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@Panthemusicalgoat
Considering Bluetooth MIDI latency is usually between 18-22ms on iOS devices, <16ms delay for wireless audio seems very usable to me, especially for around $125. That’s comparable to wireless monitor systems that start in the $500+ range. I can work with that level of latency comfortably, so can my budget ;-)
They have a battle DJ in the demo videos using the system without having to adjust for the latency, so I can imagine keyboard players and guitarists could find this suitable. And again, professional grade wireless monitor systems have comparable latency. We’re talking about less than 0.016 seconds here...it’s faster than Bluetooth MIDI, which is adequate for keyboard playing and finger drumming.
I’ve tried three different portable FM transmitters to sample into an OP-1, using its internal FM receiver...there is always significant latency, like multiple syllables off when sampling dialogue. Range and clarity are also an issue with FM, those transmitters are very susceptible to electrical and environmental interference. Even when used inside a vehicle as they were designed for (playing a Walkman/Discman/mp3 player through the economy car radio) they occasionally need to scan among a range of frequencies to sound clearer. The car AC/heater causes static on most of those devices.
There isn’t a reasonably priced consumer option I’m aware of that looks as good or better than that KickStarter right now.
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I’m sorry but I consider 16 ms it’s not enough for an acceptable playing experience. Anything above 5~6 ms for playing piano sounds is absolutely useless. This is equivalent to a 256 buffer size at 44 KHz in any DAW (5.82 ms). It can be suitable for playing slow pad sounds or for “finger drumming” where you can partially compensate latency in each hit once you get used to it, but playing piano is a whole different story, you need to “feel” your instrument to be able to really express yourself while playing. And for electric guitar it’s even worse, anything above 3 ms is not tolerable for any serious guitar player (128 buffer size at 44 KHz, equivalent to 2.9 ms).
No it isn’t, what a DAW reports and what you are experiencing is very different, the DAW reports audio buffer it can see, most audio device developers have hidden buffers they do not report, also the MIDI input adds latency and the D/A adds latency, plus the air gap between yourself and the speaker, 16ms isn’t terrible at all for headphones, if it is a true 16ms, it isn’t great either, but reported bufffers in DAWs are nearly always nonsense, do a roundtrip test.
@3sleeves it’s maybe ok for playing loops and fx and dj style but not for live instruments.
Plus the 16msec delay (~4.8 meters distance from the sound source ) is added to the current latency of the setup.
@Rodolfo @Korakios
I’m definitely not a professional recording artist, but as a longtime hobbyist and dad with a tight budget, I’m not aware of something similar with better specs in that price range.
I personally don’t mind playing and recording on the iPad with Bluetooth MIDI, using either the nanoKey Studio or a Yamaha BT-01 with a Boss DR-670, whether playing keys (not just pads and sweeps) or tapping out live drum patterns (one shot sounds, not quantized, not just prerecorded loops) in various DAW setups.
If Bluetooth MIDI has a latency of 18-22ms (plus whatever inherent latency the software signal processing/routing adds) then I guess I’m too slow to mind, which may be true because I do make some pretty mellow music ;-) 75 to 95 bpm is my comfort zone.
“Feeling” the instrument and really expressing yourself aren’t exclusively professional things, that’s just silly talk...maybe for professional guitar players that is unacceptable latency though, I’m clearly not on that level.
If you know of something like that system but lower latency and comparably priced please share a link, this is a very frustrating electronic consumer demographic to be in and every bit of new information is helpful.
Since that Kickstarter was unsuccessful it would be useful to know if something comparable or better is available that has been overlooked in this thread.
It’s an interesting topic in general, glad this thread exists.
Oh, nice to see some serious participation
I guess that indeed if someone wants to have a workable, affordable, as-low-latency as possible solution right now, the Chinese car FM transmitter and FM headphones are indeed the way to go 