily looking for things that will run on my old iPad. I’m more interested in how you put together your multiple devices.

  • Thanks! I knew they looked different, but couldn't really tell from that pic.

    @Hmtx said:
    A> @Crawlingwind said:

    Are there various versions of ica4+ floating around? I saw a lightening version on amazon. There is one for sale locally for $110 which doesn't mention it.

    You are looking at the icM4+. (MIDI only)
    It is a different unit, with no mic/line inputs but I think it can do the audio sharing between iOS devices also.

  • edited October 2018

    @rs2000 said:
    Too many options to list them all.
    I'd either use the iPad Mini as an effects processor, to generate sound and send MIDI clock, or to sequence sound generators on the other iPad.
    On the iPad Mini 1 you could attach a MIDI interface and use Sugar Bytes Effectrix as a beat-synced FX processor, Genome MIDI, Cubasis, Stroke Machine, GarageBand, Oscilab etc.
    The faster iPad would be the host for synths and/or DAWs like GR-16 and Gadget, both can either follow MIDI clock or respond to notes on MIDI channels 1-16 coming from the iPad Mini.
    Older apps usually are coded more efficiently and run better on the Mini 1.

    Yes, I like the arrangement of one screen for synths/instruments, one for effects.

    I also like the other arrangement, one is used to sequence midi and play a synth on the other screen. Either a full sequencer, or an arp, like StepPolyArp, or a chord player, like chordpolypad.

  • I’ve used the iCA4+ before but really only as a test. I’ve never had a need to use two iPads, or any desire to create a reason to do so. The iCA4+ was great though, I was able to sync everything and get one source of audio into both iPads while at the same time having one device to get one output from both devices.

  • edited October 2018

    @mistercharlie said:
    Im not necessarily looking for things that will run on my old iPad. I’m more interested in how you put together your multiple devices.

    If you’re jut connecting two iOS devices try the Apollo midi controller app, I use it all the time between my iPhone and ipad. Obviously this app is midi only. Secret base designs (the dev) apps just work, no fancy ui and the footprints are small, focus seems to be on solid coding, which is probably why the apps haven’t been upgraded. As far as bringing the audio together, the same dev does a WiFi audio injector, haven’t tried that, as I just take an audio feed from the headphone jack and input it feed it into my zoom interface. I suppose I could also use the midi interface on the zoom to connect my iOS devices, but that’s just more cable junk.

    Like yourself I am curious as to the hardware/ apps folks use to connect up their iOS devices without using a pc/ Mac midi router. I thought just a powered usb hub like the Aukey Hub would do the midi/ audio routing job...but I don’t think it would, can anyone else help on hardware/ app connectivity to allow midi/ audio routing between iOS devices, either with cable or Bluetooth?

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