Most simple and reliable solution for wireless midi

dan151

Hi, i'm looking for the most simple and reliable solution for midi over wifi, Could you please help? I've searched the forums and see alot of applications that do this, but am not sure what works best and would rather skip any trial and error or troubleshooting phase. I want to find something that i can set up once, and then forget about it and just keep it set up and working at all times (or at most have 2-3 simple button presses to re-activate it when i want to use it.)

I mainly want to be able to use it to send midi from ipad to mac. Would also be cool to send midi from ios to ios device. I want it to be able to send midi from whatever applications on ipad easily without much reconfiguring for each. Can be over wifi or bluetooth, whatever is better.

So far, some potential solutions ive found for this are:

• Use iconnectivity 4+ ethernet port connected to router

• midiflow
  -midifire
  -apollo midi

Also, does anyone have advice for most simple and reliable solution for sending midi back and forth between PC and Mac with a wired connection? So far, the best solutions ive found for this are

-Use a iconnectivity midi interface, seems to work well but is costly and is extra hardware

-Use CopperLan, which is free but doesn't seem to be actively developed and not sure if its worth trying

jayfehr

Midi designer

espiegel123

For wifi between iOS devices, all you have to do is choose Network Session as your MIDI in or output. You don't need any special apps to set it up.

Many MIDI apps also directly support MIDI over Bluetooth. You would only need something like midifire, etc if you have apps that don't support Bluetooth MIDI.

I believe that the Mac's audio/midi setup also supports wifi midi network sessions.

vitocorleone123

Install the free rtpMIDI app on your Windows PC for MIDI over wifi. Hmm. I've never tried doing MIDI from my macbook pro to the PC or vice versa. But now I'm wondering about using the 2015 MBP as outboard effects or something (just need the audio cable connection).

EDIT: Hmm. No clock sync if I go with the TOSLINK mini out through a converter to my 6i6 SPDIF in. Sucks. Might still be worth an experiment and just treat it as "analog" in terms of not being syncd. You'd think it'd still be better to transfer audio at higher bit/clock rates than via the headphone port

EDIT 2: I got MIDI going over wifi from my PC to Mac (haven't tried the other way but I assume it'll work), so am going to take the plunge and try a $25 experiment with the whole mini-toslink to toslink cable > converter > SPIDIF coax in on the 6i6. The CPU/RAM/Motherboard of my PC is 6+ years, so I'm looking for cheap ways to stretch it, and music is what pushes it the most these days for me, so offloading something, anything, can help - so long as I can stitch the audio streams back together in a usable way.

rs2000

An old but still relevant article from SoundOnSound (you might want to replace MidiBridge with MidiFire):
https://www.soundonsound.com/techniques/wireless-midi

wim

@espiegel123 said:
For wifi between iOS devices, all you have to do is choose Network Session as your MIDI in or output. You don't need any special apps to set it up.

Many MIDI apps also directly support MIDI over Bluetooth. You would only need something like midifire, etc if you have apps that don't support Bluetooth MIDI.

I believe that the Mac's audio/midi setup also supports wifi midi network sessions.

Network session doesn’t work for all apps, only those that support it. (In many apps it shows up as a midi destination, but doesn’t actually work.) You can work around this with MidiFire or MidiDesigner Pro. But I’ve found that midi over wifi is unsteady no matter how clean the wifi connection. Wired or Bluetooth are all that work for me. Ymmv.

wim

I use Apollo midi for Bluetooth midi between devices. It is easy to set up and stable. For midi to the PC I use MidiMux and a USB connection. You have to install the StudioMux server on your PC. This (almost always) works flawlessly. StudioMux can do audio in addition to midi, but I’ve seen many, many posts about people giving up after too many problems with audio, so I’ve never tried it.

I’ve been interested in trying midi over Ethernet, but haven’t invested in USB/Ethernet adapter, since I have other working options.

(BTW, I believe bluetooth midi between devices is meant to be a feature of AB3 once @Michael gets around to making it work. Nudge, nudge ... )

Rodolfo

I believe that Network Session is all that you need.
Ther’s a very good utility to manage MIDI Network connections
MIDI Network by Oscar Bouwmans
https://itunes.apple.com/ar/app/midi-network/id1102428729?l=en&mt=8

vitocorleone123

@Rodolfo said:
I believe that Network Session is all that you need.
Ther’s a very good utility to manage MIDI Network connections
MIDI Network by Oscar Bouwmans
https://itunes.apple.com/ar/app/midi-network/id1102428729?l=en&mt=8

Hadn't seen that one - thanks!