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Aside from the MIDI resolution just doing fine adjustments of audio regions on the timeline is very coarse with Cubasis. Turn snapping off and try to align a beat, it’s a very long way from being sample accurate, like there’s still an invisible grid you have to align to.
That invisible grid is probably those 48 PPQN
It jumps between 12 steps between each 16th, which gives you the 48 PPQN MIDI Resolution, PPQN doesn't really have anything to do with audio, but maybe a global restriction on the parts in the arrange window.
Set the time display to be Time instead of Beats...open an audio track in the audio editor, you can now be far more precise with the audio timing.
By freezing audio to add silence at the start if you want to push the timing back, and then trimming (to pull the timing forwards) in the audio editor, you can be pretty precise, admittedly a lot more fiddly than doing it direct on the timeline.
TBH it seems to be a silly restriction in this day and age. Personally I'm always chopping, editing, and moving audio in the timeline, and this is a much nicer experience in Auria than it is in Cubasis. I'm currently doing a project in Cubasis and I find the audio editing (and working in the timeline generally) a bit of a pain.
I do really like the synth in Cubasis though, that is actually pretty underrated, and the recent Roli integration is awesome.
Could be but the 'editing resolution' can strangely enough be increased a bit by changing the ruler mode from bars/beats to time by tapping on the time-window left of the transport controls. It gives finer resolution than just turning the grid off.
What bugs me more in Cubasis is the lack of more grid-options, me want my triplet-grids like too long ago...
Auria. I'm seduced by Cubasis from time to time because it's sleeker, but I never finish anything in it and always go back to Auria.
CUBASIS all the way! So easy and so much FUN to use. Plus, it is so beautiful.
Anything that is too complicated, resource-hungry and needs workarounds retards my technique
I’ve seen many Cubasis vs AP threads but never as many votes for AP
Got both (oddly, I have both Auria and Auria Pro as separate purchases) (and Cubasis was the upgrade from the unlocked Cubasis LE by plugging my Irig HD guitar thingy in, then IAPing it). However, I’ve yet to sit down and do anything substantial with either. I tend to run back to Logic Pro X on my Macs. I just know it far better.
I imported a Salamander C5 (sf2 converted to ESX24 on my Mac) into the @VirSyn AudioLayer and use that when I want a piano in AUv3 format. It never crashes and I switched from the big DAW's over to AUM to use less resource and save my setups.
I end up with a setup file and an audio result file with matching names. That helps when I want to know how I made something a few weeks later.
When I start to care a lot more about quality I might go back to the control of a DAW for mixing/mastering.
It’s 1000 times that number actually (960,000 PPQN). See the answer of the dev in their forum:
http://auriaapp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14497
Cubasis for simplicity and because I enjoy the interface. I own Auria and Auria Pro (but none of the FabFilter plug-ins except the AUv3), but feel I can do everything well enough in Cubasis. I find Auria too fiddly and if interested in separating out that mixing/mastering functionality, would probably return to desktop rather than endure the frustration I feel working in it. I'd concede that Auria has more pro features, but I'm content with the other tools I have at this time.
Auria is my one stop shop. I get annoyed if I don't have all tools at my disposal in one place and Auria gets pretty close to Logic in that regard. These days it's mostly pretty stable and midi is working much better than before too.
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For this alone Auria!
Besides I like Auria UI more than Cubasis
I didn't like the UI much actually before but since I upgraded to 12.9, I must admit it looks rather professional and I like it better than cubasis now.
Cubasis or KORG Gadget etc. for creation and fun
Auria Pro is currently the best for mixing because of the PSP and FabFilter plugins plus AUv3 support
The answer is have "BOTH"
I had an interesting time trying to record a beat into Cubasis....
I set up Soft Drummer as an IAA, armed and recorded the track. During recording the MIDI timing was completely out, like playing with a drunken drummer. Obviously there are some serious issues with the Cubasis MIDI clock.
So then I tried to fix the recorded WAV on the timeline. Turned snapping off, set the clock to min/sec rather than bars/beats, double-tapped the audio region to enter the audio editor, and there is still this bizarre invisible grid. You simply cannot do sample accurate editing in this app.
So basically: crap MIDI clock and even worse audio editing. This DAW isn't ready for even recording a simple beat, not if you want it in time anyway.
So IMO it's not just the advanced features that Cubasis is lacking, but actually just the very basics. And you still can't even crossfade two audio regions (to get rid of pops and glitches for example). Beyond very basic MIDI stuff this app just isn't up to it.
Auria Pro is really the only option for mixing, however Modstep+AUM does offer a compelling if highly different alternative, if a project is MIDI heavy. You could swap in another MIDI sequencer in place of Modstep, but I like that one.
I’m working this way in my current project with the audio finally hitting Harrison Mixbus’s console emulation DSP for a mixing/mastering stage, however I’m convinced that you’d be able to print out a production ready track directly in AUM with a bit of creative AUM file player setup and some smart bussing (especially once Pro C2 hits AU). It’s the only non-Auria workflow that I can imagine giving enough flexibility to really do what I want with a mix.
Obviously not ideal for audio editing but if you just need to drop a take in it’s ok.
