Rozeta Chords

jolico

I haven’t figured out how to make Rozeta generate chords from a midi input. Can it do this? It would be great for us “one-finger” producers who air quote with four fingers

stemshade

Cells does that. Just arm a cel and play a chord, even using the onscreen keyboard

MonkeyDrummer

@jolico said:
I haven’t figured out how to make Rozeta generate chords from a midi input. Can it do this? It would be great for us “one-finger” producers who air quote with four fingers

Do you mean you play a root and an app forms an "appropriate" chord? There's not much in the way of Automagic apps like some VST's (Cthulhu, or my personal favorite ToneSpace (god I wish there was an app on ios like ToneSpace).

But there are some good apps that let you assign chords to a trigger note. Look at the amazing Suggester, ChordPolyPad, and NaviChord are great apps.

Navichord is my fav for "playing" as you can set it up so midi on a set channel gets routed through navichord and is transposed to "legal" notes based on the chord being played. And of course the chord can be triggered via another midi channel.

Cells is really just a basic chord sequencer you record chords into.

jolico

@vpich said:
Cells does that. Just arm a cel and play a chord, even using the onscreen keyboard

@MonkeyDrummer said:

@jolico said:
I haven’t figured out how to make Rozeta generate chords from a midi input. Can it do this? It would be great for us “one-finger” producers who air quote with four fingers

Do you mean you play a root and an app forms an "appropriate" chord? There's not much in the way of Automagic apps like some VST's (Cthulhu, or my personal favorite ToneSpace (god I wish there was an app on ios like ToneSpace).

But there are some good apps that let you assign chords to a trigger note. Look at the amazing Suggester, ChordPolyPad, and NaviChord are great apps.

Navichord is my fav for "playing" as you can set it up so midi on a set channel gets routed through navichord and is transposed to "legal" notes based on the chord being played. And of course the chord can be triggered via another midi channel.

Cells is really just a basic chord sequencer you record chords into.

Thanks for the suggestions.
Until now, I was using multiple instances of Rozeta Scaler with different transpose settings

sdesign

@jolico said:

@vpich said:
Cells does that. Just arm a cel and play a chord, even using the onscreen keyboard

@MonkeyDrummer said:

@jolico said:
I haven’t figured out how to make Rozeta generate chords from a midi input. Can it do this? It would be great for us “one-finger” producers who air quote with four fingers

Do you mean you play a root and an app forms an "appropriate" chord? There's not much in the way of Automagic apps like some VST's (Cthulhu, or my personal favorite ToneSpace (god I wish there was an app on ios like ToneSpace).

But there are some good apps that let you assign chords to a trigger note. Look at the amazing Suggester, ChordPolyPad, and NaviChord are great apps.

Navichord is my fav for "playing" as you can set it up so midi on a set channel gets routed through navichord and is transposed to "legal" notes based on the chord being played. And of course the chord can be triggered via another midi channel.

Cells is really just a basic chord sequencer you record chords into.

Thanks for the suggestions.
Until now, I was using multiple instances of Rozeta Scaler with different transpose settings

Genius

BiancaNeve

Changeling

https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/changeling-sequencer/id506664262?mt=8

MonkeyDrummer

@BiancaNeve said:
Changeling

https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/changeling-sequencer/id506664262?mt=8

It's not bad, but the UI is headbangingly obtuse, and I've found often it's not sending good midi. Lots of missing/out-of-order note offs just cause havoc with multi synth setups.

It's yet another, "so damn close!" apps...

Carnbot

Best way I've found with AU is Rozeta bassline to chordbud or you can use Streambyter to convert to chords.

Will

I've never tried it but seems like we should be able to fill Cells with any number of chord shapes and then use transpose on the input (or via some secondary AU) to get pretty much any chord out of it. Would be hard to recall which cell represents which shape without labels but orta work.

Carnbot

You can also set up Step Poly Arp AU with chords in different ways and then trigger via Rozeta

stemshade

Or just download a page with frequently used chords and plug them into cells. The added benefit is you can learn them.

jolico

The problem with Cell is that I can’t program complicated chords, the iPhone‘s onscreen keyboard is too small and I don’t have a hardware controller keyboard.

Maybe if I feed it a chord from another sequencer? But then I still wouldn’t be able to adjust individual notes of the cell if needed.

For now, I’ll stick to multiple instances of Rozeta Scaler, but that isn’t exactly as convenient as plugging in a single midi unit that doesn’t mind playing “illegal” chords.

It would also be good to send the output notes into a midi plugin that randomizes the velocity of each note limited to 10% higher/lower.
It would be awesome if the chord programmer and velocity randomizer were in a single unit.
Why does this not exist already?
First world problems.

Carnbot

I've been doing this randomisation with Streambyter.

Rozeta bassline into Chordbud into Streambyter.with Streambyter humanising the velocity and timing. But yeah. I'm sure we'll get another option at some point. Works pretty well though until then

Will

@jolico said:
The problem with Cell is that I can’t program complicated chords, the iPhone‘s onscreen keyboard is too small and I don’t have a hardware controller keyboard.

Somehow doubt this will work but maybe worth a shot: if you turn on 'HOLD' in on AUM's keyboard and build the chord you want (can scroll and add/remove notes) and then record the cell in Cells, does it use all held notes? I'm thinking Cells might only respond to new 'note on' messages but there's a chance...

DMan

@syrupcore said:

@jolico said:
The problem with Cell is that I can’t program complicated chords, the iPhone‘s onscreen keyboard is too small and I don’t have a hardware controller keyboard.

Somehow doubt this will work but maybe worth a shot: if you turn on 'HOLD' in on AUM's keyboard and build the chord you want (can scroll and add/remove notes) and then record the cell in Cells, does it use all held notes? I'm thinking Cells might only respond to new 'note on' messages but there's a chance...

I don’t know about that, but I’ve just been holding the last note before entering the new note, so you can scroll around a bit and keep adding new notes to that “Cell” without having to hold all the notes at once. I prefer just having a keyboard, but really Cells is one thing I can do if I don’t have a keyboard.

brambos

@DMan said:

@syrupcore said:

@jolico said:
The problem with Cell is that I can’t program complicated chords, the iPhone‘s onscreen keyboard is too small and I don’t have a hardware controller keyboard.

Somehow doubt this will work but maybe worth a shot: if you turn on 'HOLD' in on AUM's keyboard and build the chord you want (can scroll and add/remove notes) and then record the cell in Cells, does it use all held notes? I'm thinking Cells might only respond to new 'note on' messages but there's a chance...

I don’t know about that, but I’ve just been holding the last note before entering the new note, so you can scroll around a bit and keep adding new notes to that “Cell” without having to hold all the notes at once. I prefer just having a keyboard, but really Cells is one thing I can do if I don’t have a keyboard.

Yes, all those things work. Cells won't progress to the next cell until all keys have been released. So you can slowly build up your chord as long as you hold at least one key.

ka010

I've been working on a MIDI plugin that comes with a chord layout, only does the basic I-VII chords for now but I'm open to adding more elaborate ones.

Beta is available, if anyone wants to give it a try just let me know.