Which one of the two apps, offers scale/key mode on the keyboard, that I can use directly with me midi keyboard ?
Zenbeats offers scale and key selection that i can use with my midi keyboard
Yeah but I have the whole suite of Fabfilter plugins too in Cubasis .. and I can use them in Auria Pro, Garage Band, AUM, etc., $99.00 on the AppStore and well worth it. Cubasis is just an easier workflow for me personally (I compose solely instrumentals .. no vocals at all), but I play around with Auria Pro too once in a while .. Auria Pro definitely is a killer program. To the original poster I say get both 😜
CUBASIS for midi and Auria for audio. If you want to do some midi sequencing Auria is broken in that aspect. But the audio editing is fantastic. I love Cubasis and have used it from the get go but it’s been acting pretty funny lately. IPad Pro 11” iOS 12.4.
Neither. You’d have to do the scale transposition before the midi hits the app. For instance, you could hook your keyboard up to Audiobus or AUM with something like Rozeta Scales, or one of the Mozaic scripts mentioned in earlier topics, then out to Cubasis or Auria Pro.
Broken? While some like Cubasis’ MIDI editing more than AP’s. I don’t think AP’s could be considered broken. I personally find that while it takes some getting used to AP’s piano roll gestures, it’s non-destructive quantize and humanize is quite useful and makes up for the clunkiness of the editor. (Xequence and NanoStudio are the apps to beat for MIDI editing, IMO).
I find Cubasis’ limited timing resolution and somewhat irregular clock to be enough of a shortcoming that I no longer use it.
Got it!
So you set an audio track, then selected IAA and softdrummer right? I don’t see softdrummer when I set a midi track and select IAA .. only audio track then IAA. Anyway I just tried it .. the tricky part for me was starting softdrummer manually against the Cubasis metronome .. but once I started it right on time with the metronome click it continued to follow the metronome click for the whole three and a half minutes of the song, I then added an iBassist track doing the same procedure and both are in the pocket ..... but yeah Cubasis clock and resolution needs a serious upgrade. Some days the clock seems fine and others it’s frustrating .. but I have little workarounds here and there. If I’m going to get serious I just run Reaper DAW on my desktop and control everything on the iPad via the Jump Desktop app .. only running into the studio to play the initial riffs on one of my hardware synths or digital piano. BTW my iPad is a 1st generation 12.9 Pro running IOS 12.3.1.
Auria. Cubasis is good but I work more with audio files and do most of my midi stuff in AUM when I need it
@espiegel123 The reason that I am saying broken is from my experience, back to it after giving up numerous times, research on Auria blogs and the simple fact that midi sync plain and simply doesn’t work properly. It’s been a pain. I want to love it but the midi wonkiness hinders me from using it in regards to sequencing stuff. I use it for audio all the time. And honestly Cubasis for me it just to send data, sequence stuff, and that’s pretty much it. It’s ios music creation. I bounce stuff all over the place but in way of editing midi, it’s super quick and stable for me. AUM is an integral part of my workflow also. So many different avenues with iOS music creation. That’s why I dig it. If I could only choose one host between, Auria and Cubasis, for me it’d be Cubasis hands down. I mean it’s really nothing more than a preference. If someone enjoys Auria’s midi capability awesome.
It's been pretty well said here, but I've always looked at Auria Pro as the AUDIO DAW, like ProTools, which in turn evolved from the multi-track tape machine/mixer paradigm. It's very good for "analog" type recording, i.e. using mic's, acoustic instruments, vocals and making verse/chorus song arrangements.
Cubasis is more the MIDI/SEQUENCER DAW, like it's big brother Cubase, which is full of MIDI friendly features and easy to sync with AUv3 apps and even outboard hardware. Producers of digital music genres like dance, hip-hop, etc. who use sampling, loops and cut & paste arrangements benefit from Cubasis' ease of use.
Now I'm not saying you can't make electric guitar pop/rock songs on Cubasis, because you can. Same with Auria, you can make electronic music & synth jams with it as well. It's just the two DAW's have feature & layout differences that makes it easier to create some styles than others.
Auria used to have the mastering edge because the FabFilter plug-in's were exclusive to Auria. Now that they are AUv3's for sale in the App Store it has leveled that playing field. MIDI has never been Auria's strong suit, but it's absolutely possible to make heavy use of MIDI on the app, there's a learning curve however.
To me it's never been either/or, I use both for different things and I will sometimes begin a track on say Cubasis and then finish it on Auria, and vice versa. Guitarist's know that sometimes picking up a new guitar or another you're not playing all the time will inspire a new riff, song or extended jam. It's the same with DAW's; if you're using Auria all the time but then switch to Cubasis (or BeatMaker 3, GarageBand, etc) it can spark off a new bit or a new song. I will switch up like that especially if I'm just messing around improvising a track.
Bottom line: Get both.
Good explanations @Morgman73 and @JRSIV I agree, get both they are great.
Personally I mostly use AUM to do everything, then because Im mostly midi sequencing, I choose Cubasis but if I mix/master I get out AP with the visual help from FabFilter's plugins.
Great, useful comments here. Ace!